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What Building Mistakes/Issues to look out for??
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Sorry Tom but I totally disagree with you numbers! The 80 to 100 per sack of cement that\'s normally available will do just what you said.
We made our own, (2,500), using the \"black\" sand which has a binder in it and averaged 53 per sack of cement. Using sea sand or the common concrete sand will give a weaker block.
The cussing from the guys in handlng them was knocking a hole in them for piping and electrical boxes and they were heavier!
By Filipino building standards, hollow blocks only support themselves, not the building. The columms and beams are the building and the hollow blocks are the filler and room dividers.
Over spec your foundation, columms, beams and you\'ll have a strong building reguardless what hollow blocks you use depending on the concrete mix, mortor when installed and finishing. The Pinoy standard subdivision houses here have been standing with the cheap hollow block and that\'s good enough labor for some 15 years with no ill effects and there\'s been a few shakers to raddle there cage, even since we have been here. We are building on an island ya know.
With my, \"foreign better ideas/demands\", just might be an over kill? I haven\'t seen a Pinoy block house fall down or fall apart yet and some around these parts haven\'t been lived in or completed for YEARS. Some look bad with morter hanging out between the blocks and don\'t even have a bound beam at the top of the blocks, but have gone through a generation or two. I know, not our cup of tea for sure!
B-Ray
--- Quote from: Roxas City on January 20, 2008, 08:19:31 AM ---Well the first mistake you are going to make is to make 55 cement blocks from a bag of cement you need to get around 35 blocks per bag 55 per bag your blocks will fall apart while you are trying to lay them
Tom
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B Ray we must be talking apples and oranges what is the size of your blocks
I needed 25 hollow blocks today to fix a culvert so I went to a guy that makes them for the trade I asked him how many blocks he gets to a bag of cement he said 45 blocks per bag of cement in his mix he calls them Class A
Our blocks over here are 8 inches wide and 18 inch long and 8 inches high we are using 1/ 25 kilo bag of cement to the mix for good block we can only get about 35 blocks per bag from the street they get 45-50
I hope you can tell me how to make a 100 blocks per bag of cement if so I can start making them to sell
Thanks
Tom
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Apparently Tom, location in the Country in what one can get is involved in this. Blocks here are 6x8x16 or 4x8x16 with 3 hollow chambers.
Yes, we are talking about apples and oranges since SIZE of the blocks is the difference and also the size/amount of the cement sack too.
We made the 4\" blocks and a 50 kilo sack of cement in a one sack mixer, (not done by hand GRRR), giving an \"A+\" block, which apparently was an over kill as was sizing the 2 story building as a 3 story. At the time, the blocks cost me Php3.5 each to make where on the street the 80-100 were Php5 each.
I was told a couple of years ago, if a super strong block is wanted, add tile adhesive and a produce called Nevada, (water proofing), to the block mix. The ratio I have forgotten as with the block mix :(
Also adding new to old, (blocks, mortor or concrete), a product called \"Ready Fix\" cut 50% with water applied like paint to the old, will give a bound to the old, (less chance of a crack). This product is used also for laying new tile over clean old tile before the adhesive is used.
Anything to do with cement, my foreman uses all 3 of those products, even the Nevada in the tile grout meaning less chance of light colored grout staining.
Oh well, I got off the subject a bit here ;D
B-Ray
--- Quote from: Roxas City on January 21, 2008, 12:54:14 PM ---B Ray we must be talking apples and oranges what is the size of your blocks
I needed 25 hollow blocks today to fix a culvert so I went to a guy that makes them for the trade I asked him how many blocks he gets to a bag of cement he said 45 blocks per bag of cement in his mix he calls them Class A
Our blocks over here are 8 inches wide and 18 inch long and 8 inches high we are using 1/ 25 kilo bag of cement to the mix for good block we can only get about 35 blocks per bag from the street they get 45-50
I hope you can tell me how to make a 100 blocks per bag of cement if so I can start making them to sell
Thanks
Tom
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Thanks for the information on the additives I do not believe they are available in our province also I was mistaken on the sack weight they are 20 Kilos and the larger size when available are 40 kilos so 10 short of your area
If you ever get over this way the beers are on me
Best Regards
Tom
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Well Tom, it\'s been good that we brought up these differences!
It\'s so easy to think what we have available is the standard across the Country. Just a remainder to me, (which I should already realize after a few years), too NOT think ANYTHING is standard in this Country! ;D
Best re-guards to you and yours and beer may not be on tap, but rum and coke is always at this home front! I think it\'s time for one LMAO
B-Ray
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