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Offline Lee2

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I am still happily using 7 and IMO it would be great if I never have to upgrade, heck I have friends in the Philippines including some knowledgeable expats still using XP and seem happy to continue, as long as business sites will continue to support it, most of the ATM machines in the Philippines still run on XP.
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Windows 12 is all about VR
Yes, you’ve read that right! Our sources from the company confirmed that Microsoft is planning to release a new operating system called Windows 12 in early 2019. Indeed, there will be no Windows 11, as the company decided to jump straight to Windows 12.

The reason behind this name is rather a symbolic one. Windows 12 is the bridge between the classic Windows OS and the new innovative OS. It marks the beginning of a new era in personal computing: the VR era.
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Re: Microsoft skips Windows 11, announces Windows 12 in early 2019
« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2018, 05:15:32 AM »
VR Era? I've never had any need to strap on a VR headset to my head, but I guess it's coming to teach this old dog new tricks.  ;D
I'm still a diehard fan of Windows Vista, which still hasn't given me any problems even without any tech support.
I still find Windows 10 a pain in my rear to use and now 12 is coming in early 2019 with this VR stuff! Will there be a VR handset that can be strapped on for VR physical sensations? That would be interesting for sure.
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Re: Microsoft skips Windows 11, announces Windows 12 in early 2019
« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2018, 09:15:21 AM »
What I can't understand - no, tolerate is a better word - is the arrogance of u$.

They are planning to release yet another version of windohs when they haven't got the basics correct on anything after XP. Or win 7 in the respected views of others.

I "have" to use "doh 10' as it came pre-installed on my (2016) Lenovo laptop. BUT..... after doing "must do" win 10 stuff, using new programmes that are not back-compatible, I restart the new one in Linux Mint. As as now! :)

Of the other 2 older machines I have, 1 runs XP without any problems and 1 has a permanent Linux O/S. All are quicker on boot up and XP takes a lot less HDD space than doh 10.

But to each their own.

Peter - Born in the first half of the last century and not ready to be dragged into the u$ view of this one.  Not just yet anyway. ??? ??? ???
« Last Edit: May 21, 2018, 09:22:29 AM by Peter »
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Re: Microsoft skips Windows 11, announces Windows 12 in early 2019
« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2018, 10:54:19 AM »
Technology is only going to continue to speed up.  My first computer dealt in bytes.  Just bytes.  A megabyte hard drive was huge.  Then we moved to megabytes.  Then to gigabytes.  Now terabytes for a good sized hard drive. 
Same is true to the screen graphics, the sound cards, the processors, the memory, and everything else related to computers.
The VR age is coming and it's much sooner than I think most of us are ready for.  Video game systems are already set with it and making games for it where you need them.  These are our teenagers that "need" the VR headsets to play games.  They will be adults and working and buying things for their lives in 10 years.  In 20, most first world countries will have at least 1 VR headset in their home.
I actually was curious about these when I saw them on Lazada being advertised.  These things are going to be big.  Talking of them being used in everything.  From 3D HD movies being seen in them to their use in the corporate world where rather than traveling to a meeting somewhere you will be in a virtual board meeting from your office or home.  They are already in gaming and other industries like porn.  There is talk of using them along with some very minor robot setups for much more than just porn. 
Then stuff like sims when that game was big(never played it, but understand it to be people living in a virtual world through avatars on a screen) but in 3d and much more involved.  I think this is as dangerous as it is good.  Can see a lot of introverts staying in their homes and living in fantasy worlds instead of the real one because so much is able to be made real with what's coming.
Also, the same introductory AI that will be needed to do all of this is going to have an impact in medicine also.  Big time.  By introductory AI(it's what I read it described as in multiple articles, but do not like the name) what is meant is not true AI, but a very in depth programming concerning stimuli and responses.  By the thousands.  Siri, Cortana, and more are those types of programs that can recognize voices despite the accent, and understand not just the words but the meanings of them when put together and then respond accordingly with proper wording.  The recent video that was on this site from Lee I think about what Google has where a very human sounding voice can call and set appointments is another version of this introductory AI. 
The medical society is working very hard on using that type of computing with nanobots/nanites inside the human body.  There are many avenues being researched to do this and it will only take one breakthrough for the industry to be able to help a lot of people with serious diseases and medical conditions to find peace. 
And all this is getting a lot of attentions through things like VR.  And the more people spend money on VR and it's tech the more the research for it is going to cross over into other fields and as the old saying goes, rising water lifts all boats.
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Re: Microsoft skips Windows 11, announces Windows 12 in early 2019
« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2018, 10:05:19 PM »
What I can't understand - no, tolerate is a better word - is the arrogance of u$.

Of the other 2 older machines I have, 1 runs XP without any problems and 1 has a permanent Linux O/S.
Peter - Born in the first half of the last century and not ready to be dragged into the u$ view of this one.  Not just yet anyway. ??? ??? ???

I believe many or most ppl that are really computer savvy will consider and often times use Linux of some flavor.  It is much simpler and robust these days.  For the person that has the knowledge and ability to re-image or build from scratch one of these complex machines (probably the most complicated machine most ppl personally touch)  it is stronger, better,  and so on.  It is like in the old days when by surgery we would place a Porsche engine into a VW beetle car.  After it was working,  it was awesome albeit might need a special mechanic in case of trouble.

Do you mean arrogance of u$ or Micro$oft ?
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Re: Microsoft skips Windows 11, announces Windows 12 in early 2019
« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2018, 08:14:27 AM »
< Do you mean arrogance of u$ or.......>

In engineering, "u" can be used as the Greek letter "mu' meaning 'micro'. So a $ sign, preceeded by a "u" = Microsoft. A cynical term actually meaning "Nothing will work until you pay big bucks!"i

This description of them has been in use for at around 20 years to my knowledge. Since their first disasterous attempt to upgrade to Win 97.

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Re: Microsoft skips Windows 11, announces Windows 12 in early 2019
« Reply #6 on: May 23, 2018, 07:38:13 PM »
I thought Microsoft said Windows 10 would be The Last Ever Windows as it would be updated seamlessly in the background!  :o

I was a Windows user right through from Windows 3.0 to NT 4.0. I'm a Mac OS X user now since June 2007.

However, on my last contract gig they gave me an Lenovo Ultrabook running Windows 10 and I have to say I was darn impressed. That combo was fast. I'm normally a mouse-free user, but I found with a small, good quality cordless mouse, and flamboyant use of the right-click (for context) you can work really fast with Win 10.

I think if you have the right hardware Windows 10 seemed very fast to me - but then I guess anything would.

Anyway, interesting to see the Windows lineage will continue! I am also interested to see that Windows/Linux combo thing Microsoft are cooking up - it could be really cool or a dog's breakfast - not tried it out yet though.

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Re: Microsoft skips Windows 11, announces Windows 12 in early 2019
« Reply #7 on: May 24, 2018, 10:03:21 AM »
Lee.

I've been an Acer fan since I got one of their scanners in 1995. Good quality materials and built like a "brick built sh*t house", if you'll pardon the French.  8)

Since them I've had an original IBM, followed by a number of Acer Aspire laptops. After u$ upgrades, Acer's installed tech and software, as was the case with all manufacturers, was incompatible, so I got the next generation Acers. I've installed versions of Linux (started with Red Hat) on the old ones from around 2008.

The only reason I got this Lenovo 'IdeaPad' was, I wanted one NOW as I was going on an unexpected trip, it was in the shop (others had to be ordered) and in the price range I wanted to pay.

I'll admit it took some time to get used to it - no <Fn F6> to kill the screen for instance. And not having an easily replaceable battery was another downside. It requires 13 screws to be removed, the base cover dropped and then the battery can be accessed. Not that I need one just yet, but never say never.

First thing I did to it was install Linux Mint as part of a dual boot setup. Linux boots up in 19 seconds and runs like an express train. Windohs, like a tortoise on mogodon, takes anything up to 5 times that, on a good day with the wind astern!  ;D

I'm not an Apple fan, mainly on their pricing, although the O/S is reported to be pretty stable. But not for me. This old leopard (pun intended) won't change his spots.  :) :) :)

< ...  I am also interested to see that Windows/Linux combo thing Microsoft are cooking up -  ... >

The one for smartphones?

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Re: Microsoft skips Windows 11, announces Windows 12 in early 2019
« Reply #8 on: May 24, 2018, 06:44:36 PM »
I wonder why the ATM machines are so sluggish and it appears many run on XP.  I was gung-ho for Win 10 till it eventually crashed both of my desktops and ruined one of my hard drives that ended up an expensive lesson so I now run both on Windows 7, I won't be in any hurry for Windows 12.
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Re: Microsoft skips Windows 11, announces Windows 12 in early 2019
« Reply #9 on: May 24, 2018, 07:05:23 PM »
I wonder why the ATM machines are so sluggish and it appears many run on XP.  I was gung-ho for Win 10 till it eventually crashed both of my desktops and ruined one of my hard drives that ended up an expensive lesson so I now run both on Windows 7, I won't be in any hurry for Windows 12.

They run on u$ Server 2000, I was told some years ago. This is based on XP, but with regular security updates unlike XP.

For those who run XP, these updates are supposed to update XP as well. But I haven't tried that yet.

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Re: Microsoft skips Windows 11, announces Windows 12 in early 2019
« Reply #10 on: June 06, 2018, 06:17:17 AM »
Interesting,

I clicked on the link in the original post and noted the date of the article was 1 April 2017.

The final paragraph is:

"To conclude this surprising piece of news, we remind you that today is April Fools’ Day. Microsoft is indeed trying to make VR accessible and affordable to the general public, but we have no clue as to what features Windows 12 will bring — and if there will be a Windows 12 OS."

I therefore think the whole article was a prank.

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Re: Microsoft skips Windows 11, announces Windows 12 in early 2019
« Reply #11 on: June 06, 2018, 06:32:32 AM »
Interesting,

I clicked on the link in the original post and noted the date of the article was 1 April 2017.

The final paragraph is:

"To conclude this surprising piece of news, we remind you that today is April Fools’ Day. Microsoft is indeed trying to make VR accessible and affordable to the general public, but we have no clue as to what features Windows 12 will bring — and if there will be a Windows 12 OS."

I therefore think the whole article was a prank.

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You could be correct, thank you for pointing that out, yet here is a video dated Dec 2017 so who knows, IMO nothing on the internet nowadays can be totally trusted.
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Re: Microsoft skips Windows 11, announces Windows 12 in early 2019
« Reply #12 on: June 06, 2018, 09:51:11 AM »
Didn't read the article until what Brett typed and now I have questions.  I just googled windows 12 and got that video as well as a few sites discussing the release date.  Those sites put the release date much further out. 
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Re: Microsoft skips Windows 11, announces Windows 12 in early 2019
« Reply #13 on: June 07, 2018, 12:12:17 AM »
I'll continue to run my Win7 Pro until the day I drop. I have no issues, no virus problems, no security problems, everything runs as smooth as silk. Maybe it's just me? Also, I have no "need" to upgrade to anything else. All of my software runs fine on Win7. I have no touch screen system, and my digitizing software would require a major upgrade if I upgraded my OS. The CAD system upgrade alone would be a couple grand. I'll continue to be happy as a simple old fart with a relatively simple OS
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Re: Microsoft skips Windows 11, announces Windows 12 in early 2019
« Reply #14 on: June 07, 2018, 07:52:04 AM »
I'll continue to run my Win7 Pro until the day I drop. I have no issues, no virus problems, no security problems, everything runs as smooth as silk. Maybe it's just me? Also, I have no "need" to upgrade to anything else. All of my software runs fine on Win7. I have no touch screen system, and my digitizing software would require a major upgrade if I upgraded my OS. The CAD system upgrade alone would be a couple grand. I'll continue to be happy as a simple old fart with a relatively simple OS
I too chose to stay with 7. I even disabled updates so they couldn't force it.

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