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It’s Your Money => Working in the Philippines => Topic started by: rm86 on April 18, 2010, 08:02:10 PM

Title: 23 y/o looking to emigrate
Post by: rm86 on April 18, 2010, 08:02:10 PM
Hey folks,

Great forum here, I\'ve spent most of the morning looking through the posts and reading about everyones experiences and opinions regarding life in the Philippines. I\'ve learned some invaluable information too from the posts discussing rent & living expenses, cultural differences and employment / business ideas. Top stuff  :)

Anyway, I\'ve signed up to the forum to ask for some words of wisdom from you guys who are currently over there in the Philippines \'living the dream\'. As the title of the post says, I\'m 23 years old, I live in the UK - I\'m currently in full time employment as a building labourer and in the evenings and weekends, I work from the computer as a freelancer to earn a few extra notes a week.

I\'m currently in the process of selling an inherited property. Once the sale has gone through, I should have banked approx. £20k-£30k GBP after the proceeds have been divided. Ideally, I want to use that money to fund a move abroad - and for the past year, Philippines has been growing on me more and more.

It might also be worth mentioning that I\'m in love with a woman in the Philippines. She\'s a little older than me (30\'s), but I trust her with my life. I know this goes against the norm, but I know she\'s the woman I want to be with and I have no doubts at all about her commitment to me (it took a while, but she seems to have finally accepted that despite my age, I have no intention of doing wrong).

Again, I\'m sure many of you know and have experienced for yourselves the urgency and longing involved when the woman you love and desire is so far from you.

Sorry for the lengthy post so far  ::)

Now onto my idea, and this is where I would appreciate some help and advice.

My intent is to move to the Philippines on a tourist visa(?) and rent a basic, clean apartment out there. It might need two bedrooms to accomodate myself, my girlfriend and her child. It has to be clean, in a safe area and ideally, not too expensive (I need to make my funds go as far as possible, so I\'ll be living on the basics out there until I have some income coming in).

With regards to work, I plan to purchase a PC and internet connection and make a full time (or ideally, part time) job out of my freelancing. In a good week I could make around $250 - but freelancing is not the most reliable of jobs, and I can\'t guaranteed a steady $250 every week. In fact, some weeks there would be nothing earned.

Do I need to fill out self employment paperwork and tax returns in the Philippines? Would I need a working visa to legally work as a self employed freelancer?

Would it be a better idea to invest some of my money into a small business of some sort? Or perhaps I could buy and rent out a small property in order to generate a monthly income?

Any advice, criticism and comments would be most welcome. In truth, I have itchy feet and I\'m very enthusiastic about this move. I\'m in an unthankful, mind numbing job in the UK - it\'s expensive to live here, I find the whole place a bit depressing. I\'m ready to grab life by the \'nads and take control, instead of breaking my back week in, week out just to scrape together enough to pay rent, food and get a couple of rounds in at the weekend. Basically, I have nothing to lose by makinb the move, other than a crappy job and a poxy flat.

There\'s lots for me to consider, and I know a lot of you folks here could offer some sound, honest advice. Any input is greatly appreciated, cheers!  ???
Title: Re: 23 y/o looking to emigrate
Post by: on April 18, 2010, 09:43:39 PM
If you earn money on-line nobody in the PI need know you are earning a penny, thus no tax.  ;)

$250 a week would keep you in relative luxury. Hell, people in the UK live on less sometimes.

Don\'t invest in a small business. You\'d do better buying Premium Bonds. The best way to end up with a small fortune in the PI is to start with a large one!

Your biggest \'problem\' will probably be the visa situation, so loads of groundwork required, but you will probably be best off running as a tourist until you get a better idea whether you really want to stay there.

Title: Re: 23 y/o looking to emigrate
Post by: BC Boy on April 18, 2010, 10:46:48 PM
Don\'t invest in a small business. You\'d do better buying Premium Bonds. The best way to end up with a small fortune in the PI is to start with a large one!

What is this Premium Bond you speak of and have you personly benefited from such an anomaly.........

and i cant stop starring at your hypnotic avatar


OP, don\'t put all your eggs in one basket, by all means set out on this adventure, but with eyes wide open and an escape route back home. Don\'t burn your bridges back home. View this journey as a re-con mission that circumstance dictates your return, when or if. You really must test the waters on an experimental basis before you decide if this women and the Philippines is for you.

Personly after spending some time here i know the girl is definitely for me.....but the jury is still out for the philippines.
Title: Re: 23 y/o looking to emigrate
Post by: rdjlazo@yahoo.com on April 18, 2010, 11:08:43 PM
Moving in the PI is not easy task but many have done so.
30,000GBP is big amount but it will not last you more than 3 years.
Boots on the ground is what you hear lot in this forum, and please
heed to this advice.
After getting familiar with her and getting adjusted to the Phil life style
your biggest challenge will be your income situation to support
yourself and family if you get married. Most of the X pats
moving there have pension, retirement and or annuity income that
they dont  worry much about wage income or business income.
Getting empolyment there is out of the question unless you
are willing to earn very little not even enough to support yourself.
Good Luck,
Rudy
Title: Re: 23 y/o looking to emigrate
Post by: paulgee on April 18, 2010, 11:49:48 PM
Whether or not you can make a living from your online activities there are 2 thing to consider: You have yet to visit the country you think you want to live in, and you have yet to meet the woman you think you intend to spend the rest of your life with.

I am from the UK, and first visited the Philippines 2 years ago to meet my online girlfriend (now my wife and living in England with me). I fell in love with both the country and my girlfriend, but it took that visit to find out.

My advice would be to take a short holiday there, see how you find things, return to the good old UK and from a distance make a rational decision. Or even an unrational decision, but at least it would be based on something more factual.

Go visit, enjoy the country and your girlfriend and have a wonderful time there. And THEN make up your mind.

Good luck,  Paul

Title: Re: 23 y/o looking to emigrate
Post by: rm86 on April 19, 2010, 01:08:19 AM
Thanks for the input fellas, nice to have some unbiased, sensible advice!

It\'s easy for me to get caught up in delusions of \"how great it\'ll be!\", and \"I\'ll cope, no problem!\", but then again - as you\'ve all pretty much said, it\'s important to stay grounded and look at the situation objectively. In an ideal world, I\'d win the lottery, visit the woman I love and settle down to a relaxed, comfortable lifestyle in PI, sipping tuba in the sun, without a care in the world. But \"tama\", it\'s never that easy (unless you\'re a lottery winner  ::)).

I\'ll be sure to stay focused and sensible because even though it\'s tempting to overlook the downsides, it would be stupid to ignore them completely!

King Herald, your signature is spot on and pretty relevant to how I feel right now:

\"Twenty years from now you\'ll regret the things you didn\'t do more than those you did.\"

Thanks again all, I\'ll keep the post updated with how things are going, just in case anyone is interested in seeing how it all goes.

Just a theoretical question for anyone else who reads this - If you were in my situation, what would you do?  ???
Title: Re: 23 y/o looking to emigrate
Post by: RUFUS on April 19, 2010, 03:45:18 AM
I would contact the embassy and acquire the 59 day visa before you go and only plan on staying the 59 days.
Test the waters, see how it goes. Then go back home and take a little time to get your internet business running a little more reliably to be sure of a more solid income. If everything is copasetic, then make plans for a more prolonged stay to make sure your relationship is all you believe it to be. DO NOT buy any property until you get married and are sure it will last. You cannot own property in the Philippines, if the relationship goes south, so will your investment and you will be out the land. I\'m not trying to burst your bubble, just the opposite as I would like to see your adventure succeed. I wish I\'d discovered the Philippines a few years earlier than I did, as I would be just that much further along with my plans to move there myself.
Definitely make sure you store enough pesos to get back home in case things do not go as planned, and good luck
Title: Re: 23 y/o looking to emigrate
Post by: jonnyivy on April 19, 2010, 04:02:21 AM
I know your still quite young, but what the hell, why can\'t the young uns have an adventure as well. G/F got a baby ?.. make sure the father/ ex-husband is well out of the way and if poss he doesn\'t get to know your around until you find out what the history is.
Go live it and try it out for yourself, but I\'d still be cautious about giving up life in UK until you know what life\'s like over there.
Most important,.. make sure you only take enough money for your holiday,.. leave the large amounts of cash in the UK banks where even you can\'t get at it in some moment of lovestruck emotional madness.

Have fun bud,

jonny
Title: Re: 23 y/o looking to emigrate
Post by: rm86 on April 19, 2010, 05:08:45 AM
Sound advice all, much appreciated again - definitely some things to consider and it\'s refreshing and encouraging to get the input of others!

@Rufus, you\'re right about the solid income, that\'s really my main concern. I want to be in PI by July... If not July, then I will be there by September at the very latest. No question \"if\" - just \"how\", lol. So with that in mind, I have about 3-5 months to develop the \'business\' - I wouldn\'t feel comfortable having no income at all while I was over there, even a couple of hundred dollars a month (despite being a Brit, most of the payments through freelancing are made in USD) to keep the money \'topped off\' would be great. I have no problem at all mixing work with pleasure if that\'s what it takes!

Now that my head\'s been pulled out of the clouds (my a*se?) a bit, I\'m starting to understand that throwing in my lot, saying \"b*llocks\" and jumping in at the deep end might not be a great idea. So I\'ll take the 59 day visa into consideration, although the 6 month visa looks like option I\'ll go for (the longer I can stay, the better)  ::)

@Jonny, nice to see a fellow Scot!

About the GF and kid - she\'s been single for 3 years, the ex left her before the kid was born, he\'s married now, got a family of his own and is well out of the picture - doesn\'t even pay money towards the kid (a familliar story in PI, as I\'ve come to understand ???).

Oh, and I\'ll be sure to keep enough in the Bank of Scotty to get my feet again back in the UK - just in case it all goes t*ts up! (With my luck, I wouldn\'t be surprised lol) :\'(

Appreciate all the encouragement and warm wishes, same to all you guys in the same boat :)

Sorry for going on, but I\'m pretty excited about the year ahead - did everyone feel this way when they were organising their first visit to PI??
Title: Re: 23 y/o looking to emigrate
Post by: RUFUS on April 19, 2010, 05:45:20 AM
59 days is all they will give you to stay. The 6 month visa is just an entry visa, your stay will only be allowed for 59 days renewable in 2 month increments. i.e. you get 59 days at entry then you go get an extension for another 2 months, then get another, etc. and you can do this for up to 2 years then ya gotta exit.
It\'s cheaper to get the 59 days before you leave from the embassy in the UK, but you can get it as you arrive in the Philippines for extra cost, not sure of the costs off the top of my head.
Title: Re: 23 y/o looking to emigrate
Post by: graham on April 19, 2010, 10:32:26 AM
59 days is all they will give you to stay. The 6 month visa is just an entry visa, your stay will only be allowed for 59 days renewable in 2 month increments. i.e. you get 59 days at entry then you go get an extension for another 2 months, then get another, etc. and you can do this for up to 2 years then ya gotta exit.
It\'s cheaper to get the 59 days before you leave from the embassy in the UK, but you can get it as you arrive in the Philippines for extra cost, not sure of the costs off the top of my head.

Rufus,

Just got back from 3 weeks in OZ. Got my 21 days at the a\'port, and last Friday went to the Immig. office and extended for the 38 days at a cost of Php3,030. Don\'t forget that if he extends after the first 59 days he will need to purchase an ACR-I card at an added cost of Php1,200, as well as the cost of the 2nd visa extension, which, I think, is about Php3K. I agree with your comment about it being cheaper to do it at the Phil. Embassy in the U.K. I didn\'t have time to do that when I was in OZ.

Graham.
Title: Re: 23 y/o looking to emigrate
Post by: jonnyivy on April 20, 2010, 12:00:32 AM
\"Sorry for going on, but I\'m pretty excited about the year ahead - did everyone feel this way when they were organising their first visit to PI??\"......


Yes !!  ( well I did )

Jonny
Title: Re: 23 y/o looking to emigrate
Post by: on April 20, 2010, 01:35:40 AM
What is this Premium Bond you speak of and have you personly benefited from such an anomaly.........
 
\'Premium Bonds\' are a government run \'raffle\' ticket, where you buy them and keep them, and can sell them back years later.

There is an \'average\' win %, and unlike Lotto (or a business in the Philippines) you are guaranteed to be able to sell them and get your money back after you decide you have had enough.
Title: Re: 23 y/o looking to emigrate
Post by: c_a_p_t_a_i_n_r_o_n on April 20, 2010, 02:44:40 AM
What is this Premium Bond you speak of and have you personly benefited from such an anomaly.........
 
\'Premium Bonds\' are a government run \'raffle\' ticket, where you buy them and keep them, and can sell them back years later.

There is an \'average\' win %, and unlike Lotto (or a business in the Philippines) you are guaranteed to be able to sell them and get your money back after you decide you have had enough.

and their value in \"real\" terms has shrunk to about 10%
Title: Re: 23 y/o looking to emigrate
Post by: on April 20, 2010, 10:57:57 AM
What is this Premium Bond you speak of and have you personly benefited from such an anomaly.........
 
\'Premium Bonds\' are a government run \'raffle\' ticket, where you buy them and keep them, and can sell them back years later.

There is an \'average\' win %, and unlike Lotto (or a business in the Philippines) you are guaranteed to be able to sell them and get your money back after you decide you have had enough.

and their value in \"real\" terms has shrunk to about 10%
I assume it depends how long you have owned them? You only get back the actual price you paid for them.

 But then again, how much are last weeks Lotto tickets worth this week....  ;)

One thing we have to give up when we move to the PI: our UK Lotto weekly. Now you can\'t play unless you are a full time UK resident.
Title: Re: 23 y/o looking to emigrate
Post by: rm86 on April 20, 2010, 09:20:39 PM
Good responses, thanks Rufus, I wasn\'t aware of the in\'s and outs of the Visa process. Done a bit of research and found the following:

\"If you decide to stay longer than 59 days, or if you did not get a visa and decide to stay longer than 21 days, you can get an extension stamp placed in your passport. You can obtain the stamp by visiting the local Immigration office in the Philippine city you are visiting. The cost is the Philippine equivalent of $30, and will extend your trip for an additional 2 months. You can continue getting extensions for up to a year without leaving the country.\"

Is this something similar to what you mentioned, Graham?

So if I\'m reading this correctly, I can travel to PI, treating it as a normal holiday, wihout obtaining a visa beforehand - and then, once I\'m in PI and my 3 weeks is almost up, I can just pop into the relevant immig. office and pay for a 2 month visitor extension there and then? And this process can be repeated for up to a year? If so, that sounds like a tempting option for me  :o
Title: Re: 23 y/o looking to emigrate
Post by: jonnyivy on April 20, 2010, 09:31:09 PM
Just wondering how you would work your return ticket ? I presume you would buy an \"open\" return to get you home again when the time came, be it 3 weeks or 3 months or 1 year ?
If your from Scotland, I can give you a few ideas on the cheaper flights and the best routes to get there as I would imagine you would be using the same airports as me.

Jonny
Title: Re: 23 y/o looking to emigrate
Post by: c_a_p_t_a_i_n_r_o_n on April 20, 2010, 09:57:12 PM
What is this Premium Bond you speak of and have you personly benefited from such an anomaly.........
 
\'Premium Bonds\' are a government run \'raffle\' ticket, where you buy them and keep them, and can sell them back years later.

There is an \'average\' win %, and unlike Lotto (or a business in the Philippines) you are guaranteed to be able to sell them and get your money back after you decide you have had enough.

and their value in \"real\" terms has shrunk to about 10%
I assume it depends how long you have owned them? You only get back the actual price you paid for them.

 
A premium bond held for 10 years is worth between 67 and 76% of what tyou paid for it (based on RPI OR average earnings

Held for 20 years......value is only worth between 39 and 50%
Title: Re: 23 y/o looking to emigrate
Post by: southern92 on April 21, 2010, 12:46:19 AM
Sorry for going on, but I\'m pretty excited about the year ahead - did everyone feel this way when they were organising their first visit to PI??

I know I was!  The U.S. Navy took me there the first time I visited.  Even though it was my first time there, I had been hearing stories about the Philippines for MONTHS!  I was blown away!  The food, sites, sounds, and of course the women!  It will remain one of my favorite places (and thus I am on this board seriously thinking of a move there!)
Title: Re: 23 y/o looking to emigrate
Post by: rm86 on April 22, 2010, 06:45:31 AM
When I go to PI, I\'ll have no ties to the UK, ie. no apartment, no bills, nothing here in the UK. I\'ll basically have a bit of cash, the clothes on my back and a bag of essentials. Sounds drastic, but I\'m assured I\'ll have a place to \'crash\' here in the UK when I return. The way I see it is - if I go now (I\'ll be 24 when I go), I could come back to the UK at 25 as a broken man, but still young enough to restart my life, lol - either that or live as hermit on one the islands around PI 8)

Based on that, I\'ve come up with a few questions and I\'ll post them in this topic to avoid cluttering the forum.

1. If I go the visa route / visitor extension route and extend my stay every 2 months for a year, can (should) I keep my cash in a UK bank account?

2. Can I use my British \"debit\" (visa) card in the Philippines to withdraw money from the PI ATM\'s?

3. If I had to setup direct debits to pay for bills and rent, can I use my UK bank account info, or are these transactions \'cash in hand\' type affairs?

4. Do I need to inform any government department about my intended 6+ month absence from the UK?

Cheers for the advice all and sorry if my posts have an air of naivety about them  ::)


Southern, sounds great! Seems that your visit to the Philippines made quite an impression on you ;D I\'ve heard nothing but good things (ok, and a few not so good too  ;)) about PI and can\'t wait to experience it for myself. Looking through the photos and reading the success stories here on the forum just makes me want to go and visit even more. If you don\'t mind me asking, what stage of the \"move\" are you in? Have you decided a definite yes and just waiting for the right time?
Title: Re: 23 y/o looking to emigrate
Post by: on April 22, 2010, 08:06:56 AM
When I go to PI, I\'ll have no ties to the UK, ie. no apartment, no bills, nothing here in the UK. I\'ll basically have a bit of cash, the clothes on my back and a bag of essentials. Sounds drastic, but I\'m assured I\'ll have a place to \'crash\' here in the UK when I return. The way I see it is - if I go now (I\'ll be 24 when I go), I could come back to the UK at 25 as a broken man, but still young enough to restart my life, lol - either that or live as hermit on one the islands around PI 8)

Based on that, I\'ve come up with a few questions and I\'ll post them in this topic to avoid cluttering the forum.

1. If I go the visa route / visitor extension route and extend my stay every 2 months for a year, can (should) I keep my cash in a UK bank account?

2. Can I use my British \"debit\" (visa) card in the Philippines to withdraw money from the PI ATM\'s?

3. If I had to setup direct debits to pay for bills and rent, can I use my UK bank account info, or are these transactions \'cash in hand\' type affairs?

4. Do I need to inform any government department about my intended 6+ month absence from the UK?

Cheers for the advice all and sorry if my posts have an air of naivety about them  ::)


Southern, sounds great! Seems that your visit to the Philippines made quite an impression on you ;D I\'ve heard nothing but good things (ok, and a few not so good too  ;)) about PI and can\'t wait to experience it for myself. Looking through the photos and reading the success stories here on the forum just makes me want to go and visit even more. If you don\'t mind me asking, what stage of the \"move\" are you in? Have you decided a definite yes and just waiting for the right time?


Some quick replies  ;D

1. Yes, it is advisable to retain a UK Bank account and retain most of your money in it. Philippine banks have a very limited insurance, P500k I believe. I would suggest opening a Philippine Bank account when you get here and transfer money as you need it.

2. Yes

3. I doubt if a UK direct debit would be acceptable in most places, I tend to use cash most of the time, but we do have two Philippine bank accounts with ATM cards.

4. You should notify the UK tax authorities, I did not do it and it did cause complications with tax returns that I did not usually make in the UK but they decided I needed to here because I was renting out my property.

Colin
Title: Re: 23 y/o looking to emigrate
Post by: rm86 on April 22, 2010, 08:13:21 AM
Colin, perfect and straight to the point - cheers! Updated my little black book  :D
Title: Re: 23 y/o looking to emigrate
Post by: graham on April 22, 2010, 10:29:05 AM
When I go to PI, I\'ll have no ties to the UK, ie. no apartment, no bills, nothing here in the UK. I\'ll basically have a bit of cash, the clothes on my back and a bag of essentials. Sounds drastic, but I\'m assured I\'ll have a place to \'crash\' here in the UK when I return. The way I see it is - if I go now (I\'ll be 24 when I go), I could come back to the UK at 25 as a broken man, but still young enough to restart my life, lol - either that or live as hermit on one the islands around PI 8)

Based on that, I\'ve come up with a few questions and I\'ll post them in this topic to avoid cluttering the forum.

1. If I go the visa route / visitor extension route and extend my stay every 2 months for a year, can (should) I keep my cash in a UK bank account?

2. Can I use my British \"debit\" (visa) card in the Philippines to withdraw money from the PI ATM\'s?

3. If I had to setup direct debits to pay for bills and rent, can I use my UK bank account info, or are these transactions \'cash in hand\' type affairs?

4. Do I need to inform any government department about my intended 6+ month absence from the UK?

Cheers for the advice all and sorry if my posts have an air of naivety about them  ::)


Southern, sounds great! Seems that your visit to the Philippines made quite an impression on you ;D I\'ve heard nothing but good things (ok, and a few not so good too  ;)) about PI and can\'t wait to experience it for myself. Looking through the photos and reading the success stories here on the forum just makes me want to go and visit even more. If you don\'t mind me asking, what stage of the \"move\" are you in? Have you decided a definite yes and just waiting for the right time?


Some quick replies  ;D

1. Yes, it is advisable to retain a UK Bank account and retain most of your money in it. Philippine banks have a very limited insurance, P500k I believe. I would suggest opening a Philippine Bank account when you get here and transfer money as you need it.

2. Yes

3. I doubt if a UK direct debit would be acceptable in most places, I tend to use cash most of the time, but we do have two Philippine bank accounts with ATM cards.

4. You should notify the UK tax authorities, I did not do it and it did cause complications with tax returns that I did not usually make in the UK but they decided I needed to here because I was renting out my property.

Colin

First of all, You can extend the tourist visa up to 16 months by 2 monthly increments. After that you can submit your passport to the BoI and the Manila office can, at it\'s discretion, extend your stay up to a total of 24 months. You will then have to leave the country and re-enter (it can be the same day) and start the process all over again. You will have to purchase/pay for, an Alien Certificate Registration (ACR-I) card upon extending your visa for the 2nd extension, this is mandatory. You must have this (I believe) to open a Bank account in the Philippines.

Second, I have never had any business accept my debit card per se, I use it to withdraw cash from an ATM. They all seem to be afraid, or not understanding of the process of it. Good idea to have a credit card if you get into trouble moneywise. My money stays in OZ and I have 2 ATM cards that Janet and I use. Make sure they are marked Cirrus or Maestro. These appear to be the prevalent systems here.

Third, Check out the price difference of a return flight (if you can get an \"open\" ticket) and a \"one-way\" ticket. If it is cheaper in your mind to get a one-way be aware that you MUST have an on-going ticket out of the country or else the airline you choose to bring you here may not allow you to board.

Fourth, You can purchase a cheap \"onward\" or \"throwaway\" ticket From i.e. Tiger Airlines operating out of Clark Field Manila. These tickets are around $40-50 U.S. (check out their website) and can sometimes be refundable. You just have to satisfy the authorities that you have the means to leave the country.

Fifth, I know you are joking about living as a hermit. You would be living a pitiful existence relying on handouts from Expats. You cannot work on a tourist visa and even if you could I doubt that any business would employ you for anything  other than \"novelty value\"! When you eventually get here you will understand what I mean.

Safe trip to you,

Graham
Title: Re: 23 y/o looking to emigrate
Post by: southern92 on April 22, 2010, 10:44:29 PM


Southern, sounds great! Seems that your visit to the Philippines made quite an impression on you ;D I\'ve heard nothing but good things (ok, and a few not so good too  ;)) about PI and can\'t wait to experience it for myself. Looking through the photos and reading the success stories here on the forum just makes me want to go and visit even more. If you don\'t mind me asking, what stage of the \"move\" are you in? Have you decided a definite yes and just waiting for the right time?

I guess the short answer is a minimum of a year (until I retire), but a truer reality is I have multiple balls in the air that are preventing me from making a final when/if decision.  In the meantime I will continue to visit here and gather information to help smooth my transition should this option become a reality :-)
Title: Re: 23 y/o looking to emigrate
Post by: Mooncat on November 14, 2010, 08:39:43 AM
Some very good advice on here. As for a property, you would probably be better off buying a condo outright. It\'ll save you money in the long run. This is what I did. This said, I bought off plan and therefore got it on the cheap. You then usually have to wait around 18 months before you can move in. Not sure about 2 bedroom but 1 bedroom condo\'s in a good location go for around 20k. Weekly living expenses can then be very low. I currently spend around 100 a week, about 160 dollars. This said, I\'m not out partying every night nor did I eat out regularly at expensive restaurants but I live reasonably well on that. Good luck with it all.
Title: Re: 23 y/o looking to emigrate
Post by: Chasereo on November 14, 2010, 09:43:54 AM
Hey man,

Where do you think you want to end up in the PI?  I\'m thinking I\'ll be ready to move there about July-ish and if you\'re going to be around me at all, it would be nice to hang out with another young ex-pat. No offense to you older gentlemen on this forum, but a beer with you guys wouldn\'t be so bad!
Title: Re: 23 y/o looking to emigrate
Post by: rm86 on March 11, 2011, 10:17:02 PM
Hey folks,

Been a while since the initial post, so I\'ll just give a brief update for anyone interested  :P

I went over to the Philippines for 2 weeks in November 2010 to \'test the waters\' so to speak - it was definitely an eye opener, but I enjoyed every minute of my time there. I\'ll type up my experiences for anyone interested in reading. Just memories now, but I\'ll try to keep it interesting / informative.

I booked a room at a hotel in Makati, nothing fancy, but the price was decent and the hotel looked great on the site. I\'m not too fussy about luxuries, just needed a roof over my head while I was there and the chance to shower. At $20 per night I wasn\'t expecting anything too fancy anyway.

On the day of leaving UK, everything went fine. Flew from UK to Amsterdam for a few hours to wait for the connecting flight. Took about 8 hours to arrive in Philippines after departing from Amsterdam - longest time I\'ve spent on a plane, and I didn\'t enjoy it lol.

As we approached Ninoy Aquino airport, the sun was out in force and the sky was a brilliant blue. It offered an amazing aerial view of the Philippines - and it\'s an image I\'ll remember for a long time to come. As we neared touchdown, the Filippinos on board began to \'cross\' themselves in thanks, I would imagine, for the safe flight.

The airport wasn\'t as daunting as I\'d expected - though it was really busy at the check in terminals. Dozens of Filippinos chatted excitedly amongst themselves, and scattered through the queues were a few foreigners (all male). I didn\'t see anyone who looked around my age, the youngest guys (of the foreigners) looking to be in their late 30\'s - early 40\'s.

After checking in, I stepped outside for the first time and was hit straight away by the humidity and heat - I\'ve lived in UK all my life and we don\'t often get \"really\" hot weather. The heat that day in the Philippines far surpassed any temperature I\'d experienced here in the UK... And keep in mind this is November  :P

I jumped a taxi, the driver was a woman who looked to be in her 30\'s. She seemed genuinely friendly and was chatty as we drove through the city, I found it difficult to maintain conversation - nothing to do with the language barrier, her English was great - just that I was taking in to many awesome new sights - Jeepney\'s, the street \"barkada\'s\", Taho sellers, street sellers hawking their warez in the middle of the road, the chaotic traffic. There was literally something interesting going on whichever way you turned your head. The whole country was alive and buzzing - vastly different to the city I\'d been in just 24 hours before - just like another world.

Back to this taxi driver! She knew how to charm - every 2 minutes she\'d stop mid conversation and say \"wow you are gwapo sir!\" (thank you ma\'am!). I\'m sure I impressed (amused  :P) her with my attempts at Tagalog. She asked if I was interested in meeting her and her friends \'later\', and informed me that if I needed \"anything\" while I was there, to text her or call her - she [strike]gave me[/strike]  practically forced me to take her cell phone number. We arrived at the hotel, whereupon I paid the 600 peso fare - which I thought was expensive, but then again, we had travelled a fair distance and she\'d been a great driver, offering various tips and bits of advice and generally being all round friendly.

I checked in no problem. Yet more friendly, smiling faces. I get to my room accompanied by \"Joey\" eager to carry my bags for me. We got talking about music while waiting for the elevator to pop. He listed the Beatles as one of his favourite bands - that instantly won him a gold star in my books. He was the daily cleaner etc. in my room and seemed like a genuinely friendly guy.

Finally, I was alone and had time to gather my thoughts, I was feeling a bit dizzy with the vibe and heat of this mesmerizing country. I set down my bags and went to the shower to freshen up. I caught something in the corner of my eye on the floor... Then it was gone. No more barefoot showers for me... I saw the \"thing\" again later and it was a giant red cockroach... I\'m not the soft type, but this thing scared the crap out of me. I plugged up its little \'cave\' - a crack in the wall by the sink, and - thankfully - wasn\'t disturbed by it again, though I\'m sure it was lurking around the whole time along with a whole army of the things - probably crawling over my face as I slept  :P

End of Chapter 1 lol  :D
Title: Re: 23 y/o looking to emigrate
Post by: on March 11, 2011, 10:43:27 PM
Cool write-up dude!  ;D

The Filipinos crossing themselves on the plane was them praying for a safe landing, not thanking for a safe flight.  ;)

And if it only took 8 hours to get from Amsterdam to Manila, I wanna know what airline you took!! Last time I flew that route it was about 12 hours, direct.

I hear what you\'re saying: There was literally something interesting going on whichever way you turned your head. The whole country was alive and buzzing - vastly different to the city I\'d been in just 24 hours before - just like another world.

Something I tell people, there is always something going on, but most people don\'t really understand what I\'m on about. I too lived in the UK for many of my years, and that was one of the essential differences between UK and PI.

Roll on episode two, more about the taxi driver.......  ;D
Title: Re: 23 y/o looking to emigrate
Post by: rm86 on March 11, 2011, 11:05:43 PM
Hey King, thanks for the reply  ;D

Ah yeah that\'d make sense about the praying for a safe landing thing - I was relieved to be getting my feet on the ground again as well! I travelled w/ KLM for both flights, could be a bit off in my travel time estimate, for some reason I seem to have it in my head that UK - Amsterdam took approx. 2 hours then Amsterdam - Phils took 8  ??? already feels like a lifetime ago, so I might have it mixed up! And unfortunately - the taxi driver doesn\'t make an appearance again :( never did find the time to take her up on the offer lol.
Title: Re: 23 y/o looking to emigrate
Post by: jonnyivy on March 12, 2011, 02:07:46 AM
Yup,..its 12 hours from Amsterdam to Manila,.. 1 hour 10 mins from Edinburgh to Ams.
This is the most convenient flights for me too as I live only an hour from Edinburgh or Newcastle and I can\'t fault KLM, although not as classy as others .
Great story you told,.. like many others I will look forward to part 2 !!

Jonny
Title: Re: 23 y/o looking to emigrate
Post by: on March 12, 2011, 03:05:04 AM
Hey King, thanks for the reply  ;D

Ah yeah that\'d make sense about the praying for a safe landing thing - I was relieved to be getting my feet on the ground again as well! I travelled w/ KLM for both flights, could be a bit off in my travel time estimate, for some reason I seem to have it in my head that UK - Amsterdam took approx. 2 hours then Amsterdam - Phils took 8  ??? already feels like a lifetime ago, so I might have it mixed up! And unfortunately - the taxi driver doesn\'t make an appearance again :( never did find the time to take her up on the offer lol.

I\'m booked to fly Manchester-Amsterdam-Manila in about three weeks time. Last time I flew that route the plane was 75% empty on the long hitch. Cool.  ;D

I\'ve never seen a female taxi driver in all the years I\'ve been over there, not one. Must be the new age of liberation taking over.


Title: Re: 23 y/o looking to emigrate
Post by: on March 12, 2011, 12:35:10 PM
I guess the cabbie gave her number, coz she wanted more taxi business later. At P600 from the airport, she certainly got her moneys worth. It should have been between P100-150. ce-la-vie, it happens. On the hotel, as the room was only $20 (assuming UK) then you got the cockroach for free. You get what you paid for. Better luck next time, hehehe.

So what happened to the older lady?
Is she still in your picture?
Why did you only stay for 2 weeks, when the original was probably a 6 month stay?

Ok so I am a bit nosy, hehe, just curious tho.

Bruce
Title: Re: 23 y/o looking to emigrate
Post by: jonnyivy on March 12, 2011, 07:42:56 PM
Hey, abcdevil,.... get in the queue,... we\'re all waiting too for the next part of the story,... I\'m wondering what happened too !!

My understanding would be for the taxi driver to give her cell number to rm86 to have a chance of a date ?/

I got hussled at Manila airport on my first visit by an airport security girl,.. she insisted to know which hotel I was staying at and pushed her cell number into my pocket so I could reach her that night. Didn\'t have the heart to tell her I was just heading for the other domestic airport to catch a flight to Cebu...

Jonny
Title: Re: 23 y/o looking to emigrate
Post by: Steve & Myrlita on March 12, 2011, 07:52:56 PM
Hey, abcdevil,.... get in the queue,... we\'re all waiting too for the next part of the story,... I\'m wondering what happened too !!

My understanding would be for the taxi driver to give her cell number to rm86 to have a chance of a date ?/

I got hussled at Manila airport on my first visit by an airport security girl,.. she insisted to know which hotel I was staying at and pushed her cell number into my pocket so I could reach her that night. Didn\'t have the heart to tell her I was just heading for the other domestic airport to catch a flight to Cebu...

Jonny
Probably setting you up to be robbed. God Bless......
Title: Re: 23 y/o looking to emigrate
Post by: jonnyivy on March 13, 2011, 01:28:10 AM
Hey Steve,.. cmon,.. don\'t spoil my dreaming !!
Title: Re: 23 y/o looking to emigrate
Post by: on March 14, 2011, 10:32:16 AM
Hey, abcdevil,.... get in the queue,... we\'re all waiting too for the next part of the story,... I\'m wondering what happened too !!

My understanding would be for the taxi driver to give her cell number to rm86 to have a chance of a date ?/

I got hussled at Manila airport on my first visit by an airport security girl,.. she insisted to know which hotel I was staying at and pushed her cell number into my pocket so I could reach her that night. Didn\'t have the heart to tell her I was just heading for the other domestic airport to catch a flight to Cebu...

Jonny
Jonny,
By any chance, did that security girl, have black hair, olive complexion, about 5 ft tall, nice looking? If so, I also received the same thing, on 3 different occassions. I wonder if it is the same girl? Once I was with my wife. We both laughed it off as it boosted my ego and made my wife feel proud.

I didn\'t tell her I was meeting my wife outside. Couldn\'t damage those delicate female emotions.

Bruce
Title: Re: 23 y/o looking to emigrate
Post by: graham on March 14, 2011, 11:23:48 AM
Hey, abcdevil,.... get in the queue,... we\'re all waiting too for the next part of the story,... I\'m wondering what happened too !!

My understanding would be for the taxi driver to give her cell number to rm86 to have a chance of a date ?/

I got hussled at Manila airport on my first visit by an airport security girl,.. she insisted to know which hotel I was staying at and pushed her cell number into my pocket so I could reach her that night. Didn\'t have the heart to tell her I was just heading for the other domestic airport to catch a flight to Cebu...

Jonny
Probably setting you up to be robbed. God Bless......

Steven, Steven, you have become very cynical since you came here  :o :o  ::)

Graham
Title: Re: 23 y/o looking to emigrate
Post by: on March 14, 2011, 10:45:47 PM

Steven, Steven, you have become very cynical since you came here  :o :o  ::)

Graham


Unfortunatly, that is a safe way to set your head to in the Philippines.  :(

Nobody can deny that, as this forum is alive with warnings about being very careful whenever trusting local people with anything.

It is a real shame, when there are so many great people, that just that certain, almost \'accepted\' percentage, should make it this way.