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Offline David690

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Re: UK NHS
« Reply #15 on: March 14, 2019, 01:17:20 PM »
If you rent property, the local council will put you on the voting register. I would have thought that this would go a long way towards being shown as settled. The whole system seems a bit vague and is down to individual interpretation.

I don't see how being on the voting register shows that you are settled.  Pretty sure Im on the voting register but haven't been settled in UK for 40 years.  If your passport shows endless tourist visas, or a residence visa for Philippines, i think you'd have a tough time showing that you're settled in UK, until you actually take up full time residence there.
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Re: UK NHS
« Reply #16 on: April 01, 2019, 07:54:22 PM »
I don't see how being on the voting register shows that you are settled.  Pretty sure Im on the voting register but haven't been settled in UK for 40 years.  If your passport shows endless tourist visas, or a residence visa for Philippines, i think you'd have a tough time showing that you're settled in UK, until you actually take up full time residence there.

Quite right - voting register doesn't prove residency, or more precisely that you are "ordinarily resident", which is the **eligibility criteria for NHS treatment**.

So, what they are trying to avoid, for example, is someone who has lived in Philippines (and so not been ordinarily resident in UK) whizzing back home for some free treatment and then whizzing back to Philippines again.

Basically if you are are a British Citizen living in the UK for more than just a holiday, and can prove that (job, house, rent, utility bills etc) you are entitled to free NHS. If you are not a British Citizen there are a few more hoops as there's proving you are actually entitled to be here in the first place - which you might be asked about...

There is an in-depth document here:

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/730141/Ways_in_which_people_can_be_lawfully_resident_in_the.pdf

But it is simpler for British Citizens as they have "right of abode", so if you can prove you are settled on a longer term basis that's all you need. So how to prove you are settled on a longer term basis? There seems to be no hard and fast rules as living arrangements can be quite varied. For example, if you've rented a place for 12 months and have a job that's probably enough. If you are retired, but have taken on a rented place, or are living at home and have utility bills and bills that show you are actually living in UK, etc, that's also enough. If, however you are in temporary accommodation (AirBnB, or staying with a relative) that would probably be a little bit suspect, as you might not be "ordinarily resident". Likewise, bank account would not be enough, as you could have one in UK but be usually resident in Philippines.

I guess it's down to the individual to prove their intentions...

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Re: UK NHS
« Reply #17 on: April 02, 2019, 02:20:03 PM »
If you rent property, the local council will put you on the voting register. I would have thought that this would go a long way towards being shown as settled. The whole system seems a bit vague and is down to individual interpretation.

Colin.

Ever so slightly off NHS topic. But no too far off.  :)

Are you sure that the local councils have the power or authority to place you on the Electoral Roll? The last time I was registered as a voter (Scarborough in 1982) I had to personally apply to the Local Electoral Officer, to go on the Roll, submitting with my application proof I was permanently residing in the voting ward/area, as that was the Electoral Law at the time.

IMHO, if a third party (Council etc.) has the power to place someone on the roll 'in toto', then that could possibly lead to electoral corruption. particularly if the individual so placed knew nothing about the use of his/her name.  "Ghost voters" could then be involved.

Peter
« Last Edit: April 02, 2019, 02:26:52 PM by Peter »
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Re: UK NHS
« Reply #18 on: April 03, 2019, 03:11:10 PM »
Perhap a slight correction, when I started to rent, the council sent me a form to return to  the electoral officer who then included us on the electoral register. We were not asked for any proof of residence.
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