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How to tell if your Net girlfriend is scamming you. 

Another LINP3 member wrote a couple of things for you to watch out and look for

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How to tell if your Net girlfriend is scamming you.  One of the livinginthephilippines3 members said;



Yes, calling her cell (mobile phone) is a good one, occasionally she will really have a "LOW BAT" but not too often.

It's also very easy for you (just like it is for her) to get a separate email address and send her chats and emails and you'll find out right away if she's faithful. Most of the scammer girls have so many men chatting that they won't know where u came from, just think u came off a chat room, in fact if they ask, just say you saw them in a chat room. It seems kind of underhanded to be doing this but like someone said, It's a new world we live in cyber world.
 
Another thing to look for is how their English in chats and texts matches up with their English when you speak in person or on the phone. Lots of girls have their English fluent friends (amigas) helping them chat.

My little pear turns out to be a real slut, lots of sex chat, she has over twenty men she is communicating with and several who will be in her city in the next month or few. She'll be having sex immediately with them, and good luck to them all in the disease department. Glad I found her out before I arrive.  I have no desire to be in line with a bunch of other guys.
 
She's now also working in a short time hotel as a massage girl (prostitute) and I shudder to think of the little petri dish now. She tells all the men the same thing. Getting divorced, how I mistreated her, I love you so much honey, my future husband, can't wait to see you, on and on. She has the copy and paste technique down pat and sends the same loving emails to all the guys

Kind of pathetic for the guys. I'd really recommend just going to the Philippines and meeting girls during the course of your day, (not night) Girls who are in school or working in department stores etc.

The Philippines is full of many nice girls to meet and it's really an unwise move to waste your time on chatting with girls on the net. Too much chance for head and heartache. Anyway, this site is about LIVING IN THE PHILIPPINES so if you are going to live in the PI, just go there and hang out and you'll meet plenty of nice girls.

If you're looking for a wife to bring back to your country, good luck, but that is not really the forte of this site is it? Lots of luck guys, enjoy life!



Another LINP3 member wrote a couple of things for you to watch out and look for. . .
 

I have listed a couple of things for you to watch out for and look for.

1. I would shy away from girl that are very internet proficient, or least watch them "very closely." Why are they so proficient at using the internet? A job or what?

2. I strongly suggest use of a cam, sometimes you can  actually see them typing and your not getting messages. Some girls are really fast typers and can chat with several guys at one time. With a cam, it also helps to verify that they are "actually girls." Many

men impersonate women on the internet.

3. Getting messages that don't seem to pertain to your conversation. Sometimes they get their "wires crossed" and forget to switch windows.
4. If your girl has a cell phone she should pretty much be reachable at anytime. So call at different times like Friday & Saturday nights, in the middle of the day etc.
5. Asking for money. A nice Filipina usually has a very hard time doing this.
6. Check out their profiles to see how long they have had it. New profiles could translate into a new scam, though thesis not etched in stone.
7. Ask a lot of questions, and archive all chats, e-mails for review at a later date. Plus if your relationship last, you will need these to help support a "proof of relationship" if you decided to marry her.
8. Get to know the family, and neighbors. Though sometimes they will lie too, but more so the family. They like $$$ too.
9. Multiple screen names  if she has several it's a "red flag." She might ask you to switch to her "other screen name."
10. If and when you decide to send her money, if she seems "to familiar with knowing the ropes" that could be a red flag. This would indicate she has received money before ... why?
11. Before you go off to see her .. get a COPY of her Birth Cert. No exceptions .... One of the biggest scams going on right now is under age girls setting up guys and extorting money from them so they don't have to go to jail. The parents are "in" on this.
12. Her telling you that she loves you right off the bat.
13. Wanting to come to America or your country to be with you. Though this is not a guarantee she is a scammer, but a girl in love with "you" would be happy having you move to her country too, if her motive is to be with "you."
14. Do they work? Where does their chat money come from?
15. Talking sex ... Most good Filipina's are very reserved, and have higher moral values than here in the USA.
16. Refusing to talk openly about past relationships if any.
17. Does she go to church regularly? And does she live what she says she believes?
18. Check her out .. have a friend try and get next to her, and she if she responds positively to his advances.
19. Does she think about you and your needs or more about her and her needs? Is she "win-win"?
20. Does she "pressure" you in any way?
21. Does she treat others with respect? her parents, friends, ex's, authority figures ? Look for signs of inconsistency, and expect to be treated the way she treats "others" after your relationship "settles in."
22. How does she seem to handle money?
23. Does she appear to be "focused" on money, status, materialism, or image? If so these values are superficial, beware ! Finally, does she appear to have a noble character, be truth- worthy, is she helpful, have humility, a servants heart, is she industrious, does she plan ahead for possible problems, she is "needy," does she build people "up" or tear them down, does she have a happy, well-adjusted personality, and again ... is she praised and respected by family and friends?

Hope this helps .... but remember the only guarantee is ... there are "no guarantee's.


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A member who's wife worked as a manager in an Internet Cafe gives the low down from his wife's unique perspective on Internet Relationships in answer to another poster on our mailing list you can join at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/
LivingInThePhilippines3

You are right, George. There are Internet scams everywhere. You can't say that they are "worse" anywhere since the Internet recognizes no borders. It's not a question of "some Filipina's" scamming foreigners. All you need to do is spend a some time in any of the hundreds of Internet cafes surrounding the schools and colleges in the RP to see that the greater number of participants are far more interested in computer games than anything else. You will also see quite a number of Filipinos chatting with foreigners. My wife managed several Internet cafes while going to school and afterwards and she has stories that might amaze you! There are many boys and girls, transvestites and gays, engaged in the foreigner game. Many are in it for the money, some of them just for fun. There are cliques who challenge each other with more outrageous tricks; trying to get a foreigner to expose himself on his webcam for instance. The more successful of them play their foreigners, knowing just what words to use to extract a few dollars without ever having to ask directly. According to my wife, it is harder to find legitimate girls who use the cafes to "chat" with their foreigner b/f's because they are often ridiculed by the others. She and I used e-mail because she drew less attention than if she were to be using chat or a webcam, but then we knew each other very well before we even started Internet communication.

Bottom line...DON'T SEND MONEY to someone half way around the world who you've never seen! You may be supporting a gay or a guy with a family who look quite amazing on a webcam, or you might be an unwitting party to games being played by a group of barkadas for fun. Take the trip. See that person eye-ball to eye-ball; get to know her, her friends and family in person! Then, and only then, make up your mind whether you want to send money. At least then you'll have some idea where your money is going.

Another thing, these "scams" go both ways! She tells me that a number of foreigners use the chat rooms to line up their "entertainment" while planning vacations to the RP. They tend to play the provincial girls, some distance from the cafe's clustered around the colleges, where young people aren't quite so savvy.

I know that as sure as I'm sitting here, that these words will be ignored by those who know that "their girl" is the exception
 

*By way of disclaimer, Living in the Philippines should mention that it doesn't have an affiliate relationship with any of these entities.*

Two Hundred Thousand Pinoys Offering Cyber Sex From the Cybersex Department.

“More than 200,000 Filipinos — women, men and possibly children — are offering sex via the Internet, Catanduanes Rep. Joseph Santiago revealed yesterday.

[If this is a true number, and it could be, my bet is the vast majority of these Filipinas, and Filipino's many gay, only signed up, but don't check their accounts. Filipinos spend money on rice not Internet. It has one of the lowest Internet usage ratios in the world. And the ubiquitous cell phone takes what discretionary funds most have. The cell phone inhibits Internet growth among the masses, I am convinced.]

He said one website claims to have a list of 212,257 potential online sexual partners from the Philippines… He said based on what that site says, ‘the Philippines now has the world’s 15th largest list of possible sexual partners on the Internet.

We find this surprising considering that outside the office, very few Filipinos have ready access to personal computers with an Internet connection,’ he said. ‘This only suggests that a number of Internet shops may be fronting for cyber sex operations and there are many gangs here running clandestine cyber sex dens,’ he added. ‘We are gravely worried that going forward, as the country’s Internet users increase, illicit cyber sex activities will also proliferate. Cyber sex operators corrupt and prostitute our women and children. They should be dealt with severely,’ he said.” —Philippine Headline News Online (Philippines).

That being said, however, you get the sense that this is the one of those pseudo-issues that politicians love to drum up now and then. Probably he was cruising for casual sex himself and happened to note that there were so many “pinoys” or Filipinos on AdultFriendFinder. Why not raise a hue and a cry, he must have thought, about the way the internet is corrupting the local morals? It’s always a safe way to polish an image or garner a few votes. After all, who would publicly admit that they want to see the local morals corrupted?

Once you consider the matter, it shouldn’t be all that surprising that the Philippines has the world’s fifteenth largest list of cybersex partners. In the first place, it’s the twelfth most populous country in the world, so there are plenty of people to offer themselves online. In the second place, sex is already big business in the Philippines. It has long been known as one of the “established sex tourist destinations.” In the third place, internet usage is exploding in the Philippines, just as it is in other parts of the world. According to a report written a few years ago, “the Internet has become more accessible through schools, offices, libraries and Internet cafes…

A proliferation of Internet prepaid cards means access costs are lower compared to monthly subscriptions… ‘The internet market is growing slowly but surely in the Philippines, and given our population potential, the Philippine internet user may become a very important part of the internet economy…’” And that “internet economy” doubtless involves lots of sex.

[I feel the marriages made though the mail order bride sites, about 6,000 a year will not bring in as much money as the cyber sex business. But the cyber sex businesses will bring in money mostly to the foreigner's who finance the illicit and I guess illegal cafes where women and men can disrobe. The existing laws are not effective in keeping these poor people from being exploited. Like pimps, the operators don't even have to pay minimum wage!" Don October 4, 2005]

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The daily use of a variety of communication technologies, such as email, instant messaging, and the mobile phone, is now a fact of life for an increasing number of people, both at work and in their personal life. At work these technologies are relied upon for a wide range of tasks, such as collaborating with colleagues, reporting to superiors and communicating with customers. At home they are used to stay in touch with family and friends, and for involvement in local communities.

As communication technologies become more ubiquitous in our daily interactions, an important question is raised: how does the design of these technologies affect the phenomenon of lying? Lying is an important, and frequent, part of everyday social interactions.

Research from social psychology suggests as many as one third of typical daily interactions involve some form of deception. This can be defined as a “deliberate attempt, without forewarning, to create in another a belief which the communicator considers to be untrue.” DePaulo and her colleagues, for example, have observed that university students report telling about two lies a day, while non-student populations report about one a day.

The types of lies observed in these studies vary, from small “white” lies, in which inconsequential lies are told to be tactful or polite (such as saying “I love your haircut” when in fact you do not), to more serious lies (such as denying an affair).

How does the increased use of communication technologies affect these kinds of deceptions in our day-to-day social interactions? The design of various technologies creates very different communicative environments that may have important implications for lying behaviour. The telephone, for example, allows people in different physical locations to communicate with vocal and prosodic cues intact, while text-based media such as email and instant messaging, eliminate or distort nonverbal channels. We asked whether speakers were more or less likely to lie on the phone, in an email, or during an instant messaging exchange than they are face-to-face. Are different types of lies more likely to be told in one medium than in others?

We have examined deception in the three most commonly used daily communication media, the telephone, email and instant messaging, in an effort to determine how the design of these technologies affects lying behaviour.

Participants were students drawn from upper-level Communications courses at a north-eastern American university, and they all participated for course credit. There were 28 subjects: 13 males, 17 females, with an average age of 21. They reported lying about 1.6 times a day on average, and about one out of every four of their interactions involved a lie, replicating DePaulo’s original estimates, which indicated that students lied 1.9 times a day on average, and that a third of their social interactions involved some deception.

The primary objective of our study, however, was to determine the effect of the design of different communication media on lying behaviour during everyday social interactions. Although the total number of lies was greatest in the face-to-face setting, the highest proportion of lies occurred in telephone conversations, with 37 per cent of phone interactions involving some deception, significantly higher than lies in face-to-face conversations (27 per cent).

Two prominent theories suggest that a single underlying dimension influences the probability of deception. Media Richness Theory predicts speakers will choose the richest media, (specifically face to face) to lie most frequently. However, we found this was not the case; telephone interactions involved significantly more lies than face-to-face interactions, suggesting that a media’s richness is not the primary factor operating in lying behaviour across media.

The Social Distance Hypothesis argues that speakers will choose less-rich media when engaging in deception in order to avoid the discomfort associated with lying. Contrary to the Social Distance Hypothesis, in our study significantly fewer lies were reported in the least rich media, email, and no difference was observed between instant messaging and face-to-face. It seems the social distance of communication technology, and the relief from the discomfort of being deceptive that it may provide, does not predict everyday lying behavior.

Both theories are overly simplistic. Communication media can be differentiated along a number of design features that are not captured by either richness or social distance.

Our model predicts that according to the degree in which a medium 1) allows for synchronous interaction, 2) is record less, and 3) is distributed (that is, the parties are not in the same place), the greater the frequency of lying that should occur in that medium.

Our study shows that telephone interactions, which are distributed, synchronous and record less, had the greatest rate of deception. Face-to-face interactions, which are synchronous and record less but not distributed, involved the next highest rate of deception, while email, which is distributed but not synchronous or record less, had the lowest rate of deception. Instant messaging, which did not differ in the rate of lying from face-to-face interactions, is distributed and nearly synchronous, but is recorded in a log file.

Our study suggests that the design of communication technology, such as email, instant messaging and the telephone, has an impact on everyday lying behavior. It is important to note that these technologies are not obscure, or limited to only highly sophisticated users, but instead are used by millions of people across the globe on a daily basis. As such, these data have important implications for those of us who use these technologies to accomplish our everyday communicative activities at work and at home. In particular, the results indicate that we are more likely to lie (and to be lied to) on the telephone than in any other medium, and to lie the least in email.

What guidance does this research offer for developers and managers? Our findings suggest that specific design features can be used to influence rates of everyday forms of deception. For example, if the objective in a given situation is to reduce overall deception during social interactions, then a communication medium should be used that is asynchronous and recordable. Also, technologies that specify the user’s current physical activity, such as videoconferencing, should reduce deception by reinstating the constraints of co-presence. If, for whatever reason, the goal is to facilitate deception, then our model suggests these factors should be reversed.

According to recent studies, mutual trust develops most slowly in text-based interactions. Our experiment suggests that, somewhat ironically, participants lied least frequently in text-based interactions, especially email. How this irony will resolve itself over time is an interesting question. Will people begin to lie more frequently as they become more comfortable with text-based media? Or, as communication via text becomes increasingly ubiquitous, will people come to trust others more readily in their text-based interactions? Research that examines how the design of everyday communication technologies affects these types of interpersonal processes will become increasingly important as these technologies continue to support more and more of our social interactions.
[Jeff Hancock]
 
 

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