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Contributions By Members => Central Philippines VISAYAS => Topic started by: JoeLP on November 09, 2014, 01:44:39 PM

Title: More foreigners here than I thought.
Post by: JoeLP on November 09, 2014, 01:44:39 PM
So when I moved in July '13 to Catarman, Tina tells me there are 3 other foreigners living in the area.  A baptist pastor/missionary, and two Germans.   Well, in the storm last November, one of the Germans decided to go swimming and drowned.  So now down to just 3 of us left. 

Then a friend of Tina's and mine moves to Bobon, a neighboring town.  Then when I went to a supper at his house, there are like 8 other foreigners.  Now, granted, they are from San Jose and Bobon, still, I learn that there are even more that couldn't show  up.  Then I learn/was invited to that there is a weekly get-together in Bobon. 

Been living here 15 months thinking I'm one of 3 foreigners in the area then this hits.  LOL  Happy about it, but learned that Tina only knows everyone in Catarman, not much outside that. 
Title: Re: More foreigners here than I thought.
Post by: cvgtpc1 on November 10, 2014, 12:56:01 AM
I always thought I was the only one when we vacation in the Lawaan E. Samar area south of you but eventually learned of a NZer and a Canadian in the area.  Fiesta brings in more from out of town.

These smaller places don't have any places like malls, restaurants, bars to congregate at so I think that's why its hard to find them unless there's a family connection.

Title: Re: More foreigners here than I thought.
Post by: Art, just a re(tired) Fil-Am on November 10, 2014, 01:16:25 AM
Well, there are people who prefer their privacy living in solitude in their own secluded area they consider their own piece of paradise even though they don't have any places like malls, supermarkets, restaurants and or bars to congregate at! It's all about each to their own lifestyle!
Title: Re: More foreigners here than I thought.
Post by: Killjoygreg on November 10, 2014, 08:22:45 AM
There are many foreigners in most areas that you wouldn't realize. Not all want to be friendly or even known. Some are very reclusive and don't appreciate company. In a country like the Philippines it's so easy to blend in and be forgotten. Most of these people are fine. You will never find them on social media or sites like this one.
Title: Re: More foreigners here than I thought.
Post by: Steve & Myrlita on November 10, 2014, 12:19:18 PM
There are many foreigners in most areas that you wouldn't realize. Not all want to be friendly or even known. Some are very reclusive and don't appreciate company. In a country like the Philippines it's so easy to blend in and be forgotten. Most of these people are fine. You will never find them on social media or sites like this one.
Yes I've noticed the same. Once in awhile, I encounter a friendly one who wants to make friends but more often I find that they just look down or the other way and pretend they don't see or hear you. I find that outright rude and ignorant. Sorry but it's the truth. God Bless......
Title: Re: More foreigners here than I thought.
Post by: cvgtpc1 on November 10, 2014, 01:08:42 PM
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Yes I've noticed the same. Once in awhile, I encounter a friendly one who wants to make friends but more often I find that they just look down or the other way and pretend they don't see or hear you. I find that outright rude and ignorant. Sorry but it's the truth. God Bless......

I used to feel the same but the more I see the more I think maybe they're not the type of people I want to be around...

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Title: Re: More foreigners here than I thought.
Post by: coleman2347 on November 10, 2014, 01:25:35 PM

Yes I've noticed the same. Once in awhile, I encounter a friendly one who wants to make friends but more often I find that they just look down or the other way and pretend they don't see or hear you. I find that outright rude and ignorant. Sorry but it's the truth. God Bless......
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I used to feel the same but the more I see the more I think maybe they're not the type of people I want to be around...
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It seems that we all mostly have the same experiences, most I see in the mall just turn away...and the ones that I do meet seem to be the type that always complain about being here and think they are better than everybody else. I guess thats one of the reasons all my friends here are Filipino...
I do however, hope to meet some of the folks on this forum, as it seems that we usually have a lot in common..Lee
Title: Re: More foreigners here than I thought.
Post by: cogon88 on November 10, 2014, 01:31:58 PM
Remember that over 60% of tourists coming here are sex tourists

I think that is why many are not interested in meeting anyone they are usually on a circuit meeting girls they have meet on line and are traveling to several towns for to meet as many girls as possible before heading home no time to meet other foreigners be happy that you did not get to know them.



Title: Re: More foreigners here than I thought.
Post by: JoeLP on November 10, 2014, 03:49:54 PM
Remember that over 60% of tourists coming here are sex tourists

I think that is why many are not interested in meeting anyone they are usually on a circuit meeting girls they have meet on line and are traveling to several towns for to meet as many girls as possible before heading home no time to meet other foreigners be happy that you did not get to know them.
While at the meal talking with the guys they mentioned a foreigner that lives between Catarman and Babon that only leaves the house to walk now days.  when he first moved here he'd only shop for food in the smaller markets in Babon and San Jose.  He's a retired US Navy man who is a major recluse that is rarely seen and has his wife do all the shopping and other things needing done.
Don't know how a person can live that way but it happens.
Title: Re: More foreigners here than I thought.
Post by: coleman2347 on November 10, 2014, 04:53:58 PM
Sometimes I feel like a recluse spending so much time on the computer .....
Title: Re: More foreigners here than I thought.
Post by: Art, just a re(tired) Fil-Am on November 10, 2014, 05:30:24 PM
I do it too, I mean spending so much time on my computer and watching TV on our 32" LED TV (we do have a 55" LED TV downstairs), since our bedroom is the only coolest part in our home with our A/C running 24/7! I like my creature comfort!
We do get out of the house once and in a while besides vacations 2 to 3 times a year!
To get back on topic, there's lots of foreigners where we live and we have pot luck dinners at least twice a month with neighbors/friends in our gated subdivision!   
Title: Re: More foreigners here than I thought.
Post by: JoeLP on November 10, 2014, 06:01:17 PM
I do it too, I mean spending so much time on my computer and watching TV on our 32" LED TV (we do have a 55" LED TV downstairs), since our bedroom is the only coolest part in our home with our A/C running 24/7! I like my creature comfort!
We do get out of the house once and in a while besides vacations 2 to 3 times a year!
To get back on topic, there's lots of foreigners where we live and we have pot luck dinners at least twice a month with neighbors/friends in our gated subdivision!
Sounds like you got it figured out Art.  That's good and I'm happy you and yours found a way to live your life in a happy way.  I hope I didn't come across as saying the way you live is wrong.  To each their own and that's a good thing.  Makes the world go around.
I was talking more when I mentioned what I did in a few posts back that if the foreigner moves here, and doesn't get into a community like yours and instead tries to mesh with the locals, don't bitch about it.  Those foreigners drive me nuts.  They act as if this country, with it's people, should all change everything that is their customs and ways, because some foreigners don't like it.  Not a knock on those who choose to live in communities with others of like mind.  Hope you get what I was going at. 
Title: Re: More foreigners here than I thought.
Post by: Art, just a re(tired) Fil-Am on November 10, 2014, 10:08:41 PM
I do it too, I mean spending so much time on my computer and watching TV on our 32" LED TV (we do have a 55" LED TV downstairs), since our bedroom is the only coolest part in our home with our A/C running 24/7! I like my creature comfort!
We do get out of the house once and in a while besides vacations 2 to 3 times a year!
To get back on topic, there's lots of foreigners where we live and we have pot luck dinners at least twice a month with neighbors/friends in our gated subdivision!
Sounds like you got it figured out Art. That's good and I'm happy you and yours found a way to live your life in a happy way.  I hope I didn't come across as saying the way you live is wrong. To each their own and that's a good thing. Makes the world go around.
I was talking more when I mentioned what I did in a few posts back that if the foreigner moves here, and doesn't get into a community like yours and instead tries to mesh with the locals, don't bitch about it, those foreigners drive me nuts. They act as if this country, with it's people, should all change everything that is their customs and ways, because some foreigners don't like it. Not a knock on those who choose to live in communities with others of like mind. Hope you get what I was going at.
Yes, I figured it all out through trial and error over the years! As you mentioned, it's all about each to one's own preferred lifestyle of living where ever one chooses to live!   
Title: Re: More foreigners here than I thought.
Post by: Shewmake on November 11, 2014, 08:09:08 AM
Here in Cavite from Dasmarinas to Tagatay ,and down to where Art is in Santa Rosa Laguna, we expats are as thick as flies it seems. It may be the slightly cooler climate, but it feels like more are moving here all the time. Another American just finished his house in our subdivision. Like many when we started coming here 20 plus years ago, you would not see another expat hardly ever, but now . . . . It is good for the local economies.
Title: Re: More foreigners here than I thought.
Post by: M.C.A. on November 12, 2014, 07:50:07 AM
There are many foreigners in most areas that you wouldn't realize. Not all want to be friendly or even known. Some are very reclusive and don't appreciate company. In a country like the Philippines it's so easy to blend in and be forgotten. Most of these people are fine. You will never find them on social media or sites like this one.

Glad you brought that up Killjoygreg, most of the expats in my area won't look at me, know I'm there but won't even acknowledge I'm there, seen a younger expat man with his head bowed down once, boy I wanted to tell him to straighten up and get a set of "_ _ _ _" his women and clan looked like they were in charge for sure. 

Run into expats at the LTO office also but they say nothing.  I've also noticed an unusual trend at the grocery stores, I will see an older expat shopping around but he buys nothing, sometimes accompanied and other times not they ignore me in the grocery but end up standing and waiting as I exit the grocery counter, they look chatty then, trouble is that they buy nothing in the store and spend an hour plus walking around inside it.
Title: Re: More foreigners here than I thought.
Post by: trev. on November 12, 2014, 10:54:12 AM
Where i am in North Luzon i am seeing more and more foreigners. But they all seems so unfriendly. Will never make eye contact. That is quite okay with me even though i would love to at least say Hi. How are you.Saw one young guy and he was very friendly. Smile and did say hi. Many Mormons around here, mostly young guys walking on the street.
I have one American friend who is a manager at one of the mining site here. He is a retired Vet.
Title: Re: More foreigners here than I thought.
Post by: JoeLP on November 12, 2014, 07:34:37 PM
So I was out walking today.  I found my head down for a bit and thought of this thread.  Had to laugh outloud probably making me look crazy to some.  But the sidewalks can be so uneven here and after busing my toes and drawing blood a few times(wear sandals) I look down more now to keep that from happening. 

I'm sure most of you are not playing on guys doing that as I see those guys also in malls and other places where there is no need to look down or away from other foreigners. 
Title: Re: More foreigners here than we thought!!!!!!!
Post by: Art, just a re(tired) Fil-Am on November 12, 2014, 07:59:21 PM
Yes! There are more foreigners in the Philippines than we all thought, but BI stated that there are 1.2 million foreigners in the country, but only 200,000 are currently registered with the BI!
So, does that mean the foreigners with their heads always looking down and or avoiding eye contact, except for JoeLP are any of those in the one million foreigners not registered with the BI? 
Maybe that's why the BI made it open season for Filipino bounty hunters to turn in over staying foreigners at P2,000 per head reward money!
So, JoeLP and others on here, stand up straight with heads up while walking in public and you all won't be under suspicion of being an over staying foreigner by a Filipino bounty hunter for the BI!  ::) ??? :o
Title: Re: More foreigners here than I thought.
Post by: cvgtpc1 on November 12, 2014, 10:03:29 PM
So I was out walking today.  I found my head down for a bit and thought of this thread.  Had to laugh outloud probably making me look crazy to some.  But the sidewalks can be so uneven here and after busing my toes and drawing blood a few times(wear sandals) I look down more now to keep that from happening. 

You have to!  Busted myself up really bad tripping in Angeles last Jan.  Last time I wore sandals on the street, shoes only now.

On my first trip it really put me off being ignored by expats, figured we're one happy family!  Now don't even notice them.

Can occasionally strike up a casual conversation at a hotel pool or a guy sitting next to me at an outdoor bar but that's it.
Title: Re: More foreigners here than I thought.
Post by: Shewmake on November 20, 2014, 03:49:08 PM
In our subdivision there are about twelve expats from Europe and the North America, about twenty Korean, and another hundred plus Filipinos and Balikbayans. About half of the expats are friendly and we play pool and drink beer once a week. We run into the some expats shopping, and as others have said they avoid eye contact, and even when they do, they just nod. I have on occasion tried to strike up a conversation with expats I meet, but like many have said, some just don't want to for whatever reason. To each his own-- I guess.