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BI Alien Registration Division
« on: June 25, 2014, 10:16:07 PM »
I wonder what they mean by special demographics?

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The Bureau of Immigration (BI) through the Alien Registration Division (ARD) and Immigration Regulation Division (IRD) conducted training/seminar in the implementation of the Alien Registration Program (ARP). Said program aims to obtain an accurate census of all foreign nationals in the Philippines including specific demographics. Last 20 June 2014, around 17 Alien Control Officers (ACOs) from subport offices at the National Capital Region (NCR) and Luzon participated in the said event at the Makati Sports Club. L.P Leviste corner Gallardo St., Salcedo Village, Makati City pursuant to Travel Order Nos. SBM-2014-363 and SBM-2014-367, both dated 19 June 2014.
The ARP is a Department of Justice (DOJ)-BI initiative that reaches out to aliens on the Barangay level for the:
1) accounting of foreign nationals currently residing in the Philippines;
2) registering and re-registering of all aliens with biometric data;
3) biometric capturing;
4) updating of all alien data with BI records; and
5) provision of assistance to visa/immigration related problems.
Same seminars are scheduled to be conducted at the Crown Regency Hotel Towers (Prince Hall Function Room), Osmeña Boulevard, Cebu City. The same shall be participated by 8 subport offices in the Visayas Region pursuant to Travel Order Nos. SBM-2014-368 dated 23 June 2014.
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Re: BI Alien Registration Division
« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2014, 10:30:12 PM »
Lee,

I believe they are trying to update there files on expats living in high crime areas or just checking up on foreigners to see that there papers are up to date.

Recently I had the chief of the PNP visit me with several officers and asked that I fill out some forms mostly they wanted passport number, 13A visa number, contact numbers but nothing over the wall.

This ARD must be what they were compiling

They were very polite the chief gave his private cell number and asked me to call him if I ever needed anything

But make sure your papers are up to date never know who may come visiting

Tom / Roxas City


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Re: BI Alien Registration Division
« Reply #2 on: June 25, 2014, 11:08:24 PM »
I have had guys tell me that they (the barangay) in the past, when all this started, asked for a lot of personal information including source of income, amount of income, bank info, name and dob of children in the Philippines and where they went to school, name and contact info of children and parents back home, etc, many of the items that guys refused to answer as it COULD open them or their children up to kidnapping or worse. IMO there is nothing wrong with giving all contact info to the US Embassy but I would never give all that and financial info to a local level as we all know not everyone including many (not all) of those in the Philippine law enforcement community would be able to be trusted.
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Re: BI Alien Registration Division
« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2014, 07:24:32 AM »
Lee, Your correct its best not trust anyone here including other expats as every one has a dog in the fight.

The form did require children's names , sources of income. no bank info and it  only asked for contact information for the nearest relative in US in case of your demise.

I really do not know what would happen if your refused to fill it out as it is requirement.

I guess they just report that on to the BI who will have the right to repeal your visa for living here for non compliance its their country after all for the time being

The owner of Regency Hotel in Boracay and several other hotels in the Philippines was recently killed while having dinner with his employes in Davao, the chief suspect a senior police official
    
CEBU CITY – Police have filed criminal charges against a senior police official and three others in connection to the murder of Cebuano hotelier Richard King in Davao City in southern Philippines, official said Wednesday

As far as your bank accounts most robbers usually have inside information from a bank employee as to who is with drawing large amounts of cash and are tipped off in advance of the with drawl so no idea on how to keep that from getting out

But whether you keep a Low profile or High profile you are still considered rich outsider and if any weakness is perceived some one will take advantage of it

Just ask any trike driver in town about expats they will provide you a complete run down of all expats living in the area

Other then all of this its more Fun in the Philippines

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Tom/ Roxas City


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Re: BI Alien Registration Division
« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2014, 07:49:57 AM »
And this is where it all starts to get a little scary.

Police establish foreigners network in Cebu http://tinyurl.com/pyshxcv

CEBU, Philippines - The Philippine National Police is strengthening the establishment of the Foreign National Keepers Network, a mechanism that aims to profile and account foreign nationals living in a particular area.

Superintendent Rodulfo Albotra Jr., head of the Provincial Intelligence Branch, said yesterday that he has directed station commanders in the province to start establishing the network in their respective areas.

“They will account for all foreign nationals in their area of responsibility and ask to join the FNKN,” Albotra said.

Profiling is necessary, Albotra explained, because it would make it easier to trace foreign nationals who are engaged in crimes. He said the network would also open communication lines between foreigners and local police.

Work will not only be on the part of authorities as the foreign nationals themselves will be asked to police their ranks, so to speak, something that foreigners are reportedly glad about.

“They are very grateful to have this program and we are willing to have a formal seminar and recruitment also kay whatever their needs and the PNP’s needs, then we have good collaboration,” Albotra said.

At present, only Moalboal town in the southwestern part of the province has established the network and a seminar has been conducted there. Albotra said they are eyeing Bantayan Island as their next stop owing to the influx of foreign nationals there.

Albotra said the decision to establish the network is stemmed from cases in the province that involved foreign nationals, including pornography.

Recently, Australian national Peter James Robinson was arrested in Cordova town for his alleged involvement in human trafficking and child pornography. Charges were filed against him at the prosecutor’s office.

The establishment of the network came about after super typhoon Yolanda hit the Visayas last year. Because communication lines were cut-off, countries that gave aid coordinated with the police and a scheme was established to make access to Yolanda-hit area easier. —/JMO (FREEMAN)
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Re: BI Alien Registration Division
« Reply #5 on: June 28, 2014, 12:23:14 PM »
And this is where it all starts to get a little scary.

Police establish foreigners network in Cebu http://tinyurl.com/pyshxcv

CEBU, Philippines - The Philippine National Police is strengthening the establishment of the Foreign National Keepers Network, a mechanism that aims to profile and account foreign nationals living in a particular area.

Superintendent Rodulfo Albotra Jr., head of the Provincial Intelligence Branch, said yesterday that he has directed station commanders in the province to start establishing the network in their respective areas.

“They will account for all foreign nationals in their area of responsibility and ask to join the FNKN,” Albotra said.

Profiling is necessary, Albotra explained, because it would make it easier to trace foreign nationals who are engaged in crimes. He said the network would also open communication lines between foreigners and local police.

Work will not only be on the part of authorities as the foreign nationals themselves will be asked to police their ranks, so to speak, something that foreigners are reportedly glad about.

“They are very grateful to have this program and we are willing to have a formal seminar and recruitment also kay whatever their needs and the PNP’s needs, then we have good collaboration,” Albotra said.

At present, only Moalboal town in the southwestern part of the province has established the network and a seminar has been conducted there. Albotra said they are eyeing Bantayan Island as their next stop owing to the influx of foreign nationals there.

Albotra said the decision to establish the network is stemmed from cases in the province that involved foreign nationals, including pornography.

Recently, Australian national Peter James Robinson was arrested in Cordova town for his alleged involvement in human trafficking and child pornography. Charges were filed against him at the prosecutor’s office.

The establishment of the network came about after super typhoon Yolanda hit the Visayas last year. Because communication lines were cut-off, countries that gave aid coordinated with the police and a scheme was established to make access to Yolanda-hit area easier. —/JMO (FREEMAN)


I have to agree with this effort to identify  the foreign  nationals here, on several levels.  Though most of us are a plus to the country there are several I personally have met that are here for some of the afore mentioned reasons and a lot that were not mentioned.
During Yolanda an American showed up on my doorstep saying he heard a brother American lived here, my housekeeper came and got me and when I went to the gate sure enough there was this guy standing there.  I invited him in and we sat in my carport and had a beer, his story was as follows:
He lived in Cambodia and had a Filipino band that worked in his resort, the Filipino guy asked him to come here and check on his house and family.  He was setting up a relief fund for the area and would give the money directly to the people circumventing the government red tape. From me he wanted support and the use of my computer.  Which I politely declined.  When he left I told my family he was not to be allowed past the gate and to call me if he showed up again.  I then picked up the phone and called the Head of Intelligence for Leyte PNP who is a acquaintance of mine and gave them his name, location and the story.  It turned out he pretty much made a living going around to different countries during crisis times setting up phony relief agency's. 
For me I have to remember that when I was in the US there were plenty of bad guys, and just because I'm here it does not mean that every guy you meet that has an accent from home is a good guy..
On the second or third day after the storm the American Embassy rep came by the house to verify I was ok, he had a list about three pages long of American expats that he was trying to find. 
At no time has anybody either from my government or this one ever asked me about financial information.  I assume the American government would if I wanted to take Maline to the states to verify that I could afford it.
For me I do not mind being Profiled as all it would say is I try to raise my family and help were I can..I wish the US would do more profiling..
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Re: BI Alien Registration Division
« Reply #6 on: June 29, 2014, 10:26:55 AM »
Well it sure got scary for these Characters / tom  / Roxas City


BI nabs 29 foreign fugitives in 5 mos
By Vito Barcelo | Jun. 29, 2014 at 12:01am

THE Bureau of Immigration has captured a total of 29 foreign fugitives during the past five months this year, including one of the United States’ most wanted criminals.

Americans accounted for the most number of undesirable aliens rounded up by the BI agents with 14, followed by Koreans, 4; Chinese, 3; Taiwan; 2; Japanese, 2; German, 1; Italian; 1; Netherlands, 1; and Swedish, 1, according to immigration chief Siegfred Mison.

BI records show that at least 80 fugitive aliens were apprehended by the bureau in coordination with other law enforcement agencies in the year 2013.

Of last year’s total, 30 Korean fugitives topped the list of those arrested, followed by 17 Americans and two Chinese.

He identified one of the most wanted Americans as Elbert Kyung Ma alias Andrew Lee, 32, a convict for manslaughter, who was arrested in Barangay Commonwealth, Quezon City by BI intelligence operatives after months of surveillance.

Mison identified the other four US fugitives as Jeffrey Louis Ochs, 54; Charlie Alog, 62; Michael Robert Cronin, 31; and Danielle Nopuente, 49.

As of May this year, Mison said 29 fugitives, at least 10 US nationals, one Italian and one Dutchman are involved in sexual offenses and child pornography. All 12 sex offenders have been deported immediately, according to Mison.

In his recent order, Mison barred the entry of aliens convicted of sexual crimes as reported by the foreign embassies. The ban includes those reportedly engaged in cybersex and child pornography.

Eight others wanted for other types of crimes have been summarily deported while the rest are subjects of summary deportation proceedings.

At least nine of the undesirable aliens are wanted for fraud, embezzlement, forgery of document and extortion.

One is wanted for parole violation for murder, two for drugs, one for robbery, one for wire fraud and one for economic crimes.

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Re: BI Alien Registration Division
« Reply #7 on: June 30, 2014, 02:55:29 PM »
Kudo's to the Philippine BI.

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Re: BI Alien Registration Division
« Reply #8 on: June 30, 2014, 03:41:57 PM »
Unless one is hiding from something why would they even care, however with that being said, there are certain things I prefer outsiders not knowing about me. I f they want my demographics info that fine, but what would the purpose of more be needed for.

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« Reply #9 on: June 30, 2014, 04:13:44 PM »
Back in 2004 i lived in lintuan, loon here in bohol; was well known as an ok guy; the police there asked me to be a laison for them and get the names of all foreigners living in the area and if they had a problem to give it to me and i in return would notify the barangay captain; lol. of course i refused to involve myself. I told them that they should contact the embassy or philippines BI for such doings, and that is still my answer today; if they want my personal info i am registered with the embassy get it from them...but my income is not earned here and as long as i can produce the required amount determinined by the BI all i give is my passport info, 13/A info, and my good looks.....lol. if by chance there is a change i would chek with the embassy for what to do.
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« Reply #10 on: June 30, 2014, 05:43:13 PM »
if they want my personal info i am registered with the embassy get it from them.

I think you had better re-think your statement

The US embassy as of yet does not set the rules for your right to have a Philippine Visa and your statement will more then likely not go over well with the local officials

So in other words if the RP wants your information you have a choice give it to them or go home

If under the new law you do not provide the requested information it may cost you the right to live here

Either way I'm sure you will have some explaining to do when you get your visa renewed or do your annual report at the friendly

BI office.

Good Luck

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« Reply #11 on: June 30, 2014, 06:16:39 PM »
Thanks FMSINC, will keep that in mind...
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« Reply #12 on: July 01, 2014, 06:21:55 AM »
Hot off the press[ The main reason for the recent BI shakeup and need to know the complete status of foreigners staying here is due to the fact great numbers of them do not have enough support; some are illeagally trying to run a business, great numbers of them have out dated passport privilidges, and some even wanted by the law in their own countries; some have failed to even report to the BI... obtaining info from the foreigner is not designed to be used for any other purpose than to ensure proper adherence to the law;...................................i hope that is the only reason. lol.
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« Reply #13 on: July 01, 2014, 06:58:15 AM »
I'm sure is is so many of them had read the bogs live like a millionaire on $500 USD a month in a beach front house, have a maid and driver and have a girl friend 40 yrs younger and be treated like a king by the locals.

Most of the foreigners that are showing up in our area all fit the above description most stay 6 months some with a little money stay a little longer

Most you would not want to associate with so I can understand the clamp down in fact they should raise the requirements in my opinion to get a visa to live here

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« Reply #14 on: July 01, 2014, 03:01:22 PM »
I'm sure is is so many of them had read the bogs live like a millionaire on $500 USD a month in a beach front house, have a maid and driver and have a girl friend 40 yrs younger and be treated like a king by the locals.

Most of the foreigners that are showing up in our area all fit the above description most stay 6 months some with a little money stay a little longer


When I hear this, it irks the hell out of me. I have not met any expat who can live here on $500 a month. Can it be done . . . well in a nipa hut in the deep province, living exactly as the locals do, maybe. Then yes, to those locals you would seem to be living like a king.

As to providing my info- if they provided the correct credentials, show me the documentation authorizing them to collect said info, I would comply, but with the bare minimum required. Even then, I would suspect the info not going into the right hands.

Hey, but I tend to be a little suspicious and paranoid anyway.
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