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Offline Art, just a re(tired) Fil-Am

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Re: What have we(Filipinas) become....
« Reply #30 on: August 06, 2015, 04:56:52 AM »
Just a reminder to foreign tourists and or locals of the Laws when it comes to women's age. Julie's American renter is 70 yrs old, see below where it is written under RA 7610 in bold print!
It would seem to put a cramp in a man's dating style for women in their company who is 10 years or more his junior if I read RA 7610 correctly. Just think how many foreigners or locals today that it would pertain to with women who are 10 years or more their junior and I'm sure many of us here have seen it many times where an older man with a young women clinging to his arms and for certain that the young woman is most likely 10 yrs his junior! Kind of an over kill law IMHO, because most of us are married to our Filipina wives 10 or more years our junior, this RA 7610 must be new or it just pertains to minors under 18 yrs of age and it's in writing under this RA 7610 where it says minors or 10 yrs a man's junior. OK I'm guilty as charged after the fact if that be the case, because my wife is 11 yrs my junior, but hey, we were both consenting adults! Did I interrupt RA 7610 in bold print below wrong? I don't know and it's too late now to worry about it huh! I think I just read RA 7610 wrong, because the age of majority (a legal adult) in most countries is 18 yrs of age and above! So, this (DOM), a "Desirable Old Man" has nothing to worry about!
So, don't shoot the messenger OK? I just read this law and an article about a man 72 yrs old who was nabbed by authorities on another forum just awhile ago, here's the article in question:  http://tinyurl.com/pju2g8t So, you decide for yourselves how you would interrupt the law under these two Republic Acts.
The law
Under RA 9208, a person is prohibited “to recruit, transport, transfer; harbor, provide, or receive a person by any means, including those done under the pretext of domestic or overseas employment or training or apprenticeship, for the purpose of prostitution, pornography, sexual exploitation, forced labor, slavery, involuntary servitude or debt bondage.”
Section 10 (b) of RA 7610 prohibits any person to be in the company of “a minor, 12 years or under or who is 10 years or more his junior in any public or private place, hotel, motel, beer joint, discotheque, cabaret, pension house, sauna or massage parlor, beach and/or other tourist resort or similar places.”
« Last Edit: August 06, 2015, 05:45:44 AM by Art, just a re(tired) Fil-Am »
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Re: What have we(Filipinas) become....
« Reply #31 on: August 06, 2015, 06:34:11 AM »
Section 10 (b) of RA 7610 prohibits any person to be in the company of “a minor, 12 years or under or who is 10 years or more his junior in any public or private place, hotel, motel, beer joint, discotheque, cabaret, pension house, sauna or massage parlor, beach and/or other tourist resort or similar places.”

The interpretation has to be that it applies to minors between the ages of 12 - 17 years old that are 10 years or more his/her junior.

(Taken literally it also seems to say that no person of any age can be in the company of a minor 12 years old and under.)
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Re: What have we(Filipinas) become....
« Reply #32 on: August 06, 2015, 07:59:04 AM »
So, a 70 yr old man with an 18 yr old is OK to be his companion and within the law?
That's still a pretty huge age gap and is it OK with society's morals, the Filipino culture
and or the law of the land? Hmmmm!  ::) ???
« Last Edit: August 06, 2015, 08:09:42 AM by Art, just a re(tired) Fil-Am »
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Re: What have we(Filipinas) become....
« Reply #33 on: August 06, 2015, 08:38:42 AM »
So, a 70 yr old man with an 18 yr old is OK to be his companion and within the law?
That's still a pretty huge age gap and is it OK with society's morals, the Filipino culture
and or the law of the land? Hmmmm!  ::) ???

Art, as you yourself say all the time, different strokes for different folks,  who are we to sit in judgement of others, where do we draw the line, 5 years, 10 year, 20 year, 30 years, 40 years, 50 years difference, what goes on between two consenting ADULTS should remain between those adults and while some of us may not like seeing it,  it is really none of our business. I myself have met a number of couples with a huge age difference and they seem very happy, so would it be better if a younger man who was abusive, was in the relationship, or a older man who treats the lady with kindness and appreciation for her being with him, I think the latter is better and while it probably would not be for me, I am glad those we have met seem very happy.

Now I am asking to put an end to the age difference judgemental posts and let the topic itself prosper, if not then I will have no choice but to begrudgingly close this topic.

BTW to add, we have a number of members on this very forum who may be sitting back feeling insulted by some of the members posts.
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Re: What have we(Filipinas) become....
« Reply #34 on: August 06, 2015, 10:09:13 AM »
Why should anyone on here get offended, no one on here is 70 yrs old and dating an 18 yr old! Yes it is none of our business and it's all about "Different Strokes for Different Folks" as I always say as my favorite motto for those coming to the Philippines to visit and or to live permanently! Anyway, enough about this age difference thread and let's move on shall we!   
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Re: What have we(Filipinas) become....
« Reply #35 on: August 06, 2015, 10:21:23 AM »
They dont need to get insulted if I where your friend and you had a girl way to young for my eyes its my way to Joke around with you and tell your DOM Lee2 we are all old men on here and we have been Joking about this Topic they need to just smile and say yes I am and proud of it..the truth is Lee2 If I was free I may or may not get me one of those for awhile hell...Just smile and dont take it so serously...if some one on here got hurt I have some Tissue used a Bit tho.I have Been Joking around with this Topic the one who posted this must be sitting back lol her Butt off.?? at us going at it like this....I wont be anyones friend in person if they are so Dam sensitive about things in Life.I had my chances for sure once in a Parlor to get my feet scrubbed A very young girl age 19 wanted me to leave my wife for her and even asked me to run away with her and rent an apartment she even after many meetings in that parlor showed me with her pants pulled down said am I sexy or not?? ofcourse I said hell yes..I then lied to her to make her stop and said my wifes uncle is a senator and would hunt me down if I left her..she always said hello to my wife and behind my wifes back she wanted me with her..lets dont get mad so easy we all are in here to help each other sorry if anyone got affended for my crap...
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Re: What have we(Filipinas) become....
« Reply #36 on: August 06, 2015, 10:49:43 AM »
Just to set the record straight non of the comments/opinions on here have offended/upset me in any way.  Willbill in regard to Tissue we were at S&R yesterday and we bought 48 rolls, so no need for used a little Tissue.  If you need some unused let me know, I am sure we could spare some.  Glad you can get a free show in the Parlor, I only get a shoulder massage in the barber shop. :(  As to whether anyone on this forum or anywhere else agrees with my current situation I really don't care.  As long as my wife is happy that is my only concern.  Concerning the 70 year old in Baguio again that is not my problem.  If it was my rental there would have already been ground rules laid out prior to the rental.  Since it appears they were not then the landlord needs to take the action they deem appropriate.
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Re: What have we(Filipinas) become....
« Reply #37 on: August 06, 2015, 03:34:15 PM »
He isn't any of my business either but you would think he would be mature enough to not put her in a precarious position to begin with of which she is having trouble deciding what would be the right thing to do.

I say since it is her property, she needs to throw his butt out of there if he decides to come back and continue to have a revolving door with women running in and out of the place.

And on the way out, she can tell him not to let the door hit him in the azz.
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Re: What have we(Filipinas) become....
« Reply #38 on: August 07, 2015, 11:48:04 AM »
Interestin forum, am moving ther end of august, was there in  may met me long term lady, and getting married sept 4, she is 57  and I am 80, just want to enjoy the rest of my years and see that she is taken care of, as she takes wonderfull care of me

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Re: What have we(Filipinas) become....
« Reply #39 on: August 08, 2015, 10:26:00 PM »
Age difference is always a problem on forums, PLEASE lets drop the judgemental posting, to each his own. I have met quite a few with many years between them and they seemed very happy, so love has a strange way of hitting some of us without us expecting it to.

For the record my wife is 20 years younger than I am, I met her at 23 and we married when she was 26 and while I thought she was too young for me, we get along great and have already been married 21 years, so age is not always an issue.
I am with you Lee2, I don't see any problem with huge age gaps, yes each to his own. My aunt,who helped me with my education married a "Hawayano" in the 60's. In my aunt's case, her husband went to Hawaii in the early 30's as a sugarcane plantation worker and came back to the Philippines when he is about to retire to find  a wife. They have 28 year age difference and had a wonderful marriage. A good friend of mine when I was in Hawaii is a beautiful 27 year old who married a 65 year old nice man. From her body language and actions, I know she loves and cared about her husband. She worked for several years until her husband needs care. She doesn't want him to go to a care home and so she brought him back to the Philippines so she can take care of him full time. My apology if my post has touched a nerve. It was never my intention to bring light to the age differences.

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Re: What have we(Filipinas) become....
« Reply #40 on: August 08, 2015, 10:28:13 PM »
I don't know about you other fellas on here, I'm one of those DOMs too,
but aka a "Desirable Old Man" and so is Lee2, he's a Chick Magnet!  ;)
Ha ha, I like your sense of humour Kuya Art

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Re: What have we(Filipinas) become....
« Reply #41 on: August 08, 2015, 10:50:19 PM »
My apology if my post has touched a nerve. It was never my intention to bring light to the age differences.
While you were probably not referring to me, no nerve on my part, my wife and I get along great but sometimes some members of forums and people in general, who are not in the large age difference group, seem to not understand it. It is my opinion that we all need to be more tolerant of others and their ways, as no one way is the only correct way. The main thing in life and, IMHO is that we all enjoy our lives and never let others who judge us, or live a different life, get to us.

As for your situation, it is your home, so your rules should apply. If the guy is serious about one woman or another then maybe that would be okay for you to let her stay there but that would be totally up to you but if he is going to be a playboy and have lots of women coming and going, then that may be the time you have to put your foot down, again it is always your decision to make.

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Re: What have we(Filipinas) become....
« Reply #42 on: August 08, 2015, 11:00:01 PM »
Thank you for the kind comment Art, yes at 67 years of age some women still look my way and that is both in the US and the Philippines but I am a one woman man, so while I enjoy them flirting with me, it is good for this old man's ego ;) but that is where it ends.

Now as far as chick magnets Art, I am pretty darn sure that your movie star looks would probably get you all you wanted too, if you wanted them.

I think what is important in a relationship is that both end up happy, whatever their reasons for going into that relationship might be.

As for Lei, it seems the guy took you at your word and went to a hotel in a search for his women, so as long as he does not do it under your roof, then more power to him and to whoever decides to have him.

I always joke that in the US my wife is my trophy wife and in the Philippines, I am her trophy husband, both seem to work out fine and I never thought of her as a trophy but it seems that some people who see us together seem to think in that direction, sad people have to be so judgemental of others.
I wish there's a "like button", so I don't have to make a comment! Cheers to all! As for the "my guy renter", I sure hope he found a nice lady for a companion. I will let him stay as long as he like for as long as he will not use my place as a motel.

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Re: What have we(Filipinas) become....
« Reply #43 on: August 09, 2015, 10:06:27 AM »
I have been following this story from the start and have not felt qualified to comment since I have not been to the philippines yet.  As an older man who will move there someday soon I have a great interest.  I have a great respect for many of the members of this forum who have started very stable familys there.  At this point in my life, that is my goal.  Not all foreigners are bad guys.
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Re: What have we(Filipinas) become....
« Reply #44 on: August 09, 2015, 03:59:39 PM »
This topic must revert ad rem because it has gone into la-la-land. Lei has a problem with younger Filipinas throwing themselves at older foreigners.

I have worked as a teacher all my life with all age groups from 4 to 70. It is quite normal for younger people to look on persons in authority in adulation. They see the father they never had. They see a wise person who knows everything. They see a kind person who could take care of them and protect them from danger. They see a sympathetic and understanding person who can take away pain they are suffering in life.

Filipinos look on all foreigners the same way. It is simply lack of experience or education.
Teachers experience this all the time. The difference is that any professional teacher recognises this for what it is and walks away maintaining an appropriate distance.

The foreigner, who does not understand this aspect of life, comes to the Philippines and gets the same adulation and treatment from all Filipinos. That is a normal reaction in any poor country. Unless they are an experienced person in dealing with this phenomenon they do not understand. Generally they see it as sexual attraction and treat it as such. The younger person reciprocates because they think 'this is the answer and solution'.

The foreigner thus is merely an unwitting predator and the Filipina is the ignorant prey. (I use the word 'ignorant' in the correct dictionary definition and not in any derogatory way).

Some call it love. The psychologist would call it immature infatuation.

When I see the reaction of many to a 'she done me wrong' story in SE Asia i really laugh. In all those situations it is a far younger and less educated local female who is doing the far older foreigner 'wrong'. Who is the fool? The young woman merely discovers the weak person behind the western facade and escapes as best she can or knows. I always wish these young women the best of luck.



 

 


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