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Living in The Philippines => Immigration,Visas to stay in the Philippines => Topic started by: GregW on February 15, 2011, 08:17:55 AM

Title: 13a Visa - Get it before you're here or after?
Post by: GregW on February 15, 2011, 08:17:55 AM
The 13a visa is sometimes referred to as a spousal permanent residence visa.  It is for spouses of Philippine citizens and may obtained in your home country before relocating or obtained after you arrive in the Philippines.  If obtained in your home country, it is permanent beginning when you register it on arrival.  If you obtain it in the RP, it will be probationary for the first year and then you must go through the whole procedure again to make it permanent.  

For obtaining it in the US here is what the Honolulu Consulate has to say;

A non-quota immigrant visa may be granted to the spouse and unmarried children under 21 years of age of Philippine citizens (13A) and to former Filipinos who have already acquired foreign citizenships including their spouse and unmarried minor children (13G). Following are the requirements for a 13A visa:
 

Passport (valid at least 6 months from date of application)
Duly accomplished visa application form (Form 3)
Six (6) 2 x 2 photos, applicant’s signature on bottom front
Documentary evidence to prove spouse's or either parent's Philippine citizenship and to show applicant's relationship to the Philippine citizen such as original birth certificate, Philippine passport, marriage contract.
Medical Examination Report (FA Form 11 - available at the Consulate) duly accomplished by a licensed physician and whose signature must be duly notarized; together with a life-size chest x-ray film and laboratory reports (original and two (2) copies.) Medical Examination Report should not be more than six (6) months from the date of application.
Police Clearance Certificate - Please apply 15 days before date of departure for the Philippines at the following address:

Hawaii Criminal Justice Data Center
Kekuanao'a Bldg.,
465 South King St., Room 101
Honolulu, HI 96183
Tel No. (808) 587-3100 | (808) 745-4300

Evidence of sound financial status e.g. proof of real property, investment, bank certification, pension, notarized Affidavit of Support from a relative in the Philippines, attaching documents to substantiate declaration or claim
Personal Appearance for Interview
Visa Fee of $150 payable in cash or money order only

http://www.philippineconsulatehonolulu.com/content/general-information-visas (http://www.philippineconsulatehonolulu.com/content/general-information-visas)



To obtain it once your in the RP here is what Immigration has to say;

13(A)    The wife or the husband or the unmarried child under twenty-one years of age of a Philippine citizen, if accompanying or following to join such citizen;

Checklist of Requirements for Non-Quota Immigrant by Marriage Under Section 13(a)

Duly notarized letter of application by the Filipino spouse;
General Application Form duly accomplished and notarized (BI Form No. MCL-07-01);
NSO authenticated copy of Birth certificate of Filipino spouse;
NSO authenticated copy of the Marriage Contract of alien and Filipino spouse or authenticated by the Philippine embassy/consulate nearest to or in the place where the marriage was solemnized;
Bureau of Immigration (BI) Clearance Certificate; and
Plain photocopy of passport of alien spouse showing dates of arrival and authorized stay.


http://immigration.gov.ph/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=26&Itemid=35 (http://immigration.gov.ph/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=26&Itemid=35)

The fees in the RP are;

Implementation Fee   P      1,000.00
Form    100.00
CRTV (Certificate of Residence for Temporary Visitor)
1,400.00
ACR (Alien Certificate of Registration)    1,000.00
Change of Status    600.00
Head Tax    250.00
Passport Visa    200.00
Legal Research Fee    50.00
Total    P      4,600.00
Express Lane Fee    500.00

http://immigration.gov.ph/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=106&Itemid=51 (http://immigration.gov.ph/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=106&Itemid=51)
Title: Re: 13a Visa - Get it before you're here or after?
Post by: bigrod on May 29, 2014, 07:01:59 PM
Applying for 13a(Probationary) while in the Philippines.  I have heard that it is a requirement to have a Police Clearance from your home country.  While checking the BI website today that is a requirement if you have been in the Philippines for less than six(6) months since your last arrival.  If more than six(6) months NBI Clearance will do.  This is on the general instructions/checklist.

Chuck

Title: Re: 13a Visa - Get it before you're here or after?
Post by: graham on May 30, 2014, 02:32:49 PM
Chuck,

I have the checklist in front of me, it states:

If the applicant has been in the Philippines for more than 6 months
he shall, in addition to his Police Clearance from his country
of origin or residence, prior to his arrival in the Phil., attach to the
application a National Bureau of Investigation (NBI) Clearance.

That's it, word for word. I've been here 7 years and went back to
Australia in Dec. to get the clearance and letter of financial capacity
so I can get my 13(a) sometime this year. I thought that I wouldn't
have to get an NBI clearance, but upon re-reading this and typing it
out for you, I re-interpreted it to mean that I have to. Dash it all,
who wants to queue up at NBI? But ...... I have an idea that somewhere
in the Forum is a post saying that now you can get NBI Clearance online!!!

Graham 
Title: Re: 13a Visa - Get it before you're here or after?
Post by: Shewmake on May 30, 2014, 03:25:13 PM
Before, for sure if you can manage it.
Title: Re: 13a Visa - Get it before you're here or after?
Post by: bigrod on May 30, 2014, 05:27:32 PM
BI FORM 2014-12-001 Rev 0 This document may be reproduced and is NOT FOR SALE
CONVERSION TO NON-QUOTA IMMIGRANT VISA
BY MARRIAGE (PROBATIONARY)
 
Website: www.immigration.gov.ph (http://www.immigration.gov.ph)
Email: xinfo@immigration.gov.ph
Facebook: officialbureauofimmigration
Twitter: immigrationPH
Page 1 of 3
 G E N E R A L I N S T R U C T I O N S
 
To avoid summary dismissal/delay in the processing of your application/petition,
please be advised of the following:
 
1. The Consolidated General Application Form (CGAF) is written in English language. Enter legibly all the information required
into the appropriate spaces on the form. If the information required is not applicable, please write “N/A”. Do not leave any
item blank. The Bureau will not act on application forms that are incomplete and incorrectly accomplished. Your answers
must be in English and all entries must be in CAPITAL LETTERS using English characters only. Letters like ñ, é, ü and ç
are not recognized by the system. For instance, please enter names like “Muñoz” and “Sémonin” as “Munoz” and
“Semonin” respectively.
2. The CGAF must be accomplished in two (2) ORIGINAL copies. The first copy shall be submitted together with all the
documents pertaining to this application and the second copy is intended for application of Alien Certificate of Registration
Identity Card (ACR I-Card) to be submitted in a separate folder.
3. All documents required for submission must be complied with, arranged in the order as listed in the Checklist of
Documentary Requirements (CDR), compiled in a legal size (8½ x 14 in.) folder and shall be submitted within the prescribed
period, if applicable. Otherwise, your application or petition shall not be accepted.
4. All sworn statements or affidavits must be original and duly notarized.
5. All civil registry documents issued in the Philippines (i.e. Birth Certificate, Marriage Certificate, Death Certificate, etc.) must
be original and issued by the National Statistics Office (NSO) of the Philippines.
6. All foreign documents must be original and authenticated by the Philippine Foreign Service Post (FSP), which has
jurisdiction over the place of issuance, or by the Department of Foreign Affairs (DFA) if said document is issued by the local
Embassy in the Philippines, with English translation if written in other foreign language.
7. If the application is filed by an authorized representative, attach a photocopy of the Bureau of Immigration (BI) Accreditation
Identification (ID) Certificate or an original Special Power of Attorney (SPA) for EACH applicant with a photocopy of a valid
government-issued ID of attorney-in-fact.
8. The original valid passport of the applicant must be submitted to the Central Receiving Unit (CRU) personnel or concerned
frontline officer for scanning. Thereafter, it shall be returned.
9. It is recommended that you seek legal advice from lawyers and/or BI-accredited entities.
 
- more at the back -
CHECKLIST OF DOCUMENTARY REQUIREMENTS FOR
CONVERSION TO NON-QUOTA IMMIGRANT VISA BY MARRIAGE (PROBATIONARY)
 
Please read carefully the above-stated General Instructions
before proceeding with the completion of the documentary requirements.
 
1. Joint letter request addressed to the Commissioner from the applicant and the petitioning Filipino spouse;
2. Duly accomplished CGAF (BI Form 2014-00-001 Rev 0);
3. Marriage Certificate or Marriage Contract;
4. Birth Certificate or certified true copy of BI-issued Identification Certificate as Filipino citizen of the Filipino spouse;
5. Photocopy of the Filipino spouse’s valid government-issued ID (i.e. Passport, SSS/GSIS ID/ PRC ID, Driver’s License,
TIN, or Voter’s ID);
6. Photocopy of passport bio-page and latest admission with valid authorized stay;
7. Valid Police Clearance from country of origin or residence, if the applicant has stayed in the Philippines for less than six
(6) months;
8. Valid National Bureau of Investigation (NBI) Clearance or National Intelligence Coordinating Agency (NICA) Clearance, if
the applicant has stayed in the Philippines for six (6) months or more from the date of latest arrival; and
9. BI Clearance Certificate.
 
Checklist of Documentary Requirements for EACH Dependent
 
1. Duly accomplished CGAF (BI Form 2014-00-001 Rev 0);
2. Photocopy of passport bio-page and latest admission with valid authorized stay
3. Birth Certificate/Family Register or its equivalent, evidencing the relationship with the petitioner;
4. Valid NBI Clearance or NICA Clearance for dependents 15 years of age or above, if he/she has stayed in the Philippines
for six (6) months or more from the date of latest arrival; and
5. BI Clearance Certificate.
 
[To be filled out by Authorized BI Personnel Only]
 
CERTIFICATION
 
This is to certify that the documents submitted in support of the application of _________________________________
 (Name of Applicant)
______________________________ are complete and in accordance with the provided checklist.
 
Central Receiving Unit Evaluator:
 
 
_______________________ ___________________
Signature over Printed Name Date
 
 
Note: Submission of additional supporting documents may be required by the Bureau for further verification and evaluation of application.
 
This is what is posted on the BI website and appears to be current as of March 2014.   Don't doubt you at all Graham, just saying what I saw.

Chuck
Title: Re: 13a Visa - Get it before you're here or after?
Post by: meylou on May 31, 2014, 02:24:26 AM

T SUBMISSION OF NBI CLEARANCES AND POLICE CLEARANCE FOR IMMIGRANT VISA APPLICATIONS
MEMORANDUM ORDER NO. RADJR-2012-028

           WHEREAS, the Philippine Immigration Act of 1940 (CA 613), as amended, mandates the Bureau as the agency principally responsible for the administration and enforcement of alien admission and registration laws;

WHEREAS, there is a need to ensure that the applicant for immigrant visas has no record of any derogatory information against him in any law enforcement agency;

WHEREAS, Sec. 3, CA 613, authorizes the Commissioner to issue such rules and regulations and from time to time, issue such instructions, not inconsistent with laws, as he shall deem best calculated to carry out the provisions of immigration laws;

NOW, THEREFORE, pursuant to the provisions of existing laws, applicants for immigrant visas including applicants for temporary resident visa shall submit the following clearances:
1.   If the applicant has been in the Philippines for less than six (6) months, he shall attach to his application a Police Clearance from his country of origin or residence duly authenticated by the Philippine Embassy / Consulate at the place of issuance or nearest to it, with English translation, if written in another foreign language.
2.   If the applicant has been in the Philippines for six (6) months or more, he shall, in addition to the Police Clearance from his country of origin or residence prior to his arrival in the Philippines, attach to his application a National Bureau of Investigation (NBI) clearance.
This requirements shall take effect 15 days from receipt of the Secretary, Department of Justice of the National Administrative Register (ONAR), U.P. Law Center, U.P. Diliman, Quezon City.
 
(Sgd) RICARDO A. DAVID, JR
Commissioner

Title: Re: 13a Visa - Get it before you're here or after?
Post by: graham on May 31, 2014, 11:50:48 AM
Online Application for NBI Clearance

http://enterdavao.blogspot.com/2014/01/nbi-clearance-online-application.html (http://enterdavao.blogspot.com/2014/01/nbi-clearance-online-application.html)

Graham
Title: Re: 13a Visa - Get it before you're here or after?
Post by: BC57 on April 16, 2015, 05:36:33 AM
Hi,
Reading about needing or not needing police clearance from the expats home country has my head spinning non stop, lol. I just went to the BI website and it says this. See underlined #8. Now I also saw somewhere on the internet where some guys posted a memorandum from the BI president saying we need police clearance from the expats home country no matter what, so what is the truth? I would think that the BI would have updated the checklist that they have posted on their own website by now if the memorandum was true. Thanks in advance.

7. Valid Police Clearance from country of origin or residence, if the applicant has stayed in the Philippines for less than six
(6) months;
8. Valid National Bureau of Investigation (NBI) Clearance or National Intelligence Coordinating Agency (NICA) Clearance, if the applicant has stayed in the Philippines for six (6) months or more from the date of latest arrival; and
9. BI Clearance Certificate.

BI FORM 2014-12-001 Rev 0 This document may be reproduced and is NOT FOR SALE
CONVERSION TO NON-QUOTA IMMIGRANT VISA
BY MARRIAGE (PROBATIONARY)
 
Website: [url=http://www.immigration.gov.ph]www.immigration.gov.ph[/url] ([url]http://www.immigration.gov.ph[/url])
Email: xinfo@immigration.gov.ph
Facebook: officialbureauofimmigration
Twitter: immigrationPH
Page 1 of 3
 G E N E R A L I N S T R U C T I O N S
 
To avoid summary dismissal/delay in the processing of your application/petition,
please be advised of the following:
 
1. The Consolidated General Application Form (CGAF) is written in English language. Enter legibly all the information required
into the appropriate spaces on the form. If the information required is not applicable, please write “N/A”. Do not leave any
item blank. The Bureau will not act on application forms that are incomplete and incorrectly accomplished. Your answers
must be in English and all entries must be in CAPITAL LETTERS using English characters only. Letters like ñ, é, ü and ç
are not recognized by the system. For instance, please enter names like “Muñoz” and “Sémonin” as “Munoz” and
“Semonin” respectively.
2. The CGAF must be accomplished in two (2) ORIGINAL copies. The first copy shall be submitted together with all the
documents pertaining to this application and the second copy is intended for application of Alien Certificate of Registration
Identity Card (ACR I-Card) to be submitted in a separate folder.
3. All documents required for submission must be complied with, arranged in the order as listed in the Checklist of
Documentary Requirements (CDR), compiled in a legal size (8½ x 14 in.) folder and shall be submitted within the prescribed
period, if applicable. Otherwise, your application or petition shall not be accepted.
4. All sworn statements or affidavits must be original and duly notarized.
5. All civil registry documents issued in the Philippines (i.e. Birth Certificate, Marriage Certificate, Death Certificate, etc.) must
be original and issued by the National Statistics Office (NSO) of the Philippines.
6. All foreign documents must be original and authenticated by the Philippine Foreign Service Post (FSP), which has
jurisdiction over the place of issuance, or by the Department of Foreign Affairs (DFA) if said document is issued by the local
Embassy in the Philippines, with English translation if written in other foreign language.
7. If the application is filed by an authorized representative, attach a photocopy of the Bureau of Immigration (BI) Accreditation
Identification (ID) Certificate or an original Special Power of Attorney (SPA) for EACH applicant with a photocopy of a valid
government-issued ID of attorney-in-fact.
8. The original valid passport of the applicant must be submitted to the Central Receiving Unit (CRU) personnel or concerned
frontline officer for scanning. Thereafter, it shall be returned.
9. It is recommended that you seek legal advice from lawyers and/or BI-accredited entities.
 
- more at the back -
CHECKLIST OF DOCUMENTARY REQUIREMENTS FOR
CONVERSION TO NON-QUOTA IMMIGRANT VISA BY MARRIAGE (PROBATIONARY)
 
Please read carefully the above-stated General Instructions
before proceeding with the completion of the documentary requirements.
 
1. Joint letter request addressed to the Commissioner from the applicant and the petitioning Filipino spouse;
2. Duly accomplished CGAF (BI Form 2014-00-001 Rev 0);
3. Marriage Certificate or Marriage Contract;
4. Birth Certificate or certified true copy of BI-issued Identification Certificate as Filipino citizen of the Filipino spouse;
5. Photocopy of the Filipino spouse’s valid government-issued ID (i.e. Passport, SSS/GSIS ID/ PRC ID, Driver’s License,
TIN, or Voter’s ID);
6. Photocopy of passport bio-page and latest admission with valid authorized stay;
7. Valid Police Clearance from country of origin or residence, if the applicant has stayed in the Philippines for less than six
(6) months;
8. Valid National Bureau of Investigation (NBI) Clearance or National Intelligence Coordinating Agency (NICA) Clearance, if
the applicant has stayed in the Philippines for six (6) months or more from the date of latest arrival; and
9. BI Clearance Certificate.
 
Checklist of Documentary Requirements for EACH Dependent
 
1. Duly accomplished CGAF (BI Form 2014-00-001 Rev 0);
2. Photocopy of passport bio-page and latest admission with valid authorized stay
3. Birth Certificate/Family Register or its equivalent, evidencing the relationship with the petitioner;
4. Valid NBI Clearance or NICA Clearance for dependents 15 years of age or above, if he/she has stayed in the Philippines
for six (6) months or more from the date of latest arrival; and
5. BI Clearance Certificate.
 
[To be filled out by Authorized BI Personnel Only]
 
CERTIFICATION
 
This is to certify that the documents submitted in support of the application of _________________________________
 (Name of Applicant)
______________________________ are complete and in accordance with the provided checklist.
 
Central Receiving Unit Evaluator:
 
 
_______________________ ___________________
Signature over Printed Name Date
 
 
Note: Submission of additional supporting documents may be required by the Bureau for further verification and evaluation of application.
 
This is what is posted on the BI website and appears to be current as of March 2014.   Don't doubt you at all Graham, just saying what I saw.

Chuck
Title: Re: 13a Visa - Get it before you're here or after?
Post by: coleman2347 on April 16, 2015, 01:05:08 PM
Just my opinion, had it been possible (I was not married when I came here) I would have for sure gotten my 13A in the states...for just one reason...If you get it in the states it is permanent, If you wait and get it here, you get a temporary 13a good for one year then have to get the Permanent one after a year....when you do that, its basically all the same stuff again...so you end up doing it twice...which though not impossible, is a serious pain in the butt.

Getting the US police clearance is not hard there, I had been here for over six months so it was a non issue..
Title: Re: 13a Visa - Get it before you're here or after?
Post by: BC57 on April 16, 2015, 09:58:18 PM
Hi,
Chuck is correct. I have read so many different responses across the internet on the police clearance from the foreigners home country. I emailed the BI directly mostly because I never saw that anyone has. Below is their email response back to me. Once you are in the PH for 6 months or longer "you don't need police clearance from your home country". I also contacted the BI through their facebook page and got the same response (see below). I also asked the BI if there was a new change to the checklist listed on their site and their response from their Operations Center said no change has been made (see below). The Operations Center sent a link below that goes to their site and once you review the checklist of requirements you will see that no police check is needed from the home country if you are in the PH for 6 months or more. I asked that question because some guy put up what looked like a blog report saying that the BI president put out a memorandum stating that everyone needed a police clearance also no matter if you were in the PH for more or less than 6 months. Apparently that blog was bogus just to create responses and get reactions to something that was false. So hopefully for the present time there shouldn't be anymore confusion about this topic but you know how the PH is, lol. ::)

On Apr 15, 2015, at 10:58 PM, Bureau of Immigration National Operations Center <binoc_immigration@hotmail.ph> wrote:

Dear Sir,

Please be informed that the there's no changes or additional requirements for immigrant visa by marriage. Please refer to our website thru this link http://immigration.gov.ph/images/ImmigrantVisasForms/ImmigrantVisaByMarriage/2014-12-001%20Rev%201%20Conversion%20to%20Non-Quota%20Immigrant%20by%20Marriage.pdf. (http://immigration.gov.ph/images/ImmigrantVisasForms/ImmigrantVisaByMarriage/2014-12-001%20Rev%201%20Conversion%20to%20Non-Quota%20Immigrant%20by%20Marriage.pdf.)

Should you have other immigration-related queries, please do not hesitate to call the BI Helpdesk Hotline at (632) 465-2400 and visit our website at www.immigration.gov.ph (http://www.immigration.gov.ph) or like us on Facebook: officialbureauofimmigration and follow us on Twitter: immigrationPH.

Thank you.

-rgm


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Email to BI Operations Center
> From: ---------
> Subject: question on NON-QUOTA IMMIGRANT VISA BY MARRIAGE 13 (a)
> Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2015 21:48:12 -0700
> To: binoc_immigration@hotmail.ph
>
> Hi,
> I was on the BI website and have question about checklist item 8. If a foreigner is in the PH for longer than 6 months he or she only needs to have an NBI clearance and BI clearance certificate, correct? Or is there a new change that requires this person to also get police clearance from their home country?
>
>
> 7. Valid Police Clearance from country of origin or residence, if the applicant has stayed in the Philippines for less than six (6) months;
>
> 8. Valid National Bureau of Investigation (NBI) Clearance, if the applicant has stayed in the Philippines for six (6) months or more from the date of latest arrival; and
>
> 9. BI Clearance Certificate.
>
> Thanks for your assistance,
>
> Charlie

Here is their second response from their facebook page.
   
Bureau of Immigration, Republic of the Philippines   1:33am Apr 16
correct sir NBI clearance and not police clearance from the point of origin if the applicant stayed in the Philippines for more than 6 months...................ACN/

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Chuck,

I have the checklist in front of me, it states:

If the applicant has been in the Philippines for more than 6 months
he shall, in addition to his Police Clearance from his country
of origin or residence, prior to his arrival in the Phil., attach to the
application a National Bureau of Investigation (NBI) Clearance.

That's it, word for word. I've been here 7 years and went back to
Australia in Dec. to get the clearance and letter of financial capacity
so I can get my 13(a) sometime this year. I thought that I wouldn't
have to get an NBI clearance, but upon re-reading this and typing it
out for you, I re-interpreted it to mean that I have to. Dash it all,
who wants to queue up at NBI? But ...... I have an idea that somewhere
in the Forum is a post saying that now you can get NBI Clearance online!!!

Graham
Title: Re: 13a Visa - Get it before you're here or after?
Post by: BC57 on April 18, 2015, 12:36:15 PM
Question if anyone knows, on the official BI Philippine website under the checklist for this visa showing financial support isn't required or listed yet at the Los Angeles Philippine Embassy they have this as a requirement. Why is it different?

The 13a visa is sometimes referred to as a spousal permanent residence visa.  It is for spouses of Philippine citizens and may obtained in your home country before relocating or obtained after you arrive in the Philippines.  If obtained in your home country, it is permanent beginning when you register it on arrival.  If you obtain it in the RP, it will be probationary for the first year and then you must go through the whole procedure again to make it permanent. 

For obtaining it in the US here is what the Honolulu Consulate has to say;

A non-quota immigrant visa may be granted to the spouse and unmarried children under 21 years of age of Philippine citizens (13A) and to former Filipinos who have already acquired foreign citizenships including their spouse and unmarried minor children (13G). Following are the requirements for a 13A visa:
 

Passport (valid at least 6 months from date of application)
Duly accomplished visa application form (Form 3)
Six (6) 2 x 2 photos, applicant’s signature on bottom front
Documentary evidence to prove spouse's or either parent's Philippine citizenship and to show applicant's relationship to the Philippine citizen such as original birth certificate, Philippine passport, marriage contract.
Medical Examination Report (FA Form 11 - available at the Consulate) duly accomplished by a licensed physician and whose signature must be duly notarized; together with a life-size chest x-ray film and laboratory reports (original and two (2) copies.) Medical Examination Report should not be more than six (6) months from the date of application.
Police Clearance Certificate - Please apply 15 days before date of departure for the Philippines at the following address:

Hawaii Criminal Justice Data Center
Kekuanao'a Bldg.,
465 South King St., Room 101
Honolulu, HI 96183
Tel No. (808) 587-3100 | (808) 745-4300

Evidence of sound financial status e.g. proof of real property, investment, bank certification, pension, notarized Affidavit of Support from a relative in the Philippines, attaching documents to substantiate declaration or claim
Personal Appearance for Interview
Visa Fee of $150 payable in cash or money order only

[url]http://www.philippineconsulatehonolulu.com/content/general-information-visas[/url] ([url]http://www.philippineconsulatehonolulu.com/content/general-information-visas[/url])



To obtain it once your in the RP here is what Immigration has to say;

13(A)    The wife or the husband or the unmarried child under twenty-one years of age of a Philippine citizen, if accompanying or following to join such citizen;

Checklist of Requirements for Non-Quota Immigrant by Marriage Under Section 13(a)

Duly notarized letter of application by the Filipino spouse;
General Application Form duly accomplished and notarized (BI Form No. MCL-07-01);
NSO authenticated copy of Birth certificate of Filipino spouse;
NSO authenticated copy of the Marriage Contract of alien and Filipino spouse or authenticated by the Philippine embassy/consulate nearest to or in the place where the marriage was solemnized;
Bureau of Immigration (BI) Clearance Certificate; and
Plain photocopy of passport of alien spouse showing dates of arrival and authorized stay.


[url]http://immigration.gov.ph/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=26&Itemid=35[/url] ([url]http://immigration.gov.ph/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=26&Itemid=35[/url])

The fees in the RP are;

Implementation Fee   P      1,000.00
Form    100.00
CRTV (Certificate of Residence for Temporary Visitor)
1,400.00
ACR (Alien Certificate of Registration)    1,000.00
Change of Status    600.00
Head Tax    250.00
Passport Visa    200.00
Legal Research Fee    50.00
Total    P      4,600.00
Express Lane Fee    500.00

[url]http://immigration.gov.ph/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=106&Itemid=51[/url] ([url]http://immigration.gov.ph/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=106&Itemid=51[/url])

Title: Re: 13a Visa - Get it before you're here or after?
Post by: bigrod on April 18, 2015, 01:04:02 PM
I was also just looking at that on the Phil Embassy USA site.  From checking old forum post and other forums it appears that financial data was required previously when applying for a 13a in the Philippines also.  Being retired military and on SS, I can get current pay certifications on line and if needed have them certified by the US Embassy her. I have used them to show income for Cignal, PLDT and BDO credit card without certification.
Title: Re: 13a Visa - Get it before you're here or after?
Post by: bigrod on April 20, 2015, 01:57:52 PM
I have also sent an email to BI yesterday requesting clarification, just received the answer which is the same as BC57 posted earlier.  In regards to the NBI clearance as of 1 Apr 2015 NBI now has an online payment and appointment system. So hopefully no waiting in a long line.
Title: Re: 13a Visa - Get it before you're here or after?
Post by: M.C.A. on April 21, 2015, 03:50:10 PM
Greg it only took me two months to get my 13a Visa package completed through the mail in the states, I kid you not and for those that do it here..... they drag out the process and like Coleman said, it's all that work for a probationary Visa and you end up doing it again next year with NBI clearances, I've never had to go through the NBI clearance, it's a huge waiting game and it can take from a year to two years to get a simple 13a Visa for some and what it comes down to is the dragging feet of the Bureaucracy, even if the wheels are greased they feel you might grease them some more, missing certified documents and for some not basically not knowing what to do here.

Best to get all your ducks in a row stateside and then bring your package with you, after that your still not done....LOL, you have within one week to report to the PBI for your Immigrant card, they'll still send you to their own doctor, these guys take from 1-2 hour lunch break and close their offices, boy it don't get better than this and by the end of the day your told to come back what amounts to two weeks later to get your Immigrant ID card.
Title: Re: 13a Visa - Get it before you're here or after?
Post by: bigrod on April 21, 2015, 04:13:45 PM
mcalleyboy,

GregW post is from Feb 2011, think he may have already resolved his problem.  Think he was one of our previous moderators.  Agree getting the 13a in your home country is the best idea.  Problem is some of us are not married to a Filipina before we come here, so we can not get a 13a in our home country.  Coleman also said he got the 13a(Prob) in 5 days less than 2 months and he applied in Tacloban not Manila.  The NBI clearance now has an online appointment/payment system, no more queuing up at 5 am.  I will be doing the 13a in manila during Jun.
Title: Re: 13a Visa - Get it before you're here or after?
Post by: BudM on April 21, 2015, 10:08:21 PM
Yeah Chuck.  I have never been there and had to dealt with it but supposedly, they have that office a lot nicer than the dump I heard it was and have also streamlined the process.
Title: Re: 13a Visa - Get it before you're here or after?
Post by: M.C.A. on April 22, 2015, 09:33:58 AM
I have to agree with you there the Philippine Bureau of Immigration has come a very long way from the day I showed up with my  Immigrant package in 2008, "Youuu-YOOOu, yoooooou, go over there and talk to that man"  Lol, every single window was occupied by very heavy older Philippine men and they didn't want to talk with foriegners but boy have times changed that and that's good thing, the main office in Manila is very friendly now, a much younger staff with many ladies, if anything I've heard complaining from expats while standing in line but they don't sound like Americans (UK), main complaint is keeping track and holding onto the receipt from your transaction.... God why can't they fix that simple issue?

I've also heard the NBI clearance made it easier for many expats that....like you said showed up here and eventually got married, after 6 months it's possible to fill the Police Clearance need with an NBI clearance.  Before many of the expats from the UK had to return to their homeland to full fill that requirement or those in the US had to contact family members stateside.
Title: Re: 13a Visa - Get it before you're here or after?
Post by: M.C.A. on June 04, 2016, 11:02:33 AM
Bigrod you have a point I was unaware at the time that some of the PBI Satellite offices can handle the 13a Visa, it's doable here for sure for those that retire here initially as single and then marry.

Another benefit is the lower cost of getting your physical done, I think my physical stateside cost me $500 plus...ooff my second physical I had done at the VA and didn't cost me anything.
Title: Re: 13a Visa - Get it before you're here or after?
Post by: bigrod on June 04, 2016, 03:50:45 PM
There is no physical(medical) requirement for a 13a if you apply here, from most countries.

Chuck
Title: Re: 13a Visa - Get it before you're here or after?
Post by: bigrod on June 08, 2016, 04:53:03 PM
As questioned in previous post reference financial support.  From post I have read online during your interview in the BI office you will be questioned about your financial situation at that time.  Most have not had to provide documentation, just to be safe I would take the documentation just in case.

Chuck
Title: Re: 13a Visa - Get it before you're here or after?
Post by: bigrod on June 08, 2016, 04:59:12 PM
FYI if you get the checklist/application from the BI website, use the Visa drop down from the header.  DO NOT use the drop down from the FAQ header it does not have the current revision of the checklist/application.

Chuck
Title: Re: 13a Visa - Get it before you're here or after?
Post by: sussexrob on December 10, 2016, 08:55:11 PM
Just returned from the Philippines after a 6 week vacation, still none the wiser about the 13a visa.  When in Gensan recently asked about the easiest way of going about it, and was told to go to Davao where I could get it sorted.
Going to the office with my wife in Davao, ended up losing my temper and walking out as the staff there seemed to give totally different information.  To be honest , they seemed to have a lack of knowledge of their own rules and regulations.
On getting back here I have contacted the Philippine Embassy in London, and also downloaded the application forms.   On there it states that the medical is a necessity, and with regards to the visa it is still for only a year, which then has to be renewed.
Are the rules when applying from the US different??
I just wish to do it properly, but at present am thinking of not bothering and just taking advantage of the BB privelege.

Is there any expats from the Uk there that have any help they can give me please??
Title: Re: 13a Visa - Get it before you're here or after?
Post by: Art, just a re(tired) Fil-Am on December 11, 2016, 12:45:12 AM
sussexrob,
If your wife is not yet a dual citizen, but is a British citizen, she can qualify for an SRRV COUTESY: for former Filipinos (35 yrs old and above) and add you on the application and start all the paperwork in the UK and finalize the process in 1 day at the PRA office in Manila. There's a 15 day waiting period before your passports and visas are ready for pick up. I myself have the Expanded SRRVisa for ex-military service members.
I know of a few couples who have gone that route instead of a 13A visa as long the Filipina spouse is not a dual citizen. If she is a dual citizen, disregard this post of mine, unless you had any military service, retired or not.
Read more here: http://tinyurl.com/jf6hygb (http://tinyurl.com/jf6hygb)
Title: Re: 13a Visa - Get it before you're here or after?
Post by: sussexrob on December 11, 2016, 01:52:41 AM
Thanks for the info Art, will read up a bit more on the subject with my wife, and decide the best way forward.
Title: Re: 13a Visa - Get it before you're here or after?
Post by: Terpe on January 02, 2017, 07:56:53 PM
Just returned from the Philippines after a 6 week vacation, still none the wiser about the 13a visa.  When in Gensan recently asked about the easiest way of going about it, and was told to go to Davao where I could get it sorted.
Going to the office with my wife in Davao, ended up losing my temper and walking out as the staff there seemed to give totally different information.  To be honest , they seemed to have a lack of knowledge of their own rules and regulations.
On getting back here I have contacted the Philippine Embassy in London, and also downloaded the application forms.   On there it states that the medical is a necessity, and with regards to the visa it is still for only a year, which then has to be renewed.
Are the rules when applying from the US different??
I just wish to do it properly, but at present am thinking of not bothering and just taking advantage of the BB privelege.

Is there any expats from the Uk there that have any help they can give me please??

Hello sussexrob,

I came here from UK November 2014 and entered under Balibayan 1year visa free period.
To be honest I originally planned to secure a 13a before leaving UK but as it happened I just couldn't get everything organised so decided to apply once here.
So although I can't offer solid info on getting it done it UK I can share my experiences of applying here.
As it happens I made my 13a applications in Davao BI office.

If you check out the BI webpage you'll see all the documents needed to make application here.
A few documents will need to be secured, certified and notorised the the FCO and the Philippine Embassy. Not a huge problem and can be done within a few weeks.

I was asked for quite a few documents not listed and almost got annoyed. Which doesn't help.

It may be less stressful to go the UK route.

BTW I now have Perm Residence, driving licence and BIR TIN number

My next big target is to renew my UK Passport. I'm not looking forward to that one given the horror stories of some folks
Title: Re: 13a Visa - Get it before you're here or after?
Post by: sussexrob on January 05, 2017, 09:43:02 PM
Thanks for the info Terpe,
I must admit I am still debating which route to go down.  I have the forms here at home ready to fill in.  My wife and I might just arrange a day in London, visit the Philippine Embassy and go from there.
I admit I am a little impatient, and my other half is always trying to get me to calm down and not stress out so much, so I have to take her with me everywhere , she is a big help with any language problems.
We plan to move sometime later this year to Davao, where we have bought some land and hope to build our dream home there. Currently have a house  and boarding house in Gensan , some of my family live there and look after it for us.
I have to buy some wheels as soon as I get there, and hopefully rent in Davao whilst getting the land sorted, so might just do what you did and take advantage of the bb privelege.

Thanks

Robert
Title: Re: 13a Visa - Get it before you're here or after?
Post by: David690 on January 05, 2017, 10:54:51 PM
Hi Rob

Seems our circumstances are somewhat similar.  I am in Davao at the moment.  Our house is just being completed and final handover will be be Jan 27th  We are based in Dubai and will move here full time sometime this year, before summer anyway.  I will try to get a 13a whilst still in Dubai but if it proves to be too complicated might also just opt for the BB and take things from there.
We didn't rent a car this time and whilst taxis are plentiful and cheap, it is not as convenient as having your own wheels, so that too will be first on the list next time we are here.  In fact I was at Ford dealership yesterday checking out the Ranger Wiltrak, awesome and definitely my next set of wheels.
Where did you buy your land?  We bought a lot is SP Golf and Leisure Estates.  Who knows, we may end up neighbors.
Cheers
Title: Re: 13a Visa - Get it before you're here or after?
Post by: sussexrob on January 06, 2017, 03:55:21 AM
Hi David,  We actually bought the land privately through a relation of ours.  It is in Catalunan Grande, right out of the way not far from St. pedro chapel.   Being an old orchard we had to wait for DAR clearance before getting the tiltle transferred into my wifes name.   Due to the time it took the certificate of title is still in the ROD waiting for us to pick up when we return in a couple of months, then we can get planning permission and start building.
I know what you mean about having your own wheels, recently spent too much time on the bus between Gensan and Davao,  I am looking forward to buying a vehicle to siut our needs.
Cheers
Title: Re: 13a Visa - Get it before you're here or after?
Post by: David690 on January 06, 2017, 06:42:41 AM
Small world, you cannot be more than 5 km from us.
It is nice area of Davao, away from the hustle and bustle of downtown.
Catch up with you at some point.
Cheers
Title: Re: 13a Visa - Get it before you're here or after?
Post by: Terpe on January 06, 2017, 09:39:27 PM
Thanks for the info Terpe,
I must admit I am still debating which route to go down.  I have the forms here at home ready to fill in.  My wife and I might just arrange a day in London, visit the Philippine Embassy and go from there.
I admit I am a little impatient, and my other half is always trying to get me to calm down and not stress out so much, so I have to take her with me everywhere , she is a big help with any language problems.
We plan to move sometime later this year to Davao, where we have bought some land and hope to build our dream home there. Currently have a house  and boarding house in Gensan , some of my family live there and look after it for us.
I have to buy some wheels as soon as I get there, and hopefully rent in Davao whilst getting the land sorted, so might just do what you did and take advantage of the bb privelege.

Thanks

Robert

I took advantage of the BB visa free for just under 3 months before submitting my 13a application.
As I recall all the papers need to less than 6 months old (or was it 3 months?) better to check on that.

If you can do it try to have a fairly new passport so that you don't need to renew before securing your 13a Permanent. Getting a renewed UK passport in short time isn't going to happen unless those folks have made some exceptional changes in leadtimes.

From memory, here are the forms I needed to present to BI at Davao:-

- ACRO Police Certificate for immigration purposes
look here https://www.acro.police.uk/police_certificates.aspx (https://www.acro.police.uk/police_certificates.aspx)

It will need to be legalised by FCO, Notarised, and certified by Phils Embassy London

- Marriage Certificate
If UK marriage see here https://www.gov.uk/order-copy-birth-death-marriage-certificate (https://www.gov.uk/order-copy-birth-death-marriage-certificate)
You'll also be asked for a copy of the Report of Marriage doc from Phil Embassy. To be honest this wasn't
documented on the BI website and we managed to smile our way out of it.
Again, legalised by FCO, Notarised, and certified by Phils Embassy London

If Philippines NSO certified copy.

- Divorce Docs, if any, legalised by FCO, Notarised, and certified by Phils Embassy London

I also took, certified copies of proof of income. Actually I never presented or submitted them
and I wasn't asked for any. But probably a good idea if you can.

We also had certified copies of my wife's British Naturalisation certifications and certified copies of
all passports held in our names.

Also certified copies of our birth certificates.

If you need certificates from NSO Philippines it's quite easy and quick to secure online from here
Here are the forms I needed to present to BI at Davao:-

- ACRO Police Certificate for immigration purposes
look here https://www.acro.police.uk/police_certificates.aspx (https://www.acro.police.uk/police_certificates.aspx)

It will need to be legalised by FCO, Notarised, and certified by Phils Embassy London

- Marriage Certificate
If UK marriage see here https://www.gov.uk/order-copy-birth-death-marriage-certificate (https://www.gov.uk/order-copy-birth-death-marriage-certificate)
You'll also be asked for a copy of the Report of Marriage doc from Phil Embassy. To be honest this wasn't
documented on the BI website and we managed to smile our way out of it.
Again, legalised by FCO, Notarised, and certified by Phils Embassy London

If Philippines NSO certified copy.

- Divorce Docs, if any, legalised by FCO, Notarised, and certified by Phils Embassy London

I also took, certified copies of proof of income. Actually I never presented or submitted them
and I wasn't asked for any. But probably a good idea if you can.

We also had certified copies of my wife's British Naturalisation certifications and certified copies of
all passports held in our names.

Also certified copies of our birth certificates.

Here are the forms I needed to present to BI at Davao:-

- ACRO Police Certificate for immigration purposes
look here https://www.acro.police.uk/police_certificates.aspx (https://www.acro.police.uk/police_certificates.aspx)

It will need to be legalised by FCO, Notarised, and certified by Phils Embassy London

- Marriage Certificate
If UK marriage see here https://www.gov.uk/order-copy-birth-death-marriage-certificate (https://www.gov.uk/order-copy-birth-death-marriage-certificate)
You'll also be asked for a copy of the Report of Marriage doc from Phil Embassy. To be honest this wasn't
documented on the BI website and we managed to smile our way out of it.
Again, legalised by FCO, Notarised, and certified by Phils Embassy London

If Philippines NSO certified copy.

- Divorce Docs, if any, legalised by FCO, Notarised, and certified by Phils Embassy London

I also took, certified copies of proof of income. Actually I never presented or submitted them
and I wasn't asked for any. But probably a good idea if you can.

We also had certified copies of my wife's British Naturalisation certifications and certified copies of
all passports held in our names.

Also certified copies of our birth certificates.

If you need certificates from NSO Philippines then it's easy and fast from here
https://www.ecensus.com.ph/Default.aspx (https://www.ecensus.com.ph/Default.aspx)
Title: Re: 13a Visa - Get it before you're here or after?
Post by: sussexrob on January 06, 2017, 09:48:39 PM
Thanks David,
Yes it seems that you are not far away from where we are planning to build.
My wife had been teaching in Davao when we first met, and it was her decision to live there.
I think it's because it's far  enough away from her family that they won't be on the doorstep every other day.
We love them visiting, but when in Gensan they sometimes turn up by the coachload, this can be a bit much , hence
moving a bit further away.
The security of a gated sub-division appeals in some ways,  but we decided to live a bit more in the countryside as the neighbours in Gensan are too noisy, and with the size of our plot they will not be too close.

Cheers
 
Title: Re: 13a Visa - Get it before you're here or after?
Post by: sussexrob on January 06, 2017, 09:56:19 PM
Thanks Terpe,
To be on the safe side, I think I'll get copies of everything that is possible to get.  I'll read the checklist a number of times before submitting anything, and go through all the forms more than once as well.
I also know I have to renew my passport as it runs out later this year, will do that in advance.
Thanks again
Title: Re: 13a Visa - Get it before you're here or after?
Post by: Terpe on January 06, 2017, 10:16:17 PM
Hi David,  We actually bought the land privately through a relation of ours.  It is in Catalunan Grande, right out of the way not far from St. pedro chapel.   

We lived 18 months not so far away from Catalunan Grande.
Sub-Division of Solariega at Puan Talomo and just a few mins walk from MacArthur Highway. Right opposite APO Golf club
Title: Re: 13a Visa - Get it before you're here or after?
Post by: David690 on January 06, 2017, 11:12:04 PM
Hi Terpe

It is indeed a small world.  There is another forum member here, Meylou, who has also just finished building a house in the same gated community that we are in.
Title: Re: 13a Visa - Get it before you're here or after?
Post by: Terpe on January 09, 2017, 08:28:13 PM
Hi Terpe

It is indeed a small world.  There is another forum member here, Meylou, who has also just finished building a house in the same gated community that we are in.

Personally I really enjoyed our life in Davao.
The food and the fruits were just wonderful. At nice prices too.

I'd often catch a jeep to Toril and buy stuff from the market. Wonderful fresh veggies and fruit and also fish in the covered wet market. So fresh and so cheap.

We decided to move here to Marikina City after that horrible drop in RoE with the British Pound.
We were renting in Davao, but have our own house here in Marikina. Didn't make sense to pay rent and have an empty house..
Overall we made the best decision. Luckily.

We often travel to Davao to keep personal contact with family and have fun. Flights with AirAsia are very cheap.
we now know how to be prepared for some long long delays though. Hehehe
Title: Re: 13a Visa - Get it before you're here or after?
Post by: gregpinton on December 10, 2018, 11:31:04 PM
Hi, i know this is an old topic, almost 2 years from the last post, however my question is also about the 13a visa, and i rather not create a new topic.

I have read in various articles on the internet that i should apply for the 13a visa from here in Australia rather that while in the Philippines, and if this is correct, i assume that once i have obtained the actual visa, i am free to travel there and begin living as a permanent resident, and i can work or run a business as well.

The following article i found interesting:  https://liveinthephilippines.com/13a-resident-visa/

Just curious though, if i was to return home at any time, i am not sure how long i need to be continuously out of the Philippines before the 13a visa will become invalid, as i will be required to return to Australia at least once (may even be twice) every year so i do not lose my old age pension that i am due to get in 5 years time (currently $700au per fortnight for each member of a couple)

It is our intention to have a new business set up in Palawan by the end of 2019, and because i am retired on medical grounds, and my wife is only 56 and still wants to work until she is 60, i will be the one staying in Palawan to run the business while my wife lives back home working, and she will fly over several times during the year for a few weeks here and there, then she will join me full time at the end of 2013.



Title: Re: 13a Visa - Get it before you're here or after?
Post by: bigrod on December 11, 2018, 08:07:14 AM
Greg,

You get a permanent visa versus a 1 year temporary visa by applying before you arrive.  So there is no restriction on when you leave and return.  It is my understanding you need to request permission to leave in advance on a temporary.  You register yearly in Jan-Feb for php 310 and renew ACR-I card every 5 years. While the visa is permanent it can be voided by the death of the Filipino spouse, separation, request of spouse, etc.

Chuck
Title: Re: 13a Visa - Get it before you're here or after?
Post by: Peter on December 11, 2018, 10:25:32 AM
Greg.

Chuck is correct in saying you will not have any restrictions on travel when you have the permanent 13A.

Two things to note.
1. When you apply through the Philippines Embassy in your country and are "approved", they will give you a large, sealed, envelope with all the necessary paperwork, to hand over to the BI here.

There is a time limit on when you must arrive in the Philippines with the "package" for the BI and also a time limit after arrival to hand it into Immigration. They used to give you up to 12 months to arrive and you had to submit the "package" within 5 days after you get here, but those time limits may have changed.

2. Not all BI offices can process the "pre-arranged" 13A. BI HQ in Intramuros does do "face-to-face", "over-the-counter" processing, and while some other offices may be authorised to collect the package and send to Intramuros for processing, most may not be authorised to handle this.

The Embassy in your country may not be aware of the latest BI procedures, as they (being part of the DFA) are only acting as an "agent" for the BI. So direct contact with the BI (they respond very quickly to queries on their "effBook" account) is highly advised to iron out any wrinkles before they occur.

Hope all goes well with your plans.

Peter
Title: Re: 13a Visa - Get it before you're here or after?
Post by: suzukig1 on December 11, 2018, 11:47:06 AM
If you have a 13A visa and you leave the PHL, you get a re-entry permit when you leave.  The re-entry permit is good for 1 year. 

If you stay out of the PHL for more than a year your re-entry permit will have expired.  You would have to go to immigration after entering the PHL to straighten everything out.

ECC, re-entry permit, etc. all can be done at the cashier at the airport.  All of the information required is stored on your permanent resident ACR-I card. 
Title: Re: 13a Visa - Get it before you're here or after?
Post by: gregpinton on December 11, 2018, 11:56:47 AM
Great news, thanks a lot guys, saved me from having to get on the phone and go thru all the stupid prompts to get thru to someone who could help answer all this for me, and everything you guys have mentioned seems to line up with the information i have since read about this 13a visa.

I have not seen anything mentioned about passports or citizenship, so with this permanent 13a visa, can i actually take on Filipino citizenship and get a Filipino passport, and if so, what would the process be ?

Or am i better to just stay as a permanent resident and retain my Australian status and passport.

Maybe i need to start another topic that focuses on what our intentions are for our plans there in the Philippines, then it would be a lot clearer for others to understand our situation, and may be able to offer advice.

Title: Re: 13a Visa - Get it before you're here or after?
Post by: Peter on December 11, 2018, 12:52:36 PM
Great news, thanks a lot guys, saved me from having to get on the phone and go thru all the stupid prompts to get thru to someone who could help answer all this for me, and everything you guys have mentioned seems to line up with the information i have since read about this 13a visa.

I have not seen anything mentioned about passports or citizenship, so with this permanent 13a visa, can i actually take on Filipino citizenship and get a Filipino passport, and if so, what would the process be ?

Or am i better to just stay as a permanent resident and retain my Australian status and passport.

Maybe i need to start another topic that focuses on what our intentions are for our plans there in the Philippines, then it would be a lot clearer for others to understand our situation, and may be able to offer advice.

Greg.

I'll try to answer some of your queries, not necessarily in order  :) :)

1. I would recommend retaining your Australian nationality, if only to protect your pensions from over there (who knows what rules they can put in place later for overseas pensioners?) and also not have to have a Philippines BIR tax liability.
(Edit. Liability on non-Filipino income I mean.)

2. 13A would appear to be the best way for you, based on what info you have shared. IMHO. You can conduct some business to a limited extent, but not as much as you can if you had, for example, an investor type of visa.

3. To apply for Philippines citizenship, doesn't require you to be here on a specific type of visa. Only that you fulfil their naturalisation requirements. Part of which is to give up your current nationality in favour of the Philippines.
This is a normal requirement in most countries. You can then re-apply to regain your Australian citizenship afterwards. If they will have you back that is  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

I've been here, doing not-a-lot, on a 13A for 10 years LOL!

HTHs.

Peter.


Title: Re: 13a Visa - Get it before you're here or after?
Post by: bigrod on December 11, 2018, 01:14:46 PM
You can get Filipino citizenship after 5 years residency and fluency in the language since you are married to a Filipino, 10 years residency if not married to a Filipino. 

https://www.lawphil.net/statutes/comacts/ca_473_1939.html (https://www.lawphil.net/statutes/comacts/ca_473_1939.html)

Chuck
Title: Re: 13a Visa - Get it before you're here or after?
Post by: gregpinton on December 12, 2018, 11:42:45 AM
I have read a lot of info last night about our age pension and our rights to obtaining that, and it appears that we must hold Aust citizenship to get the age pension, but on the age pension we can travel wherever/whenever we like, for as long as we like, and live outside Aust if we want to as well, they cannot take it away.

As far as running a business in Palawan under a 13a visa, i must have misread the info i found, as i assumed that i can own a business and run it myself, or is this not the case after all ?
Title: Re: 13a Visa - Get it before you're here or after?
Post by: Peter on December 12, 2018, 03:35:20 PM

..............................
As far as running a business in Palawan under a 13a visa, i must have misread the info i found, as i assumed that i can own a business and run it myself, or is this not the case after all ?

I have no interest in business, so my knowledge of the finer points of "alien" ownership in this sphere is minimal.

I would suggest, however, that you get in contact with the PRA (the Philippines Retirement Authority) < https://pra.gov.ph  > who have all the information on business ownership and the different types of visa, investor, 13A/G and others.

I have a friend who was contemplating doing something similar to what you want to do and he assures me that the PRA will give you all the latest rules and regulations pertaining to "aliens".

HTHs.

Peter