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Offline bigpearl

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20 ft shipping container Australia to Manila
« on: March 09, 2016, 04:23:28 AM »
Here is a quote from a Company in Manila to move our belongings.
Dear Sir,

Please see below rate for 20'ft

Mode of Service : Door to Door
Ex-works
1x20'ft Container

A.) Origin Charge to Manila Port
Australian Origin Charges
Professional Packing at Residence, Loading and Delivery to Port -          USD    4,844.73
Australian Terminal Charges                                                   -          USD       647.62
Management / Agency Fee / Customs per Bill of Lading                        USD       193.13

Seafreight and Surcharges                                                                                                                         
Seafreight & Surcharges                                                                    USD       700.00
Shipping Line Doc Fee per Bill of Lading                                               USD         73.33 

Total Origin Charges to Manila Port                                                    USD     6,458.81 @ 47.15 = Php 304,532.89


B.) Local Charges Manila Port to La union

     a.)   Releasing in Manila - PHP 65,000.00 - Exclusive of duties and taxes, receipted charges and shipping charges.
         (This includes Processing, Handling, Docs & stamps Brokerage fees, arrastre/wharfage and Stripping Charges, Examination fee and DOF Processing)

     b.)   Delivery Charges    : Php 65,000.00/40’ft La Union (new rate as per ACTO and CTAP trucker’s fee)
     c.)   Shipping Charges   : Php 35,000.00/40’ft (due to additional charge of ECRS, CIC and IPCS)
     d.)   Demurrage Fee            : if any /billed at cost (7 days free time only from the date of arrival)
     e.)   Storage Fee       : if any/Billed at cost (5 days free from time of arrival at the port)
     f.)    Duty and Taxes    : at cost (depends on the DOF if they will grant your application for Duty and Tax Free)

ECRS    : Emergency Congestion Recovery Surcharge
CIC            : Container Imbalance Charge
IPCS            : Import Port Congestion Surcharge

Total Origin Charges and Manila Charge to Door = Php 469,532.89/20'ft

Reminders:
Please note that Demurrage, Storage charges and Duty and Taxes is excluded on our rate it may incur this charges as per note above.


Note: All Items must be declared. And cargo such as Electronics, Jewelries, and others that value is above 10,000.00 is subject to additional duty and taxes. Gun’s is prohibited.

Terms of Payment    : Full payment 2 days prior on vessel arrival.

Let me know if you have any other concerns and questions.

I am sure that would not be the end of the costs no matter what company we use and further to this is the problem with duties, no one can seem to answer my question on the US $7k exempt import duty, I have tried and will continue to chase an answer from customs and DOF, no one at this stage can help, it would appear that we are at the mercy of the customs valuer.
It is ludicrous to think one would move their household contents/belongings and only being allowed US $7k duty free.

A thought occurred, maybe I could lobby PRA into reviewing this, now theres something to get my teeth into, will keep updating as time goes on.

Maybe the moderators would like me to start a new thread on this?

Cheers, Steve
« Last Edit: March 09, 2016, 06:22:09 AM by Mr. Lee »

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Re: 20 ft shipping container Australia to Manila
« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2016, 06:18:01 AM »
Maybe the moderators would like me to start a new thread on this?

Cheers, Steve
Thanks Steve for your thoughtfulness posting this and considering it to be a new topic, I split the post and made it a new topic so it will be easier for other readers and members to find, great info, thanks again for posting it.
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Re: 20 ft shipping container Australia to Manila
« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2016, 08:18:32 AM »
Hi all, back again.
More costings, Mentioned in another post that it would cost us about AU $12K to move with a 20 ft shipping container, that was a guesstimate based on this. A reputable company in Australia,,,,,, looks good until you get to Manila,,,,,,,as follows:

Purchase a 20 ft in service container    AU $2.5K
Delivered to my address, left here for 1 to 2 months for us to pack/inventory etc. (with then gives us time to sell the property) then ship.
Pick up container/Brisbane/Sydney/Singapore/Manila, register with Australian customs, container parking slot fee, Australian export/entry terminal security, Brisbane port charges, fuel levies etc.     Au $ 6.2K

Looking good so far,,,,but,,,, This company will not deal with the off loading in Manila, they have learnt from bitter experience that it is too hard, (more fun in the Philippines) I apparently need to deal with a local broker and have available plenty of brown paper bags, this I don't doubt from my time both working and living there.
So I look at the cost of the Manila company,,,,,PHP 165 K about AU $ 5K
OZ and PI companys,,,,, AU $ 11.2 K
PI company, a tad under AU $ 15 K

We don't mind spending that sort of money to move as we could not replace a quarter of our belongings for that sort of cost.
PI duties and taxes, no one seems to be able to help, still working on that.

Cheers, Steve.

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Re: 20 ft shipping container Australia to Manila
« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2016, 08:22:25 AM »
Looks like the bulk of the expense is not the shipping but the "professional packing". I wonder if you could arrange for them to drop off the container at your residence and you hire your own packers at a lesser price or pack it yourself, even if you have to sign a damage waiver. Couldn't be that difficult.

Edit: I posted before I saw your updated info. I think you would be better off purchasing the container and packing yourself. You could always sell the container in the PI. I have seen homes made out of these.

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Re: 20 ft shipping container Australia to Manila
« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2016, 08:24:04 AM »
The local broker can give you a costing on the local duty and tax,

The Vat tax is 12% of the total cost of goods with shipping expense and duty added in. Most likely it will be 5% of declared value of goods do not under declare as they will confiscate your goods

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Re: 20 ft shipping container Australia to Manila
« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2016, 10:56:17 AM »
That seems a huge price for a 20foot. Certainly I would pack it myself. I have been quoted about AUS$5000 to ship from Ireland.

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Re: 20 ft shipping container Australia to Manila
« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2016, 11:56:43 AM »
Hi readers, 3 replies here.
CONCHYDONG, yes it would appear that the Aussie companies deal looks better and I can pack it myself, have done that personally and also with SEG where we ship 70 odd containers annually (20 and 40 footers), space is a premium and they're exempt from duties as long as what we bring in leaves again. SEG has done this twice in the last 4 years in PH.
I can pack our belongings and still get insurance with the Aussie shipping company.
We would keep the container once landed at home in PH, firstly giving us time to unpack and secondly extra storage/workshop etc.

COGON88, the local broker/company we are dealing with does not want to know about VAT or duties, that, apparently is in the hands of the Gods and that we need to talk to them,,,,,,,,,,,,am trying but like bashing your head against a brick wall. they have never heard of the SRRV etc, etc.

IAMJAMES, that appears to be the cost after many quotes, is your price of AU 5K landed in Manila or another port still on the boat or to your door including all costs? I have been to Ireland many years ago and know that it is at least 11,000 kms to PH and OZ is 4600 kms to PH.
If your rates tally up please let me know and I will approach your shipping company, keep us posted.

Cheers, Steve

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Re: 20 ft shipping container Australia to Manila
« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2016, 03:41:03 PM »
If your talking to a local broker that does not know about duties vat and the clearances for customs under the SRRV then you need another broker make sure you have all you paper work from the BI for your SRRv and the paper work from them for your duty free importation  if you ship it before you have this and the shipment arrives here ail be hell to pay and you'll be paying it

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Re: 20 ft shipping container Australia to Manila
« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2016, 04:06:48 PM »
Hi all, yes so far I have talked to 2 brokers in Manila and both have never heard of tax/duty exemptions regarding the SRRV, they have never heard of it until I have approached then,,,,,hence, Sir that will be customs and BOF, as I said in another post no one I have spoken to in those departments knows what I am talking about,,,,,,,good thing I have plenty of time to research/hassle the powers that be and I will be doing that starting with the PRA.
If you know of a broker that is up to speed on all this let me know and I will gladly talk to them.
Wish me luck, lol.
Cheers, Steve

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Re: 20 ft shipping container Australia to Manila
« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2016, 05:43:26 PM »
Good Luck Steve in advance

I use DHL Global i Manila for clearances

I did have a waver from the Department of Agriculture  a few years back on some equipment

if the SRRV wavier is like that you get there letter of certification from them on your import item

Your broker then takes it to the DOF who then issuers an exemption from duty and then your broker presents there certification to the BOC at the time of clearance

But if its just a few thousand dollars exemption it is probably not worth your time and hassle to go through all that mess

Good luck on the move wish you the best of luck

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Re: 20 ft shipping container Australia to Manila
« Reply #10 on: June 02, 2016, 04:24:22 AM »
You could save a ton of money if you have your 13a Visa or a resident here's a pdf file that explains, not sure who you would check with in Australia but it would be a Philippine Consulate.

http://www.philippineembassy-usa.org/uploads/pdfs/DutyFreeImportation.pdf

Should be a similar procedure for Australia.
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Re: 20 ft shipping container Australia to Manila
« Reply #11 on: June 02, 2016, 10:08:42 AM »
I have had to pay to set up an apartment 3 times now. The last time after being wiped out by typhoon yolanda.

A full 2 bedroom apartment of furniture does not cost me P469,000.

This place has sold me multiple beds, sofa sets and TV's
http://www.cebuappliancecenter.com/
Check them to get an idea of prices

Then see if it is worthwhile paying to send your stuff from Australia.

My personal very strong suggestion is to sell, give away or store most of what you have and just send the stuff that is precious to you by balikbayan box.
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Re: 20 ft shipping container Australia to Manila
« Reply #12 on: June 02, 2016, 10:15:18 AM »
If you don't know what a balikbayan box is

It is a tea chest sized cardboard box. You fill it with what ever you want. Most people charge by the box not by weight. So you just fill it with as much as you can. It costs about aud $200 to send a box. It arrives about 6 weeks later at your address in the Philippines. Check at your nearest asian store to see if they do balikbayan boxes.
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Re: 20 ft shipping container Australia to Manila
« Reply #13 on: June 02, 2016, 12:12:38 PM »
Forez shipping boxes presently cost less than $100. We've sent several that weighed over 150 lbs with no problems.
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Re: 20 ft shipping container Australia to Manila
« Reply #14 on: June 02, 2016, 05:36:27 PM »
Forez shipping boxes presently cost less than $100. We've sent several that weighed over 150 lbs with no problems.
What currency and country are you referring to?
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