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Title: What happens when Microsoft ends Windows 7 mainstream support next year
Post by: Lee2 on August 19, 2015, 11:30:37 PM
Nothing until 2020 and beyond. I am sticking with 7, many people are even still using XP without any apparent problems.

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On January 13, 2015, Microsoft will stop mainstream support for Windows 7--which is still an extremely popular operating system. But you'll still be able to use it safely for another five years.

This isn't anything like the run-up to the end of XP support back in April, when everyone in the tech press (including me) warned you about dire consequences if you continued to use XP. That was the end of extended support, which is far more serious than the end of mere mainstream support.

Once mainstream support ends, there will be no more service packs. Microsoft won't redesign the environment or add new features. Without a special extended agreement, you won't get patches for bugs that don't result in a security threat.

But if you like Windows 7, you probably don't really need new service packs, and you certainly don't want a redesigned user interface. As long as Microsoft patches vulnerabilities that could become security risks, Windows 7 remains a safe operating system.

Microsoft doesn't plan to stop fixing security problems in Windows 7 until extended support ends. That's January 14, 2020--five years and a day from the end of mainstream support.

If that doesn't put you at ease, consider this: XP's mainstream support ended in April, 2009. It caused no problems whatsoever. Millions continued to use XP for another five years without people like me warning them of dire consequences. Windows 7 won't be any different.

Vista mainstream support  ended on April 10, 2012. Extended support will end on April 11, 2017, so you can continue to use Vista for another two and a half years plus. [This paragraph was added on August 29, in reaction to reader queries.]
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Title: Re: What happens when Microsoft ends Windows 7 mainstream support next year
Post by: coleman2347 on August 20, 2015, 07:30:46 AM
I used xp until I came here in 2011, Im presently using Windows 7 and will continue to use it until this computer dies..the only time I have ever up graded is when I bought a new computer and a new version of windows came on it.
Fortunately I never had a computer with vista and from what I hear that was a good thing..but then I readily admit Im computer stupid  and if I turn it on and it works, Im happy
Title: Re: What happens when Microsoft ends Windows 7 mainstream support next year
Post by: JoeLP on August 20, 2015, 05:44:33 PM
Right now microsoft is offering free upgrades to Windows 10.  Tina is downloading it now as I write this.  Just google "microsoft essentials" and join that to get the emails sent to you for all upgrades.  I'm waiting for her to get it installed to make sure I like it.  I love all the reviews I've seen of it.  If it's as good as I'm hoping, tomorrow my laptop will be downloading and installing it also. 
Title: Re: What happens when Microsoft ends Windows 7 mainstream support next year
Post by: brett4gam on August 21, 2015, 08:02:12 AM
G'day all,

I upgraded from Windows 7 Ulitmate to Windows 10 about a week and a half ago.  It downloaded and installed without a hitch, which is good as I am not that handy with computers.

So far the experience has been great.  Many improvements that I can see and nothing hasn't worked as it is supposed to.


Cheers
Brett
Title: Re: What happens when Microsoft ends Windows 7 mainstream support next year
Post by: Art, just a re(tired) Fil-Am on August 21, 2015, 08:46:58 AM
Sounds encouraging Brett. I too am not a computer savvy kind of a guy.
I'll wait awhile though before switching to Windows 10. I still like Vista, user friendly!  ::) ??? ;)
Title: Re: What happens when Microsoft ends Windows 7 mainstream support next year
Post by: mikbal on August 23, 2015, 12:46:08 PM
Brett,
    When you upgraded, were you able to retain all your data? After installing 10, did you have any issues with any non-Microsoft apps?

Mike
Title: Re: What happens when Microsoft ends Windows 7 mainstream support next year
Post by: iamjames on August 23, 2015, 01:07:22 PM
Problem is that if you buy a PC in most Asian countries it will be a pirated version of windows (if any) installed. Thus you must switch off updates or the copy is detected and you have 70 days to correct  ???
Just curious tho - should I try to upgrade/update and see if they give me 10? Ill be buying another next week so Ill experiment with this one.
Title: Re: What happens when Microsoft ends Windows 7 mainstream support next year
Post by: FMSINC on August 23, 2015, 07:22:23 PM
Interesting Article on Windows 10 I would watch what you put on it as passwords can be read anytime by Microsoft

http://www.rt.com/politics/313032-senior-russian-lawmaker-seeks-ban/ (http://www.rt.com/politics/313032-senior-russian-lawmaker-seeks-ban/)

The State Duma’s vice speaker has asked the Russian government to ban the use of the Windows 10 OS among Russian civil servants over fears the American software may give access to classified information and Russian officials’ personal data.
In his letter to Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev, MP Nikolai Levichev of the center-left Fair Russia party said the service agreement signed by any Windows 10 users allows Microsoft to access all passwords, password prompts and other information used for data protection. The US corporation also receives other types of data, from users’ contacts, their emails and even location.

Microsoft warns that the received information will be stored and processed in the United States or any other country for an indefinite period of time and transferred to US state agencies.

READ MORE: ‘No matter what platform you use, it’s all under surveillance’

Levichev has therefore asked Medvedev to consider a complete ban on the Windows 10 operating system in Russia’s bodies of state power, state-owned corporations, and state-sponsored scientific and research institutions. The MP has also sent a letter to the head of the Russian internet watchdog Roskomnadzor, Aleksander Zharov, asking whether Microsoft’s user service agreement contravenes Russian laws.

Title: Re: What happens when Microsoft ends Windows 7 mainstream support next year
Post by: cvgtpc1 on August 24, 2015, 05:23:31 AM
Problem is that if you buy a PC in most Asian countries it will be a pirated version of windows (if any) installed. Thus you must switch off updates or the copy is detected and you have 70 days to correct  ???
Just curious tho - should I try to upgrade/update and see if they give me 10? Ill be buying another next week so Ill experiment with this one.

I've got the same version issue but have the icon to upgrade so wonder would happen if I do....

I already have on a legal version on a laptop I have and wifi cuts out, didn't with Win7 on the same laptop.
Title: Re: What happens when Microsoft ends Windows 7 mainstream support next year
Post by: brett4gam on August 25, 2015, 08:32:47 AM
Brett,
    When you upgraded, were you able to retain all your data? After installing 10, did you have any issues with any non-Microsoft apps?

Mike

mikbal

Yes, all my data was exactly where it was prior to the upgrade and everything worked as it did prior as well, including non MS apps.

The biggest thing I see is the appearance of things, also seems to run a bit smoother than Win 7 Ultimate.  Easier to customise some things too.  I didn't have Windows 8 on this laptop and I couldn't get used to it on other laptops this appears to have some things from Windows 8 and 8.1 but having the start button back in the shape of a window left bottom of the bar makes it, for me anyway, simpler to navigate.

Overall I like it, if there is problems with it, not being pc literate means I guess I don't know where to look for them.

As stated elsewhere, this didn't come with an OS so I paid for a legitimate version of Windows to be installed at the time of purchase.

My laptop is about 4 yrs old now I think, an Asus Intel Core i7.  Cant tell anyone anymore about it as the stickers have worn out some time ago.



Cheers
Brett
Title: Re: What happens when Microsoft ends Windows 7 mainstream support next year
Post by: mikbal on August 25, 2015, 11:53:11 AM
Thanks for the infor Brett. I went ahead and made the move today on my laptop.  I chose to go with the new Microsoft browser, Edge. It may be my imagination but it seems to be quicker than IE 11. It's early yet, but so far I'm happy with 10.

MIke
Title: Re: What happens when Microsoft ends Windows 7 mainstream support next year
Post by: brett4gam on August 28, 2015, 08:18:40 AM
Thanks for the infor Brett. I went ahead and made the move today on my laptop.  I chose to go with the new Microsoft browser, Edge. It may be my imagination but it seems to be quicker than IE 11. It's early yet, but so far I'm happy with 10.

MIke

Mike, hope you are happy and don't have any glitches.  I stuck with IE11, will give Edge a go, but being an old dog, hard to get new tricks working, haha.

Cheers
Brett
Title: Re: What happens when Microsoft ends Windows 7 mainstream support next year
Post by: Art, just a re(tired) Fil-Am on August 28, 2015, 09:15:09 AM
We don't even have a Windows 7 OS anymore, but still using Windows Vista on my desktop for years and now we have Windows 8.1 that were already installed in the two new laptops we bought a few months ago while on vacation in N. California. We quit using Internet Explorer long ago, because we just had too many glitches. Our default browser now on all of our PCs is the 32 and 64 bit Slim Jet browser, an offshoot of Google Chrome and this Slim Jet browser is a lot faster than any browsers we've used and it's stable and reliable IMO.
We've also used MSE and a lot of other malware/Anti-virus free shareware, which didn't seem to detect any malware or viruses, until I found a malware/anti-virus paid version software, which is called Web Root, which has worked great in detecting malware and viruses. 
We now just have Internet Explorer 11 and Firefox sitting in the background as a backup browser just in case we have use for it again.
We will be holding off for a while before upgrading to Windows 10, we're in no hurry. 
Title: Re: What happens when Microsoft ends Windows 7 mainstream support next year
Post by: Dave_Phils on January 20, 2016, 11:25:06 PM
Windows 7 doesn't need mainstream support. We don't need any of those service packs or patches anymore. It's so good as it is right now. I don't want to upgrade to Windows 10 because my favorite programs wouldn't work. I'm glad that Microsoft will secure Windows 7 until 2020.  :)
Title: Re: What happens when Microsoft ends Windows 7 mainstream support next year
Post by: JoeLP on January 20, 2016, 11:51:51 PM
Dave_Phils.  That pic looks familiar.  Also you first post?  Are you a former member returned or all together new?
Title: Re: What happens when Microsoft ends Windows 7 mainstream support next year
Post by: Art, just a re(tired) Fil-Am on January 20, 2016, 11:55:58 PM
Windows 7 doesn't need mainstream support. We don't need any of those service packs or patches anymore. It's so good as it is right now. I don't want to upgrade to Windows 10 because my favorite programs wouldn't work. I'm glad that Microsoft will secure Windows 7 until 2020.  :)
I'm still happy using Windows Vista on my old desktop! Still works great! We don't have any Windows 7 OS, just Windows 8.1 on our laptops and in no hurry to upgrade to Windows 10.  ::) ???
Title: Re: What happens when Microsoft ends Windows 7 mainstream support next year
Post by: Dave_Phils on January 21, 2016, 12:16:46 AM
I'm new in this forum. I'm from San Diego and living in the Philippines for a while now. I just started to work online with my filipino friends. I thought I could share my tech knowledge in this site.
Title: Re: What happens when Microsoft ends Windows 7 mainstream support next year
Post by: JoeLP on January 21, 2016, 10:07:39 AM
cool and thanks Dave.  just checking
Title: Re: What happens when Microsoft ends Windows 7 mainstream support next year
Post by: iamjames on January 21, 2016, 10:15:11 AM
I took the windows 10 upgrade and regret it.
Title: Re: What happens when Microsoft ends Windows 7 mainstream support next year
Post by: copusmaximus on January 21, 2016, 11:44:01 AM
hi dave welcome here and if dont mind me asking what type of work do you do online .i only ask as im looking to do something from home to keep me busy and online seems best way as im tourist visa so cant work other ways.
Title: Re: What happens when Microsoft ends Windows 7 mainstream support next year
Post by: Splooge Magoo on January 21, 2016, 10:40:10 PM
I hated Windows 8 and I took the free upgrade to 10. Big difference.

Warning for those that choose not to update: You put yourself at risk for security issues working on software no longer supported.
Title: Re: What happens when Microsoft ends Windows 7 mainstream support next year
Post by: Danson L. on January 22, 2016, 05:26:50 PM
Hello, I would suggest you read the enclosed link, kinda' simple really. NO NEED TO DO ANYTHING to/on Windows 7 until AFTER January 14, 2020. If a good PAID antivirus is installed, then "Security Updates" should not me anything (AFTER 2020).That's a long time. I plan on keeping Windows 7 for as long as it "boots up"  Don't listen to the scare tactics in regard to Windows 10. There is problems galore with 10 NOW, it will be years before it is straightened if ever.
Title: Re: What happens when Microsoft ends Windows 7 mainstream support next year
Post by: Danson L. on January 22, 2016, 05:32:17 PM
 Hello,
I stupidly left off the link relative to Windows 7 support in my recent post  [about ten minutes ago]. I am so sorry.  Please post the link for me. Old age is taking its toll!!!!! :'(

MODERATOR: I would be happy to post the link if I knew what it was. :o
Title: Re: What happens when Microsoft ends Windows 7 mainstream support next year
Post by: M.C.A. on January 22, 2016, 06:32:06 PM

Fortunately I never had a computer with vista and from what I hear that was a good thing..but then I readily admit Im computer stupid  and if I turn it on and it works, Im happy

When I bought my Laptop in Jan 2008 it came with Windows Vista, ugh... it was cool at first but compared to Windows 7, Vista loads and shuts down so slowly and it took up allot of hard drive space, I couldn't wait to get Vista off of my Laptop.  Win 10 has been okay for me, I had to load my sound card drivers and modify some old games my wife uses but other then that it's really different, I like new innovation and I also learned that I don't need spyware so I got rid of Avast and use the Windows Defender, the antivirus that comes with the computer.
Title: Re: What happens when Microsoft ends Windows 7 mainstream support next year
Post by: Lee2 on January 22, 2016, 07:51:25 PM
The link in the original post in this topic tells it all but at the bottom is MS links.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2462643/what-happens-when-microsoft-ends-windows-7-mainstream-support-next-year.html (http://www.pcworld.com/article/2462643/what-happens-when-microsoft-ends-windows-7-mainstream-support-next-year.html)
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On January 13, 2015, Microsoft will stop mainstream support for Windows 7--which is still an extremely popular operating system. But you'll still be able to use it safely for another five years. 

I am happy with 7 and thus will keep using it and by the time Jan 14, 2020 rolls around, they may have a completely new windows systems or even a few more by then, so why worry about it now is my personal opinion.

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/lifecycle (http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/lifecycle)   https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/lifecycle?C2=14019 (https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/lifecycle?C2=14019)
Title: Re: What happens when Microsoft ends Windows 7 mainstream support next year
Post by: bigrod on January 22, 2016, 07:56:25 PM
I have Windows 10 and like it better than the Windows 7 I had previously.

Chuck
Title: Re: What happens when Microsoft ends Windows 7 mainstream support next year
Post by: Lee2 on January 22, 2016, 08:35:17 PM
I believe it comes down to what system you had before 10 and on what type of computer, and then if 10 installed correctly on your computer because apparently it installs correctly on some computers and not on other computers. And then comes is 10 compatible with the extra paid for programs a person may have installed on their computer. As an example only, years ago I had xp and used a money program, then I upgraded to Vista and the money program still worked but when I upgraded to 7 the money program was no longer compatible, and MS no longer made a current version of the program. My point being, that I then had to go out and buy and use quicken, which I hate when compared to the money program and which IMO is nowhere near as good as the money program, thus it is my opinion that if a person runs extra paid for programs, then they may not work or work correctly with 10 and I for one am not willing to find out the hard way and then have to buy a new program for that, and have to yet again learn how to work it, and that is just one paid for program of a few that I have on my computer that I have to worry about working on 10.

BTW my HP printer also did not work when I upgraded to 7 and HP did not have the drivers for about a month or so after and to this day my printer still does not work 100% correctly on my newer 7 machine, but it did when on the original machine I upgraded to 7 from Vista on. Some people do not mind buying new printers and software when they change machines, I prefer to use what I have until it dies.

Title: Re: What happens when Microsoft ends Windows 7 mainstream support next year
Post by: Art, just a re(tired) Fil-Am on January 22, 2016, 10:55:44 PM
I'm a die-hard fan of Windows Vista Basic on my old desktop, works fine for me.
We don't have any Windows 7 OSs, just 8.1 on the two laptops we now have, which I may upgrade to 10 whenever I get the urge to do so, but not in any hurry.
Nothing to fix really as long they all work without any issues. 
Title: Re: What happens when Microsoft ends Windows 7 mainstream support next year
Post by: JoeLP on January 22, 2016, 10:57:56 PM
Art is right.  My wife installed Windows 10 first on her older laptop.  I liked it and installed it on my newer one.  It installed very well and I am very happy with it.  Tina, after about 5 months had enough with the glitches and went back to windows 7 and is very happy with the move.  She misses some things that she had with windows 10, but all the shutdown and black screen glitches are gone.

If you don't have a new enough computer or one that meets the requirements, windows 10 can be a hassle.
Title: Re: What happens when Microsoft ends Windows 7 mainstream support next year
Post by: cvgtpc1 on January 24, 2016, 12:11:48 AM
I went back to 7 from 10 myself.  If I'm using the laptop just to surf with the browser I'm fine but for anything else I was lost without the start menu.
Title: Re: What happens when Microsoft ends Windows 7 mainstream support next year
Post by: Colin on February 06, 2016, 03:49:54 AM
I bought a second hand notebook computer to use while staying in te UKand it had Win7 starter edition on it. It seemed ok but I decided to take the free upgrade to Win10. I haven't fully explored it yet but seems to work fine. The only problem it has given is when the last major upgrade installed, it screwed up my dual boot with Linux Mint. I expect I could have sorted it out but decided to wait untill I got back to my main desktop computer that I left behind in the Philippines. We should be back next week  :) :) :) :) :)
Title: Re: What happens when Microsoft ends Windows 7 mainstream support next year
Post by: rogerlogan3 on February 06, 2016, 09:25:36 AM
what I don't under stand is why they would give you windows 10 for free It all sounds very good but im not sure nobody give you any thing for free if that's the case why would you buy a new lap top so hp and all are going to lose money
Title: Re: What happens when Microsoft ends Windows 7 mainstream support next year
Post by: Lee2 on February 06, 2016, 09:51:28 AM
what I don't under stand is why they would give you windows 10 for free It all sounds very good but im not sure nobody give you any thing for free if that's the case why would you buy a new lap top so hp and all are going to lose money

We had a discussion about that at the following link. http://www.livinginthephilippines.com/forum/index.php?topic=50560.0 (http://www.livinginthephilippines.com/forum/index.php?topic=50560.0)
IMHO nothing is free, everything that is supposed to be free must come with a catch and cost.
Title: Re: What happens when Microsoft ends Windows 7 mainstream support next year
Post by: BudM on August 21, 2018, 11:00:27 AM
I had posted this on the thread for the link Lee gave.  Here it is again.

https://bit.ly/2K5biPe