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Title: Spent a week in ARMM areas of Mindanao and saw things that will make you SICK !
Post by: dylanaz on April 20, 2010, 03:07:40 PM
The week I just spent in the ARMM region of Mindanao will make some of us literally SICK !

There is just no way to explain it at this internet cafe right now - so when I get back to NCR/Manila I will TRY to make a brief post... I think it cant be brief so I will just cover 2 issues I experienced FIRST HAND !

Im still alive and havent been beheadded ... so thats good...

The reat - you will have to stay tuned for ... 1 or 2 days is my guess... Its imporrible to use a CAFE in the ARMM region because even their own MSU (Mindanao State University) in a 98% Muslim city only has cafes around with 256k internet !

MY iPHONE GETS FASTER INTERNET THAN THAT !

Stay tuned.... and grab a barf-bag... you will be sick.... Im sick right now just thinking about it....

This will NOT be my lecture about religion - I will simply report what I witnessed and experienced first hand in the ARMM region... places \'foreigners\' are rarely seen - deep in the mountains...

I counted at least 6 military checkpoints just to get to the place.... maybe more...

YOU WILL BE SICK.... so if I die before getting back to manila... at least you know there was SOMETHING you may have seen soon :o ;D :D

Im just contacting tha AP first ... this is much bigger than these forums...
Title: Re: Spent a week in ARMM areas of Mindanao and saw things that will make you SICK !
Post by: on April 20, 2010, 07:57:20 PM
I have the strange feeling you will regale us with stories about how tranquil and peaceful and quiet and beautiful the place was, rather than the morbid tales of gore and mayhem most would expect after reading the thread title.  :D  ;)

Di ba.
Title: Re: Spent a week in ARMM areas of Mindanao and saw things that will make you SICK !
Post by: c_a_p_t_a_i_n_r_o_n on April 20, 2010, 09:58:48 PM
what dylanz a drama queen?  ;)
Title: Re: Spent a week in ARMM areas of Mindanao and saw things that will make you SICK !
Post by: dylanaz on April 20, 2010, 11:01:42 PM
I have the strange feeling you will regale us with stories about how tranquil and peaceful and quiet and beautiful the place was, rather than the morbid tales of gore and mayhem most would expect after reading the thread title.  :D  ;)

Di ba.

I came inches from death - and had to laugh my way out of it... but I just got home an even too exhausted to read my 200+ new emails...

I will figure out how to leave religion out of it and post here when the words all come together... hard to leave religion out of a place thats 98% Muslim - but I will come up with general ideas to write...

Peaceful - not hardly
Quiet - Tranquil.. well.. I brough back some TAP water.... they TRICKED me into drinking it for days - saying it was \"PURE WATER\" That I assumed meant \"Mineral water\"... and I never got even a slight discomfort...


But I would not have been shocked if I did not make it back... lets just say that... ok rest time...
Title: Re: Spent a week in ARMM areas of Mindanao and saw things that will make you SICK !
Post by: on April 21, 2010, 07:06:34 AM
I will figure out how to leave religion out of it and post here when the words all come together... hard to leave religion out of a place thats 98% Muslim - but I will come up with general ideas to write...

In my view, references to religion are fine if they help to explain peoples attitudes, providing there is no preaching involved. We all have our own opinions on the subject, but it is worth knowing what it is that drives a person to behave the way they do. Just my opinion for what its worth  ;) ;D

Colin
Title: Re: Spent a week in ARMM areas of Mindanao and saw things that will make you SICK !
Post by: dylanaz on April 21, 2010, 07:31:00 AM
In my view, references to religion are fine if they help to explain peoples attitudes, providing there is no preaching involved. We all have our own opinions on the subject, but it is worth knowing what it is that drives a person to behave the way they do. Just my opinion for what its worth  ;) ;D

Colin


I agree as well as I also feel \'preachyness\' can often lose the interest of readers who do not share the same views.

I am in the process of editing my ... information...

New story just noticed ... has nothing to do with my edits though...  ;D  :D
http://www.sunstar.com.ph/print/87410 (http://www.sunstar.com.ph/print/87410)
Title: Re: Spent a week in ARMM areas of Mindanao and saw things that will make you SICK !
Post by: GregW on April 21, 2010, 08:49:47 AM
It would be nice if religion or matters of faith could be discussed here when they are on topic and Philippine related.  However the problem is that some people complain when they see these.  And we should not show favoritism by discussing one while objecting to another.  In that light it\'s better to keep our beliefs to ourselves lest we offend.  Dylanaz is on the right track.



Title: Re: Spent a week in ARMM areas of Mindanao and saw things that will make you SICK !
Post by: dylanaz on April 22, 2010, 02:08:00 AM
I am the first to complain when people try to push their own particular brand of religion. There are very many variations on the theme, and what is of interest is why people chose their own particular belief instead of any of the others. Or why they chose any belief at all when they often fly in the face of science and logic. Again just my personal opinion but something that I have given a lot of thought over the years.

Colin

I agree with this and am taking steps to ensure my writing doesnt cross the line as I am preparing it. The issue I am facing is that there is just so much to write that it doesnt exactly fit a forum...

I equate it to the book/movie \"Journey to the center of the earth\"

Was their adventure 100% safe - no
Could they die - yes
Were there wonders unique to that journey - yes
Could it be rewarding there - yes
etc, etc, etc.... now imagine Jules Verne writing his novel and making the whole thing fit in one posting and not having hundreds of pages of text to fall back on... Quite a challenge....

Im hashing it out over a few days - in between my scrabble games...
Title: Re: Spent a week in ARMM areas of Mindanao and saw things that will make you SICK !
Post by: RUFUS on April 22, 2010, 02:36:09 AM
Write it out in notepad or word first, the break it into several parts and post them over several days... keep \'em wanting more ;)
Title: Re: Spent a week in ARMM areas of Mindanao and saw things that will make you SICK !
Post by: Gray Wolf on April 22, 2010, 08:40:26 AM
I am the first to complain when people try to push their own particular brand of religion. There are very many variations on the theme, and what is of interest is why people chose their own particular belief instead of any of the others. Or why they chose any belief at all when they often fly in the face of science and logic. Again just my personal opinion but something that I have given a lot of thought over the years.

Colin

Yes, you are the first to complain and it has caused us seemingly endless grief at times.    :(  

To everyone: This Forum is not about why people choose any particular religious or non-religious belief system.  Nor are we here to discuss science or logic.  Any posts that drift away into debate over religious dogma or try to reveal and discuss any specific belief system will be deleted immediately.  Period.  End of story.  

This particular thread was started by Dylan to post an essay on his trip to the ARMM.  Let\'s allow him to post his report and then we can discuss the details.
Title: Re: Spent a week in ARMM areas of Mindanao and saw things that will make you SICK !
Post by: on April 22, 2010, 11:42:53 AM
I am the first to complain when people try to push their own particular brand of religion. There are very many variations on the theme, and what is of interest is why people chose their own particular belief instead of any of the others. Or why they chose any belief at all when they often fly in the face of science and logic. Again just my personal opinion but something that I have given a lot of thought over the years.

Colin

Yes, you are the first to complain and it has caused us seemingly endless grief at times.    :(  

To everyone: This Forum is not about why people choose any particular religious or non-religious belief system.  Nor are we here to discuss science or logic.  Any posts that drift away into debate over religious dogma or try to reveal and discuss any specific belief system will be deleted immediately.  Period.  End of story.  

This particular thread was started by Dylan to post an essay on his trip to the ARMM.  Let\'s allow him to post his report and then we can discuss the details.

I only complain to try to keep the forum on track, and I am only expressing a personal view on what I would consider to be of general interest. This is not what is sometimes posted on here. I apologize if I cause grief that is not my intention  :(

Colin
Title: Re: Spent a week in ARMM areas of Mindanao and saw things that will make you SICK !
Post by: southern92 on April 22, 2010, 11:36:15 PM
Write it out in notepad or word first, the break it into several parts and post them over several days... keep \'em wanting more ;)

I\'m already \"wanting more\" and I have not even read the first installment, only seen the commercial for it!?!  ;)
Title: Re: Spent a week in ARMM areas of Mindanao and saw things that will make you SICK !
Post by: dylanaz on April 23, 2010, 12:09:34 AM
Write it out in notepad or word first, the break it into several parts and post them over several days... keep \'em wanting more ;)


I\'m already \"wanting more\" and I have not even read the first installment, only seen the commercial for it!?!  ;)


Its getting closer - I just uploaded over 500 photos I took while there.... and that was a doozy in a place where a camera can get you in a LOT of trouble ! Lots I tell ya !

Most of the times I kept the cam hidden - but heres a local reaction to seeing my cam THROUGH TINTED WINDOWS... they were not too happy about seeing a cam INSIDE THE CAR !!!

(http://i461.photobucket.com/albums/qq337/dylanaz/ARMM4_1020/e4c00bb5.jpg)

Its more than obvious media is not welcome there - but I was lucky to only be spotted that ONE time...

Title: Re: Spent a week in ARMM areas of Mindanao and saw things that will make you SICK !
Post by: jonnyivy on April 23, 2010, 12:12:30 AM
Looks like this is gonna be the biggest revelation of the forum ;;; 
Lets have the first page with the briefing on the story
Title: Re: Spent a week in ARMM areas of Mindanao and saw things that will make you SICK !
Post by: on April 26, 2010, 12:32:45 PM
On Nat-Geo TV last night, (4-2010), a program where an American that was involved commenting through the program what he ~~REALLY~~ went through step by step as being kidnapped AND saw two Pinoys with him beheaded, (worth no money), by what turned out as some Mindenao MLIF Rebals.

BTW, it all started out at the Cebu Sea Port and boated for hours to another island. Granted, this was in 1996. BUT................... what has changed in the Philippines since??????????????
B-Ray 
Title: Re: Spent a week in ARMM areas of Mindanao and saw things that will make you SICK !
Post by: c_a_p_t_a_i_n_r_o_n on April 26, 2010, 04:07:38 PM
Looks like this is gonna be the biggest revelation of the forum ;;; 
Lets have the first page with the briefing on the story

Or the biggest let down  :-[
Title: Re: Spent a week in ARMM areas of Mindanao and saw things that will make you SICK !
Post by: dylanaz on April 26, 2010, 05:10:09 PM
Looks like this is gonna be the biggest revelation of the forum ;;;  
Lets have the first page with the briefing on the story


Or the biggest let down  :-[


Not really - I lost 10 years of data including the source photos etc in this thread http://livinginthephilippines.com/forum/index.php/topic,3644.msg29070.html#new (http://livinginthephilippines.com/forum/index.php/topic,3644.msg29070.html#new)

Got them back (last nite at midnite) thanks to a FIlipina computer tech who showed me how on youtube !

But lost 3 days of what I thought would be resting and slowy writing at the same time . . . ;) Starting that again now...
But wow.. im burnt out... needed rest from almost dying on that trip - and no rest yet....  Where does a guy get a break around here ...

I need a beach, umbrella, ice cold coconuts with a straw and an iPad 3G ! Hehehe





Reply to ABOVE post:
WHen you hear those bells on my roof... its just me yelling SANCTUARY !  :P
(http://img374.imageshack.us/img374/6445/152fg.png)
Title: Re: Spent a week in ARMM areas of Mindanao and saw things that will make you SICK !
Post by: coutts00 on April 26, 2010, 05:12:17 PM
Thanks Dylan,

We all promise to be patient and allow you to finish, and if you don\'t we know where you live... ;D
Title: Re: Spent a week in ARMM areas of Mindanao and saw things that will make you SICK !
Post by: fred on April 26, 2010, 07:47:58 PM
Dylan..Your main priority is to stay safe which leads me to the question of why you are there in the first place!! Why?
Anyway..Im sure you have seen enough to write ample anecdotes of your journey so just get the hell out and in one piece!!
Ive met a few US soldiers that were assigned down there for around 3 years..They couldn\'t stop talking about their experiences either and they were protected and well armed..You are not.  Once again.. Stay safe via a quick exit.

Title: Re: Spent a week in ARMM areas of Mindanao and saw things that will make you SICK !
Post by: dylanaz on April 30, 2010, 03:02:59 PM
Dylan..Your main priority is to stay safe which leads me to the question of why you are there in the first place!! Why?
Anyway..Im sure you have seen enough to write ample anecdotes of your journey so just get the hell out and in one piece!!
Ive met a few US soldiers that were assigned down there for around 3 years..They couldn\'t stop talking about their experiences either and they were protected and well armed..You are not.  Once again.. Stay safe via a quick exit.



Thanks Fred. I made it out... here is the first part of my multi part series... geez... its really taxing to actually write when you have to actually thing to do so...  :D
Title: Re: Spent a week in ARMM areas of Mindanao and saw things that will make you SICK !
Post by: dylanaz on April 30, 2010, 03:04:49 PM
Or why they chose any belief at all when they often fly in the face of science and logic.


I keep sitting at my PC and TRYING to start my post.... its just so damn HUGE I get tired just thinking about typing all the information in.... I guess I will just post a few 1 paragraph headings and spread it across several posts now that I have determined how to discuss it without sounding all tele-preachy  ;D
I once heard that Rome was not built in one single day – and only now do I begin to really understand that. Trying to write my story in one take is simply impossible as I realized even the great writers of our time sometime seclude themselves for months or years to write a book, novel or what have you. There is not too much difference in this text I write.

NOTE: In my postings under this subject I will often refer to \"Muslim\" items/traditions/clothing etc as a way of identifying people places or things - there is no \"Muslim\" religion - their religion is called Islam - Muslim people, food, clothing are not mentioned by me in this thread for religious purposes but rather easy identification as there is simply no more efficient way to get these ideas across.

If I were to say  \"I was wearing a white Muslim cap on my head\" many people can easily visualize that - however if I did not use that word it would take countless words just to identify each person, place, thing I will refer to in these writings. It is used for identification and not religion in this context.
Some have asked why would I venture into an area that is known to be dangerous.I do believe that even the US Embassy posted a warning to Americans not to travel to that area!

Well… I decided that I had no choice but to go there after a little misunderstanding with one of the natives of the ARMM region. As I mentioned in previous writings people from the ARMM region tend to view anyone who is not from their territory as an outsider. They have divisions and social lines within their own society that are not to be crossed unless certain penalties are addressed. That’s within their own reign… so a person from the ‘other’ place…. Really stands no chance of mingling or blending in.

I posted some time last year that my utility meter had exploded in a storm and the local power company (Meralco) did not have any stock of meters to replace my dead unit. That ended up costing me a lot of money by staying in hotels for about a month and even more money getting the required permits and approvals to order a new electricity meter box and have my house approved as safe for installation! After about 2 weeks of running back and forth to permit offices and utility companies I was given a list of non-regulation items that needed to be corrected before they submit even a request to order a replacement meter (that was also out of stock at their warehouse). I hired a worker and began making the required adjustments to my house. Apparently the main line from meter to house had a splice at ground level and that’s what caused the original explosion – now I was tasked with laying a new main line and bringing it up to par.

Several hours into my work we had unexpected visitors from the ARMM region (my wife was actually born there but raised in Manila, but we will hear more of that story in a later installment) . Everyone I had met was informed to always text me first before visiting so I can fit them into my schedule and that day was a prime example of why I make such requests to everyone – even biological family. They informed me that they have just arrived and wanted to visit us for awhile and I kindly informed them that they should have send me a SMS message first so I can tell them we are busy on that day. I don’t think they fully understood the impact of a “westerner” not having electricity as some of them do not have electricity in their homes and it’s merely a luxury so in their minds I was simply being rude. You can compare it to a guest coming over for dinner and you telling them that they have to leave without eating because the food is too cold to eat. That is how they saw my weeks with no electricity and being stuck in the middle of a repair with an in$pector on his way to give me a “yes” or “no” decision.

Dripping with sweat, wearing just shorts and sandals I climbed down from the utility pole and informed them that I will contact them in a few days when I have fixed the problem. Well – that did not suit their needs and they began cursing in their native dialect and left.

Apparently they told everybody and his brother that I was rude and disrespected them and from then on every vendor in open markets looked at me all shifty-eyed. Most of them are related and they ALL stick together. Not really much I could do. When I telephoned the few people inside the ARMM region I knew personally they also informed me that so and so was waiting for me to arrive to “box me”. Im young, 6’ and 90kilos so not too many people would offer to “box” me Manny Paquiao style… So I got the idea…

I basically just ignored it until I started getting hit up for money. Basically the story went that if I contributed a little they would tell the others that I am a nice guy and all would be well. Actually that COULD have worked, but they never told anyone the 2 or 3 times I donated between P3k and P6k to this ‘cause’.  Word spread like wildfire and soon my wife was too shy to go near ANY vendor in most markets that I frequented (Electronics, DVD’s, textiles) as most have relatives from the ARMM region and almost every one is a 2nd or 3rd cousin of another. I realized there was absolutely nothing I could do but go to the source and personally address the issue with their “tribal leaders”. That is exactly what I did, and this is the story.

If you fight one – you must fight them all – and you will never win. I decided to contact some of the people I knew in that region and inform them I wanted to have a public hearing to clear my name and show that I am not a rude or unaccommodating intruder. Their laws are different in that region and they adhere closely to texts we “westerners” read about in history books. Their laws can be likened to the ancient texts of Hammurabi (Leader of Babylon, which was located between the Persian gulf and Israel). This Hammurabi code of 1790 BC is part of what helped shape western civilization today. Modern civilizations simply numbered each of their laws, rules and torts and gave tem names such as a “penal code”. The original text includes rules such as “If anyone ensnares another, putting a ban upon him, but he cannot prove it, then he that ensnared him shall be put to death”. Even as it is very similar in some aspects to the code of Hammurabi the actual code followed by the ARMM region is actually called “Sharia Law”.

(http://i461.photobucket.com/albums/qq337/dylanaz/ARMM4_1020/90e44e39.jpg)

Can you imagine how many “westerners” have successfully gone inside the ARMM region to file a case with ARMM leaders against an ARMM citizen? If you can count to zero then you are probably correct. That however is simply my guess.

I arrived at the Cagayan De Oro airport with my wife and son and was met by my driver. A little chika chika and a few hours later we were getting close to the mountain retreat that is the heart of ARMM territory. Amazingly I counted at least SIX armed military checkpoints on the way into the ARMM parent city of Marawi. Each one of these military checkpoints visually inspected the vehicle and twice the contents of the vehicle were casually looked over. They were looking for something and fortunately we did not have that ‘thing’ they are there for.

(http://i461.photobucket.com/albums/qq337/dylanaz/ARMM4_1020/5dbcc68d.jpg)

The Military knows EVERYTHING that goes in or out of that place. That was the setup for my adjusting to the “rebels” I would soon meet.

I have heard about this city where women are fined P500 or so for not wearing proper head covering in public at all times and I decided to wear a nice traditional Muslim suit in order to blend in. I unknowingly overdressed for the area and ended up standing out just a little bit more than I desired upon arrival. I did not realize that until a few people asked my wife if I was a Sultan of a nearby province. I guess its better to overdress than to be asked if I was a mere squatter… I also wore the hat on the photo ALIF and AMER have - apparently you must have a certain status to wear the type I was wearing. And coincidentally it was given to me last year by a Sultan(he took it off his head and gave it to me when I admired it - would have been an insult to not accept) - so that explains it.

(http://i461.photobucket.com/albums/qq337/dylanaz/ARMM4_1020/63c2c5c3.jpg)

(http://i461.photobucket.com/albums/qq337/dylanaz/ARMM4_1020/fa33fb55.jpg)

-----------TO BE CONTINUED -----------

(few days or a week or so – after I get some rest and lose this fever that I get when I have too many things to do – back to scrabble for awhile…)

NOTE: Almost every photo taken in public had to be done in secret. No quicker way to be identified as an outsider than to take photos of things locals see everyday !  Running from a mob would probably follow   :P
Title: Re: Spent a week in ARMM areas of Mindanao and saw things that will make you SICK !
Post by: Bill on October 17, 2010, 07:14:19 AM
 ???  and the end of the story is....???
Title: Re: Spent a week in ARMM areas of Mindanao and saw things that will make you SICK !
Post by: dylanaz on October 17, 2010, 02:41:29 PM
???  and the end of the story is....???

I was really hoping someone else who spent time there would finish it - then I could just be an innocent bystander  :P
Title: Re: Spent a week in ARMM areas of Mindanao and saw things that will make you SICK !
Post by: c_a_p_t_a_i_n_r_o_n on October 17, 2010, 03:04:47 PM
???  and the end of the story is....???

I was really hoping someone else who spent time there would finish it - then I could just be an innocent bystander  :P

But that would be their experience NOT yours and NOT what you saw......
Title: Re: Spent a week in ARMM areas of Mindanao and saw things that will make you SICK !
Post by: Lucky_Ray on October 18, 2010, 02:42:25 AM
wow --that is scary stuff.  I can\'t wait to hear more.  \'Cause that\'s the ONLY way I\'ll learn about anything that far South.
Title: Re: Spent a week in ARMM areas of Mindanao and saw things that will make you SICK !
Post by: tom.inbigdtexas on October 18, 2010, 06:43:04 AM
???  and the end of the story is....???

I was really hoping someone else who spent time there would finish it - then I could just be an innocent bystander  :P

Dylan, I feel your pain... and having a little extra time... I\'ll see if I can help you out.

My plan is to find a good spy novel... rip off the last few chapters and insert your name, Mindanao places, etc., in place of those used in the book.  Perhaps this Daniel Silva novel, \"The Kill Artist,\" will work:

\"Former Israeli intelligence operative Gabriel Allon is drawn back into the game to take on a cunning terrorist on one last killing spree, a Palestinian zealot who played a dark part in Gabriel\'s past. And what begins as a manhunt turns into a globe-spanning duel fueled by both political intrigue and deep personal passions...\"

I\'ll send you the initial galleys for your edits before I set up my final typesetting (yes, being techtarded I will be doing this on the old hand-operated offset printer down in my dungeon) for the final printing. 

If this is well received on the Forum - we\'ll probably want to seek out a publisher, so we\'ll need a name... maybe something that will [strike]steal [/strike]... invoke memories of other best sellers... maybe \"The (non)Occidental Tourist,\" or \"CDO Royale.\"

I\'ll proceed as set out above unless I hear further from you (a polite \"no thank you\" will suffice - no need for profanity). ;D

Tom in Big D
Title: Re: Spent a week in ARMM areas of Mindanao and saw things that will make you SICK !
Post by: mikek1 on October 18, 2010, 06:56:33 AM
What is ARRM ? When are you going to complete this riveting story?
Title: Re: Spent a week in ARMM areas of Mindanao and saw things that will make you SICK !
Post by: GregW on October 18, 2010, 07:33:58 AM
What is ARRM ? When are you going to complete this riveting story?

Mike, it\'s ARMM not ARRM.  It stands for Autonomous Region of Muslim Mindanao.

Title: Re: Spent a week in ARMM areas of Mindanao and saw things that will make you SICK !
Post by: dylanaz on October 19, 2010, 05:35:53 AM
My plan is to find a good spy novel... rip off the last few chapters and insert your name, Mindanao places, etc., in place of those used in the book.  Perhaps this Daniel Silva novel, \"The Kill Artist,\" will work:

Nice idea ! Like Zohan retires to the Philippines !

hehe
Title: Re: Spent a week in ARMM areas of Mindanao and saw things that will make you SICK !
Post by: tom.inbigdtexas on October 19, 2010, 05:53:39 AM
My plan is to find a good spy novel... rip off the last few chapters and insert your name, Mindanao places, etc., in place of those used in the book.  Perhaps this Daniel Silva novel, \"The Kill Artist,\" will work:

Nice idea ! Like Zohan retires to the Philippines !

hehe

Great idea (you really do have good business sense)... if we pick up a movie deal for the book... this title will already have a good box office following built right in.

If Sandler and Chriqui are not available... maybe we can cast Brad and Angelina. ;D

And... to stay on topic for this thread... Eureka Moment ---- we can cast all our Filipino family members as extras at union scale and drastically reduce the need for family assistance... (this may save your marriage, or at least save you from family retribution ;D).

Tom in Big D
Title: Re: Spent a week in ARMM areas of Mindanao and saw things that will make you SICK !
Post by: ontime on February 25, 2011, 12:10:21 AM
Dylanaz ... wow talk about leaving your public hanging...

What happened to the rest of the story...

Not to worry we got the point...

Stay clear of ARMM AT ALL COSTS...

Title: Re: Spent a week in ARMM areas of Mindanao and saw things that will make you SICK !
Post by: on February 26, 2011, 06:13:18 PM
Dylanaz ... wow talk about leaving your public hanging...

What happened to the rest of the story...
NO, don\'t leave the public hanging......
Dylanaz, how about it, will you finish the story. I am really interested in what happened next, mainly from a cultural & religious perspective.

Personally these 2 areas are facinating subjects for me.

So how about it Dylanaz??? will you give up more for the fans  ;)

Bruce
Title: Re: Spent a week in ARMM areas of Mindanao and saw things that will make you SICK !
Post by: RUFUS on February 27, 2011, 02:43:31 AM
Dylan CANNOT finish it!
As of May 1, 2010  He was disintegrated by MILF forces for already giving too much information.
He was promptly replaced with a robot clone built in China as an experiment to see if disintegrations and replacements with robot clones could be achieved without notice.
IT ALMOST WORKED!
But RUFUS, one of the leaders spearheading the research into the Chinese robot clone conspiracy, has been able to detect robot Dylan\'s attempts to use mind beams to read his mind...
EVERYONE!!!... Put on your Aluminum foil hats!!!
Title: Re: Spent a week in ARMM areas of Mindanao and saw things that will make you SICK !
Post by: c_a_p_t_a_i_n_r_o_n on February 27, 2011, 03:25:57 AM
Dylan CANNOT finish it!
As of May 1, 2010  He was disintegrated  MILF forces for already giving too much information.
He was promptly replaced with a robot clone built in China as an experiment to see if disintegrations and replacements with robot clones could be achieved without notice.
IT ALMOST WORKED!
But RUFUS, one of the leaders spearheading the research into the Chinese robot clone conspiracy, has been able to detect robot Dylan\'s attempts to use mind beams to read his mind...
EVERYONE!!!... Put on your Aluminum foil hats!!!

All so believable until that partial sentence  :D

Where would robot Dylan even start to look?  ;)
Title: Re: Spent a week in ARMM areas of Mindanao and saw things that will make you SICK !
Post by: dylanaz on February 27, 2011, 08:21:13 AM
I think sharing a few photos and captions never hurt anyone  ;D

Here are the dancers that entertained for my reception when I arrived in the ARMM region.

The floor area is about 3 times larger that what you can see in the photos as there was seating for approx 200 persons.

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This hall is in a relatives \'backyard\'/\'compound\' and several floors/stories tall - some people have HUGE properties there !



We stayed in a small guest room. Which happened to be larger than many homes in this country (referring to my friends who live in Manila).

Several times a day servants would bring us these huge trays loaded with food. It was amazing. I requested Coke as their only source of water was from the family well. After several days the family DEMANDED I try the well water. I was 100% shocked not to become ill from drinking it and took a flask of it back to Manila with me hidden in a baby bottle. I had their local well water tested when I returned to Manila - IT TESTED MORE PURE THAN THE DISTILLED WATER I NORMALLY USED TO FEED MY BABY  !!! Home delivered water was 5ppm while the pure well water registered only 2ppm (parts per MILLION of total dissolved solids) WOW !  For comparison TAP WATER in Manila is over 300ppm on this same test - lower number = more pure water!

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Some of the 200 or so guests at my reception
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This was my favorite food tray - notice the bowl to the right is empty - that was because it was my favorite beef - tastes like smoked pot roast covered in smoked coconut shavings. Curry rice was teh centerpiece with boiled eggs skewered into the center. NOTE: ARMM members traditionally eat with no utensils. Not even a spoon. The brass \'tea kettle\' is used to wash your hands before eating - and you are required to eat with only your right hand - as that hand is reserved for eating, holding religious books and off limits to other personal hygene activites you have during your life. Wash BEFORE eating, during eating and AFTER eating. ARMM members also traditionally bathe 5 times daily. SO there is a lot of washing going on there.
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Every family that is financially able to has their very own mosque on their property with full staff. There are no need for alarm clocks here as the call to prayer marks the time 5x daily and starts at around 4am and is broadcast on loudspeakers - which happened to be about 10 meters from my guestroom window  :P

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There are jeeps there as well - just like others places in the philippines - however due to their traditional belief that no images of any spiritual or divine being be portrayed - you find most jeeps covered in video game logos - as gaming is very popular in the ARMM region (pop-music Icon logos are rarely found also - just like you see very few jeeps in Manila with Tanduay or Condom logos - while you will may find 1 or 2 - its just not too proper of a logo... )

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This is a house built by relatives over 400 years ago. Yes - it is OVER 400 years old and the same family has lived there for 4 centuries. With their own rules, laws and policy... understanding that we can begin to see why such areas prefer to keep their own views/laws instead of adopting the current ones that came to power genrations after they were already established here.

It looks like an old house UNTIL you examine it closely. It looks as if the posts were carved from living trees on the spot without even being uprooted. Quite sturdy too - withstanding 4 centuries of weather.

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Several families have their \'family mosque\' overlooking THE nice lake (the name of these people translates to english as THE PEOPLE OF THE LAKE)... rather relaxing if I might add - to meditate with a cool breeze blowing and the sound of fresh water
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A busy street at the MSU (Mindanao State University) campus. We see a girl in this photo with her head uncovered, however her head covering is still on her shoulders. That is passable - as if a man in manila walked down the street with his polyester shirt unbottoned just a few buttons down...  looked at the same way...
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University staff
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Hardest place in the world to take photos... family elders cautioned me to never be seen with a camera in public. (how many photos have YOU personally seen taken of the ARMM region civilians??) Reaction to cameras is pictured below IF THEY ARE POLITE. SO that was the first and LAST time I let my camera go anywhere near people outside of the immediate family.

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At the end of my stay there - people warmed up
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Note - I counted a total of ONE BANK when I was there. I am sure that adds to their distrust of cameras. People there simply do not trust banks (and for good reason) - chances are all of their families monies are hidden somewhere - and a camera is probably a sign that someone is out to find their money... Were not talking small fries either - Im talking millions in Euros or USD. When that massacare suspect family was raided they found millions upon millions of pesos... That is 100% normal when all family keep their money hidden on their own property. Which also gives need for private/family security. A relative spent 80 million pesos during his last elections. Most of that was from his own pocket. And people question why politicians drive with blacked out vehicle windows and an entourage of armed guards.

The only problem is that your Competition probably also spent 80 million peso and the loser does not get ANY of that money back....  what would you do to make sure you win  :-X - But politics is not for me at all... due to many factors.

We have many expats retiring here with peanuts who also make sure they have guns in the house for protection... How many guns would you need if you had a few million USD buried in that house of yours folks  :o Then how many family members do you have to house in order to keep your things secured from \'outsiders\'  :D

Little by little - we can begin to see the big picture.. does not take a rocket scientist.

Nevertheless it is still high noon in the OK corral
Title: Re: Spent a week in ARMM areas of Mindanao and saw things that will make you SICK !
Post by: on February 28, 2011, 12:06:04 PM
dylanaz, I realize your subject title is a come-on! Kinda like your style as learned with time!!

The ~~PHOTOS~~  posted are GRRRReat news for a given area within the Island that has so many questions!!

QUOTE: \"Little by little - we can begin to see the big picture.. does not take a rocket scientist.\"

That becomes, how small is that area in regards to the BIGGER picture of the situation as over all.........of the Island in question by many?

QUOTE: \"Nevertheless it is still high noon in the OK corral\"
B-Ray
Title: Re: Spent a week in ARMM areas of Mindanao and saw things that will make you SICK !
Post by: dylanaz on February 28, 2011, 12:12:02 PM
That becomes, how small is that area in regards to the BIGGER picture of the situation as over all.........of the Island in question by many?


I forgot to mention all photos were in the city of Marawi.

Marawi is the HQ and center of those people and their beliefs. As Lanao del Sur\'s capital city, Marawi serves as the province\'s commercial, educational, cultural, religious, and political center. (source (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marawi))



I guess you can say its their \"Manila\"  :P