Author Topic: Companies outside the Philippines helping Philippine citizens break the law  (Read 2451 times)

Offline fred

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These anti prostitution NGO`s have been coming here for years to try to clear their consciences for 5 minutes and then leave.. They have lots of good advice for these girls but cannot offer them employment alternatives..Then they leave..Conscience clear and their efforts amount to nothing.
I doubt that DU30 will do very much about this issue..Just a hunch.

Offline bigpearl

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I found Justica's initial post very disjointed, wasn't until I read the second post that I realised where it was aimed. Fight it as much as you like, you can't stop supply and demand. whether first or third world societies, there are and always will be those persons that want and need this type of release/gratification. Human nature,,,,,,,,,some.
What Justica, to me is talking about is pedophilia. Nasty stuff, I always said to my ex wife that if someone touched/interfered with one of our children I would ____ them. That is our Culture and way of thinking here but I do take note that in many countries on this fine planet of ours that girls as young as 11 or 12 are married off and that is the norm in their culture, be it right or wrong. The child is innocent, the family and culture condone.
Why not look at political and civil corruption, Theft, (same thing) murder, rape, drug traffickers, wife bashers,,,,,,,,,, wait for it,,,,, husband bashers, drunk drivers etc etc.
Back to PI. Lets hope du30 can eradicate all of the above and I hope if he does the rest of the world sits up and takes note, in saying that I do sincerely pray that no innocents get in the way.
Touchy subject.
Cheers, Steve

Offline Justica

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The evidence is right there on those cam sites, and nobody is taking any notice, someone's not doing their job.
If someone was doing their job, then the site owners would be in jail for their part in these crimes, full stop.

Every webcam site online is taking in under age girls, mostly through adults,
The adults are using young girls to spread the word, it's a ring of child abuse.
If that's not a crime what is? those sites are a breeding place for paedophiles.

I hope your child never finds themselves in a city where adults will gladly put them to work in the sex industry,
Because that is exactly what's happening in the Philippines, and those sites are the main reason it's taking place.

The fact is, none of these girls can provide identification, but the sites still take them in,
It's already a criminal offence to participate in online cyber sex and carries a jail sentence.

Someone needs to go on these sites and start recording conversations and show the public what's really happening.
In most civilised countries you would be prosecuted to the full extent of the law, these sites need to be investigated.

Your kids are growing up thinking that the best opportunity for making money is prostitution online.
Where mostly adult males are paying for sex with under aged girls, this is a serious issue and it's being ignored.

It's child abuse, human trafficking and everything else that involves using young girls for sex.

If the Philippine government doesn't think this is a problem, then maybe it's time for a new government.

There are 1000's of under age girls used for sex online every day and someone needs to do something to put these people out of business.

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Offline Gray Wolf

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Justica,

You just had an election. Like Mr Lee said, contact Duterte for your concerns. What you don't seem to understand is that we can't do anything about this. What do you expect us to do, march on every one of these websites, taking justice, and our lives, in our own hands?
I agree that sex trafficking, especially child sex, is horrible and should be stopped. But what would you have us do? Seriously, what would you propose we do? Inquiring minds want to know.
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Offline Art, just a re(tired) Fil-Am

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Justica,
I think I and others on here have already provided enough information and videos concerning your issues with your concerns on human trafficking in the Philippines. The Philippines isn't the only country with human trafficking problems, India and other Asian countries have the same issues too, let alone in Europe dealing with with the same issues and also with radical Islamic terrorism.
The Philippines just had their election recently and I'm sure their new President elect and other elected government officials will do what is necessary concerning human/drug trafficking, other criminal activities and the wide spread of radical Islamic terrorism.   
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Offline conchydong

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Justica, while I feel that most of us on this site, and most humans in general, feel that child prostitution and pornography is a horrible thing, what is the point you are trying to make on this forum? You have only posted on this particular topic. Why don't you tell us a little about yourself so we can understand a bit more about you and why you feel so strongly about this issue.


Offline bcnorth

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Justica, you write it doesn’t seem governments and NGOs much care about the sexual exploitation of quite young and underage girls. I agree with my forum compatriots that it is a difficult, if not an almost impossible task for governments to do so. Nevertheless, Father Shay Cullen and the PREDA Foundation in Olongapo City works with the local police to locate and ferret out pimps and bar owners who employ underage girls and boys. The PREDA Foundation also is quite aggressive in raising funds to help feed and house young women who have been rescued from bars and whorehouses. The Foundation also gives classes to young men and women with little education so they might become gainfully employed.
I met Father Shay Cullen in San Francisco in late 1992/early 1993 when he asked for help from the San Francisco Police Department and the public in identifying pimps and North American men who travel to the Philippines for a sex holiday with very young girls and boys. The police promised they would work with him.
The New Democratic Party (a wishy-washy Socialist Party) in Alberta, Canada has sent money to both the Philippines and to Thailand to help the governments catch and prosecute Canadians who believe they can abuse youth and amuse themselves in Asia without being caught. The following is from Wikopedia’s “Child Sex Tourism.”
Canada . . .in its Criminal Code . . .allows for the arrest and prosecution of Canadians in Canada for offences committed in foreign countries related to child sex tourism, such as child prostitution. . .child sexual exploitation offences, such as indecent acts, child pornography and incest (Bills C-27 and C-15A . . . Convictions carry a penalty of up to 20 years imprisonment.

Offline bigpearl

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I'll most likely get slapped for this but,,,,,,,,, Justica, apart from bleating and ranting on an Expat site where most if not all of the members/readers
live in/want to live in (and I presume this is your country) the Philippines,,,,,, are already partnered "legally"; what are you personally doing to stop the sexual exploitation and abuse of "minors"???? As other members have asked, have you gone to the top? Have you lobbied or are you actively working and badgering the powers that be?
How passionate are you regarding this issue? If you are truly serious and want changes then you need to seek out help, not tirade and point the finger in the wrong direction.
Help is there, there are plenty of NGO's in many countries that deal with this and many other humanitarian issues, if you can't find, ask, if there is nothing that fits the bill, do! I mean do, not whinge and cry.
Set up a trust, not for profit, lobby the right people, seek out volunteers and sponsors, government funding, etc etc.
There will always be those that take advantage of the innocent and weak, remove them and the pickings are slim.
Food, housing, education, then "legal" employment will curtail and hopefully stop abuse of the innocent.
Personally, if I can help, I will, please talk to me/us and let's see if there are any avenues to start the ball rolling on this serious problem.
Facts and figures please.
Cheers, Steve
 

Offline Justica

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I don't know how I can help without going public, the only information I have is from people that have investigated these sites.
It's all over the internet and in the media, there is enough evidence to take these websites down and prosecute the owners.
But the facts remain, nobody is doing anything about them, they are getting away with multiple child abuse crimes every day.

I have posted this just to make people aware of what is going on, people will read it, I just hope the right people read it.
I know people that have young children and they are poor, they are afraid that as soon as their children realise most
of their friends are having sex with mostly older men on these sites, their kids will most likely follow the same path,

A life of sex abuse.

All I can say is it is a shame that governments don't get together and understand what is going on, take these websites down.

Think of what kind of filth your child would be asked to do if they find themselves in that situation where adults with no morals,
no respect for the child are going to make them perform sex acts that no child should ever have to experience.

That's not a life for a child, if people can't get together to stop it, then the world is just screwed up.
The saddest part is these kids grow up thinking these people are their friends, when all they have done is sexually abuse them.

It's illegal in most countries, so why should it be allowed on the internet when it's obviously child abuse.

I'm just a caring person that found out the truth behind the scenes and it makes me sick to know that people,
adults are doing this all over the Philippines, in every city, targeting mostly under aged girls, and other countries too.

I think the best thing that can happen is to try communicate with these girls and boys, and offer them the opportunity to
leave the Philippines and go to a civilised country where they'll have a better chance of a life where people won't exploit them for sex.
Lets face it folks, not enough people in the top powers care enough to wipe out this dirt, someone behind the scenes will have to take action.

End of story.
« Last Edit: June 07, 2016, 02:33:24 AM by Justica »

Offline bigpearl

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Justica, you keep going over the same ground with no new information, no factual or credible sources, hearsay. firstly you are spending time and effort writing to an expat site with limited exposure, members offered what help they could, asked for more details etc. As you said "End of story".
You also said """I don't know how I can help without going public, the only information I have is from people that have investigated these sites.
It's all over the internet and in the media, there is enough evidence to take these websites down and prosecute the owners.
But the facts remain, nobody is doing anything about them, they are getting away with multiple child abuse crimes every day."""
Then go public, aim for a bigger audience, newspapers, television, radio and as I said earlier lobby politicians but make sure you have facts, figures and credibility.
Remember though that if you manage to "take down" those sites and perpetrators there will be a lot of hungry mouths with no income, that's why I said in my previous post "" There will always be those that take advantage of the innocent and weak, remove them and the pickings are slim.
Food, housing, education, then "legal" employment will curtail and hopefully stop abuse of the innocent"".
There needs to be a program/institution/safety net in place, up and running to help not only the abused children but also their families, remove the poverty, give them hope. A huge task in a developing nation.

Justica, put your energy into making a difference, even if you only help one child, that would be fantastic.

Good luck with your efforts, I hope you can make a difference.
Cheers, Steve

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To the members/readers of this forum.
Thanks for the informative input, Art as always seems to have his finger on the pulse; bcnorth, good info with Father Shay Cullen, maybe he could be a good contact point for Justica.

Cheers, Steve

Offline D. Williams

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This topic is now closed, it has run its course, there is nothing any of the members of this forum can do to improve the conditions, most, no all of the members of this forum would not be involved in any of those abuse situations and we surely do not need any of those sites posted on this forum to give them even more activity.

Topic closed. OP my suggestion is that you contact the new president of the Philippines or follow the other suggestion.

 


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