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Itís Your Money => Building in the Philippines => Topic started by: Paul B. on January 27, 2013, 01:08:18 AM

Title: Flooring: Wood Laminate vs. Tile?
Post by: Paul B. on January 27, 2013, 01:08:18 AM
The poor-quality wood laminate flooring in my condo is old, warped, and chipping apart. I'm planning to replace it soon with either tile or new wood laminate.

Wood laminate is a little cheaper than tile, looks somewhat simple to install (maybe simple enough to install myself?) but it has the problem of swelling/warping when wet. If I do go down this route, I will have to be extra careful not to spill anything on it.

Tile I think looks great and there are plenty of colors to choose from. It doesn't have the warping problem and seems easier to clean, but it can break/crack more easily if I drop something on it. It's also more expensive and the installation looks complicated (I'd have to hire an experienced tile setter).

Any thoughts or recommendations? I'm split 50/50 right now.
Title: Re: Flooring: Wood Laminate vs. Tile?
Post by: RUFUS on January 27, 2013, 01:59:05 AM
If the underfloor is concrete, use an epoxy paint.
It is very durable, very cheap, and comes in many colors.
Title: Re: Flooring: Wood Laminate vs. Tile?
Post by: BingColin on January 27, 2013, 10:51:40 AM
We were originally going to have tiles on the ground floor and wood strips on the second floor but eventually chose to go for all tiles. In the first few months we did have a number of hair line cracks appear on the second floor. This, we believe, was due partly to settlement and also insufficient cement under them. If you tap the tiles you get a hollow sound. If you drop something on a tile floor, the object will most likely break not the tile. Tiles are not difficult to lay, but it is also not expensive to hire someone to do it. You need tiles in the toilet and they are also better for the kitchen so I would recommend using tiles everywhere.
Title: Re: Flooring: Wood Laminate vs. Tile?
Post by: brett4gam on January 27, 2013, 01:09:43 PM
When we bought our two level condo we decided to put carpet upstairs, being a Facilities Manager in my former employment I have seen too many horror stories with water and a timber laminate floor.

Carpet is great, just have to use the vac on it a few times a week.  Downstairs has the originally laid cheap lino type tiles in the kitchen and the rest of the area.  The plan when we can afford it (quotes of about 70k PHP) is to replace the tiles in the kitchen and entry with real ceramic non slip tiles and carpet the rest of the place.  The hollow sound is because there is not enough cement mix under the tile, knows as a 'drummy' sound.

Have lived in places all tiled in the past and the dust balls rolling around the place sort of turned me off tiling everywhere.

Just my thoughts.

Cheers
Brett.
Title: Re: Flooring: Wood Laminate vs. Tile?
Post by: Paul B. on January 27, 2013, 01:30:13 PM
When we bought our two level condo we decided to put carpet upstairs, being a Facilities Manager in my former employment I have seen too many horror stories with water and a timber laminate floor.

Carpet is great, just have to use the vac on it a few times a week.  Downstairs has the originally laid cheap lino type tiles in the kitchen and the rest of the area.  The plan when we can afford it (quotes of about 70k PHP) is to replace the tiles in the kitchen and entry with real ceramic non slip tiles and carpet the rest of the place.  The hollow sound is because there is not enough cement mix under the tile, knows as a 'drummy' sound.

Have lived in places all tiled in the past and the dust balls rolling around the place sort of turned me off tiling everywhere.

Just my thoughts.

Cheers
Brett.
Interesting. I might have to look into carpet as an option.
Title: Re: Flooring: Wood Laminate vs. Tile?
Post by: paulgee on January 27, 2013, 06:17:30 PM
I would follow Colins lead. Our house was built with tile flooring downstairs and wood flooring upstairs (excluding bathrooms). If we had been there during the build we would have gone for tiles upstairs, the wood flooring we have is dark and rather  oppressive. We may replace it one day, when funds allow.

I also assume that the reason tiles are generally used is that they make the rooms cooler, which is why you don't see carpeted rooms in houses in hot countries, presumably they retain the heat. Here in the UK rooms with carpets are always warmer than ones with hard flooring.

Paul
Title: Re: Flooring: Wood Laminate vs. Tile?
Post by: FMSINC on January 27, 2013, 06:49:27 PM
Use Tile one of the main problems with carpet here is the high humidity and dampness caused if you air condition the room at night in a few months you l have mold growing under the carpet much worse then a few dust balls

Tiles will b cheaper cooler and last longer also

Tom/ Roxas City
Title: Re: Flooring: Wood Laminate vs. Tile?
Post by: Art, just a re(tired) Fil-Am on January 27, 2013, 10:46:13 PM
We have 18"X18" man made imitation polished granite tiles downstairs and upstairs we have assorted shades of "Nara" hardwood 3/8"X3"X9" floor planks with a shiny polyurethane clear coat finish. Been 12 yrs now and all is still in good condition! A few of the tiles though have air pockets underneath them, but haven't developed any cracks yet! 
Title: Re: Flooring: Wood Laminate vs. Tile?
Post by: Gray Wolf on January 29, 2013, 01:16:41 AM
Carpeting?  No way with the humidity involved, even with air con. 

We tiled the entire first floor of the family house.  The second floor is concrete, sealed, then painted with an epoxy based paint to give it a soft color.  All floors are kept spotless using the soft walis style broom.   Both floors are easy to clean, impervious to humidity and durable. 

I wouldn't go any other way unless I had the money to build and maintain a mansion, then I'd try hardwood floors upstairs, but never carpeting.  Tom is spot on with the mold problem.

 
Title: Re: Flooring: Wood Laminate vs. Tile?
Post by: brett4gam on January 29, 2013, 09:15:27 AM
No carpet, ok, too much humidity? New York now is 1 degree celcius with 92% humidity, so that means that no one in New York should have carpet?

Manila is currently has 74% humidity.

2 years here in our place now AND NO MOULD.  Go figure.  (And before the spelling Nazi's have a go at me, that is how the word is spelt in my part of the world, British English, so don't bother telling me I have it incorrect.)

If mould is perceived to be such a problem in Philippines why is it used in hotels then?

BK

Title: Re: Flooring: Wood Laminate vs. Tile?
Post by: FMSINC on January 29, 2013, 03:32:33 PM
Glad you like your carpet the one person I know that has it in our are has a mold problem with it

With tile you have a clean floor as you can clean it, plus no odor and stains. Maybe you like your carpet because it reminds you of the Smell of New York City

To Each His Own

Tom / Roxas City
Title: Re: Flooring: Wood Laminate vs. Tile?
Post by: brett4gam on January 29, 2013, 04:39:10 PM
Glad you like your carpet the one person I know that has it in our are has a mold problem with it

With tile you have a clean floor as you can clean it, plus no odor and stains. Maybe you like your carpet because it reminds you of the Smell of New York City

To Each His Own

Tom / Roxas City

I am Australian, never visited U.S.A.  Carpet is common all throughout Australia, including the areas that have high humidity. 

Was just my comment on being comfortable, perhaps it costs too much here for carpet.

I refrain from commenting more as it has been previously pointed out to me that I make too many posts and comments, even though my comments and questions referred to my not understanding many of the American terms and sayings.

BK



Title: Re: Flooring: Wood Laminate vs. Tile?
Post by: BudM on January 29, 2013, 05:16:09 PM
Oh crap.
Title: Re: Flooring: Wood Laminate vs. Tile?
Post by: RUFUS on January 29, 2013, 11:42:24 PM
I refrain from commenting more as it has been previously pointed out to me that I make too many posts and comments, even though my comments and questions referred to my not understanding many of the American terms and sayings.

BK
As long as you are following forum rules...
Post all the questions and comments you want, that's what the forum is here for.
Title: Re: Flooring: Wood Laminate vs. Tile?
Post by: graham on February 04, 2013, 12:33:58 PM
When we bought our two level condo we decided to put carpet upstairs, being a Facilities Manager in my former employment I have seen too many horror stories with water and a timber laminate floor.

Carpet is great, just have to use the vac on it a few times a week.  Downstairs has the originally laid cheap lino type tiles in the kitchen and the rest of the area.  The plan when we can afford it (quotes of about 70k PHP) is to replace the tiles in the kitchen and entry with real ceramic non slip tiles and carpet the rest of the place.  The hollow sound is because there is not enough cement mix under the tile, knows as a 'drummy' sound.

Have lived in places all tiled in the past and the dust balls rolling around the place sort of turned me off tiling everywhere.

Just my thoughts.

Cheers
Brett.

Brett,

Just a thought, you live in Manila right? Are there any carpet places you have seen? I am reasonably certain there is no dealer of room-size carpet here in CDO City. I have seen those imitation Persian carpets at SM, which just look hideous.

I had genuine wool carpets at home. Those were the type you put say, under the dining table and down in the Sala. Horribly expensive, I sold them before I came here, much to my regret. Although, with my house here built on sand, and tracking sand inside, impossible to keep out, I suppose it would have destroyed them in no time.

Graham

Title: Re: Flooring: Wood Laminate vs. Tile?
Post by: brett4gam on February 04, 2013, 01:37:41 PM
Hi Graham

There is an outlet for the carpet rugs that you mentioned at the Robinson's Mall just down the road, I agree, they don't look all that good.

I am not sure where the carpet came from as the contractor arranged it, but it was delivered in a roll similar to back home and laid with a foam underlay of reasonable quality.

If you like I can inquire from the contractor who they used to supply and lay the carpet.  Same method used ie: smoothedge and laying technique.

Cheers
Brett
Title: Re: Flooring: Wood Laminate vs. Tile?
Post by: richardsinger on February 06, 2013, 10:49:15 PM
I'd go for the tile solution. Ceramic tiles can be cheap or expensive or in between. But get an experienced guy to lay them for you so they will last for years. Ask friends for recommendations if you don't know anybody. The going rate in my area is 300 - 500 pesos per day.

Richard
Title: Re: Flooring: Wood Laminate vs. Tile?
Post by: Murphy on February 06, 2013, 11:31:40 PM
I stayed at a couple places my last visit.
Carpeted rooms were smelly....damp and whatever came in contact with them....they sprayed the heck out of them before letting me in the room....still didnt work.

The next place had tile floors.....much better....plus the A/C cools them down...cool to touch....and no lingering smells.

Murph
Title: Re: Flooring: Wood Laminate vs. Tile?
Post by: Gray Wolf on February 07, 2013, 05:54:55 AM

I refrain from commenting more as it has been previously pointed out to me that I make too many posts and comments, even though my comments and questions referred to my not understanding many of the American terms and sayings.

BK

Brett, that's BS.  No one has told you that you post too much.  If you want carpeting, go for it.  Put it on your walls if you like.  We're just giving you our opinions and options.   8)   
Title: Re: Flooring: Wood Laminate vs. Tile?
Post by: graham on February 13, 2013, 02:58:51 PM
Hi Graham

There is an outlet for the carpet rugs that you mentioned at the Robinson's Mall just down the road, I agree, they don't look all that good.

I am not sure where the carpet came from as the contractor arranged it, but it was delivered in a roll similar to back home and laid with a foam underlay of reasonable quality.

If you like I can inquire from the contractor who they used to supply and lay the carpet.  Same method used ie: smoothedge and laying technique.

Cheers
Brett

Brett, I've been sick with the flu mate, so am a bit tardy replying to you.
Thanks mate, but I was just curious about the availability of carpet here.
I would not have thought it was popular in this climate.
Would not be good in my house as my yard consists of sand. Cannot help
tracking it into the house. Can you imagine the state of the carpet after a while?
No "Dyson" bagless cleaners in CDO as far as I'm aware. Can you imagine trying
to find bags here on CDO?? Not much chance of that I would think.

Graham

Funnily enough, I was looking at vacuum cleaners