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Re: Cost of living in your area compared to home
« Reply #15 on: February 11, 2013, 12:13:09 PM »
the split Aircon units would be soo nice During the day -one could relax /hide from the summer Heat knowing your Bill for using would be wala atleast during the daytime. :-\

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Re: Cost of living in your area compared to home
« Reply #16 on: February 11, 2013, 02:14:17 PM »
G'day guys,

One must seriously consider .. what's affordable and what's not .. it can disrupt one's financial situation and or health issues.

Agree completely, Art. And for anyone interested, I thought I'd compare some of our living expenses in Palawan to current-day Australian living expenses,

Briefly, on Palawan, our power-bills (for around the same use) are close to one quater (Palawan $35/month, Australia $150) and the same, one quarter, for water.

Food, per month and although different (eg, we eat much less beef and potatoes, much more fish, rice and fruit) currently costs around one eighth per month.

Rent, say an urban 3-bedroom concrete house on a reasonable block, would be around one quarter of the cost per month, and petrol we find is around about the same.

These are accurate figures for us. Do they match up with any other Aussie's experiences, or, with those of folk from other countries?

Cheers,
Stephen
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Re: Cost of living in your area compared to home
« Reply #17 on: February 11, 2013, 03:48:37 PM »
I posted my cost of living here long ago and I'm ashamed to post it again, because we haven't been frugal with our living expenses over the years! Fortunately we own our own home, but our grocery and electric bill is way way up there!  :'( :o ;) 
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Re: Cost of living in your area compared to home
« Reply #18 on: February 11, 2013, 06:29:17 PM »
G'day guys,

One must seriously consider .. what's affordable and what's not .. it can disrupt one's financial situation and or health issues.

Agree completely, Art. And for anyone interested, I thought I'd compare some of our living expenses in Palawan to current-day Australian living expenses,

Briefly, on Palawan, our power-bills (for around the same use) are close to one quarter (Palawan $35/month, Australia $150) and the same, one quarter, for water.

Food, per month and although different (eg, we eat much less beef and potatoes, much more fish, rice and fruit) currently costs around one eighth per month.

Rent, say an urban 3-bedroom concrete house on a reasonable block, would be around one quarter of the cost per month, and petrol we find is around about the same.

These are accurate figures for us. Do they match up with any other Aussie's experiences, or, with those of folk from other countries?

Cheers,
Stephen
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I can't directly compare electric costs. But I think if I ran the same things in Australia as we do on Leyte, the cost will be about the same.
 
Otherwise, there is no comparison on most everything else. About the only thing that I can match price on is chicken. P140 per kilo on Leyte. P125 equivalent for chicken pieces where I stay when in Australia. Of course that might be because I stay less than 10 kilometres from one of the biggest chicken factories in Australia.
 
It is way cheaper in the Philippines. 4 bedroom 2 bathroom house with large garage on Leyte is P8000 per month. I would not even get that for a week, anywhere, in Australia.
 
We pay P2500 per month for a low class 2 bedroom apartment.  That is about 4 days worth of rent for the equivalent place where I stay when in Australia.
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Re: Cost of living in your area compared to home
« Reply #19 on: February 11, 2013, 08:14:43 PM »
my electric Bill is about 4000 a month and thats runing an aircon during the day for 4 hours and at nite all nite we also have a well pump that runs a 1 and half horse power motor one ref 3 fans that run all day electric oven and rice cooker etc.we eat from the local market and we buy from pure gold to I cant live without my Boneless bangus fish that you get at pure gold,we own our own house now that God we rented for 2 years.but when we rented it was 10,000 a month in Dasmarinas cavite close to SM it was 3 bed room very nice cheaper than you could rent a trailer for in the usa for sure.the chicken here goes for 120 per kilo at the market we eat lots of veggies and stir fry meals no pig meat and no beef fish and chicken..and some shrimp.the shrimp costs 480 per kilo wich is very high compared to the usa GA

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Re: Cost of living in your area compared to home
« Reply #20 on: February 11, 2013, 08:33:37 PM »
G'day Jim and all,


It is way cheaper in the Philippines. 4 bedroom 2 bathroom house with large garage on Leyte is P8000 per month. I would not even get that for a week, anywhere, in Australia. We pay P2500 per month ..  about 4 days worth of rent for the equivalent place where I stay when in Australia.


Agreed, Jim.  And simply from our experience, the basic cost of living (on Palawan anyway) is around 25% that of Australia.

That's not counting medical attention, which is free in Australia. But our dentist on Palawan (whom is as good or better than any I've ever visited) is something like around one tenth of the cost of a normal Aussie dentist. And, the Adventist Hospital and medical doctors in PPC from experience are skilled professionals also, but just not free, as are your general practitioners, specialist doctors and public hospitals in Australia.

Housing costs aren't all that cheap on Palawan, because the recent tourism 'Seven Wonders of the World' win has meant accomodation prices have risen. (Sometimes silly levels) So, your example of a 4 bedroom house for P8000 a month on Leyte Jim is not generally available here. For instance, here's a current house advertised for P7,000 a month, maybe say P6k for longer term rental. http://puertoprincesacity.olx.com.ph/house-with-mountain-view-for-rent-occupied-till-2013-iid-298255587

And WildBill, it sounds as if rentals in Dasmarinas Cavite are something similiar to Palawan maybe, from what you say.

So, at P7k per month, plus power and water, one should be able to live the simple life for around 10,000 peso a month plus food. That's if you're used warmer weather and don't have aircon all that much. That what, $250 US a month for the basics?

So, comfortable accomodation for eight dollars a day, say $12-$15 US per day with food and for everything necessary for a reasonable life in the Philippines. Just for interest, I know that just about all Government teachers are paid around $13/day. Of course, most of us night want a little more from life than just the basics, but this seems the bottom line for a reasonably comfortable life, on Palawan anyway. And, such things can be handy to know.

Cheers all,
Stephen :-)

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Re: Cost of living in your area compared to home
« Reply #21 on: February 11, 2013, 08:47:36 PM »
I agree with you but some here are not as fortunate as us and there budget has been cut short in the past 2 years I feel for them,you wanna here cheaper rent we stayed in a house in Baccoor cavite two bed rooms for 5000 a month yes mostly cheaper here  some things are just getting higher and higher but you still cant beat it I personally hate cold weather and love the climate here..and the people here..I also know a pinoy who lives in lipa and rents an apartment and yes its small but you can live  its close to that mountain in lipa he is an OFW and his rent is 1500 piscos a month...

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Re: Cost of living in your area compared to home
« Reply #22 on: February 11, 2013, 10:26:12 PM »

...I wonder whether that holds true for other areas of the Philippines - where costs of items is that much higher in large towns/ cities than the less affluent smaller towns...


We live in Tuguegarao City.  Way up in the northern part of Luzon.  Things that are affected by shipping costs (within the Phl) cost more here.  For example, gasoline is about 10% higher than Manila.  We used to live in Tuao which is a small farming town about 40 minutes from Tuguegarao.  Gasoline there is usually a few pesos higher than Tuguegarao.  Beer, Coke, etc. is also higher in Tuao compared to Tuguegarao.  I don't know about things like vegetables and chicken.

Electronic equipment, also.  More expensive in Tuguegarao than Manila.  Twice I have seen someone bringing back a TV on flights from Manila to Tuguegarao.
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Re: Cost of living in your area compared to home
« Reply #23 on: February 11, 2013, 11:52:50 PM »
the split Aircon units would be soo nice During the day -one could relax /hide from the summer Heat knowing your Bill for using would be wala atleast during the daytime. :-\
I think you or someone on this forum provided this link concerning "Solar A/C" systems:
http://ph.california-electronics.com/products_search.php?search_category_id=387&search_string=solar+panels&search=+Go
Which is very interesting even though it's sort of expensive, but I think it would pay for itself in the long run!
I'm considering installing a few as soon I can afford it, hopefully sooner rather than later, because you see, I'm not a frugal person and our electric bill averages between P6,000 to P8,000 a month!
« Last Edit: February 12, 2013, 12:34:24 AM by Art2ro »
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« Reply #24 on: February 12, 2013, 03:17:27 AM »
Art....You and I seem to enjoy the comforts of aircon more than anyone on here so it won't be long and we will hit a coffee shop and discuss what we think about these solar a/c systems as I was also interested in them when the link first went up.  Yeah, they cost a little more but since electricity there will cost me more than here, I am all for them.
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Re: Cost of living in your area compared to home
« Reply #25 on: February 12, 2013, 08:15:59 AM »
G'day Jim and all,

Housing costs aren't all that cheap on Palawan, because the recent tourism 'Seven Wonders of the World' win has meant accomodation prices have risen. (Sometimes silly levels) So, your example of a 4 bedroom house for P8000 a month on Leyte Jim is not generally available here. For instance, here's a current house advertised for P7,000 a month, maybe say P6k for longer term rental. http://puertoprincesacity.olx.com.ph/house-with-mountain-view-for-rent-occupied-till-2013-iid-298255587



That is expensive but aimed at foreigners, almost an hours drive to central Puerto and 30 minutes to go past our place and we are near the Butterfly Gardens, Bakers Hill etc. We also have the same view of mountains that is shown on the ad. We rented a place in central Puerto for 5 years for P15k a month, a very short walk to all the shops NCCC etc. That had three bedrooms plus a maids room but only one shower and toilet, not in good condition but the termites enjoyed it :)

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Re: Cost of living in your area compared to home
« Reply #26 on: February 12, 2013, 01:33:39 PM »
   I enjoy using and contributing to numbeo.com as well. No sense in re-inventing the wheel when the data structure already exists. The data sets are only averages however. They do exhibit the ranges and number of contributors, which makes it a little more understandable and accounts for individual variations, but generalities and averages are only that and your personal experience may differ while living there. Keep that in mind. Quality and related costs vary when paying for a place to live, but since they are competitive, they stay relatively close.
   I'd recommend that you use this site and make data contributions, especially  if you're doing the grocery shopping for the home. If more expats would contribute, we'd have a pretty accurate and on-going COL source for ourselves and others. If you don't own your own place and prefer to rent.... the site will prove quite handy.... especially if you want to move somewhere else in the PI to escape the relatives for a brief or long period or just experience what its like living in another province or on another P Island. I've spent time on Mindoro, Panay and Negros Occ. and its good to see the posted variations in COL. 

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Re: Cost of living in your area compared to home
« Reply #27 on: February 12, 2013, 05:50:19 PM »
Interesting website! Put in one's city, but some data is missing, which needs further updating!
I put in some of the prices I know for my city! My wife does most of the shopping though! 

http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/country_result.jsp?country=Philippines
« Last Edit: February 12, 2013, 06:00:59 PM by Art2ro »
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Re: Cost of living in your area compared to home
« Reply #28 on: February 12, 2013, 06:26:13 PM »
Art....You and I seem to enjoy the comforts of aircon more than anyone on here so it won't be long and we will hit a coffee shop and discuss what we think about these solar a/c systems as I was also interested in them when the link first went up.  Yeah, they cost a little more but since electricity there will cost me more than here, I am all for them.
Yep! I'm all in for that cup of coffee in an air conditioned coffee shop!
I would love to have an all 1.5 HP solar split-type A/C through out our home even though it costs P38,000 a unit and that's not yet including the installation cost! 
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"It's always a matter of money"!
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Re: Cost of living in your area compared to home
« Reply #29 on: February 12, 2013, 08:28:03 PM »
Art....You and I seem to enjoy the comforts of aircon more than anyone on here so it won't be long and we will hit a coffee shop and discuss what we think about these solar a/c systems as I was also interested in them when the link first went up.  Yeah, they cost a little more but since electricity there will cost me more than here, I am all for them.
Yep! I'm all in for that cup of coffee in an air conditioned coffee shop!
I would love to have an all 1.5 HP solar split-type A/C through out our home even though it costs P38,000 a unit and that's not yet including the installation cost!

The term Solar Air-conditioner is a bit misleading when they are they are really just Solar assisted. You pay more for the units, although not an excessive amount, to save some electricity. You need to be a heavy daytime user to benefit in a reasonable time. I only ever use a 0.5 hp unit in my study in the afternoon and evenings during the hot periods so it is unlikely that I would have much use for one. We have open windows on opposite sides of our bedroom with either an occasional fan or even a sheet at times when it is too cool.

 


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