Recognizing overseas marriages

[David690]

Just read this and welcome your take on it. I always believed that an overseas marrioneeded the NSO seal in order to be recognized in Philippines http://philippineslifestyle.com/law-foreigners-filipinos-married-outside-philippines-marriage-binding-ph/

[Lee2]

I would guess that the embassy would be the same as the country, so when I married my wife, we sent our marriage license and her Philippine passport to the Embassy and they changed her name to her married name, thus they recognized our Florida marriage, of course that was almost 24 years ago, so things may have changed.

[suzukig1]

Just read this and welcome your take on it. I always believed that an overseas marrioneeded the NSO seal in order to be recognized in Philippines http://philippineslifestyle.com/law-foreigners-filipinos-married-outside-philippines-marriage-binding-ph/

Did you really think that you could legally get married again in the PHL without getting a divorce as long as there was no PSA (formerly NSO) record of a previous marriage?  (i.e. the marriage would be legal in the PHL)

[Peter]

We were married in the British Embassy in the country where we were both working.

First we had to have an interview with a Philippines' Consular official and get a letter to take to the British Embassy.  At the British Embassy we had an interview with a Consular official and got another letter to take back to the Philippines Embassy.

To fulfill the requirements of both Embassies took around 6 weeks, mainly waiting for the (Philippines) PSA/NSO to respond to their Embassy's request for my (now) wife's "no report of marriage".

When all the forms were in and approved, both Embassies posted the banns.

We had to give the Philippines Embassy 2 certified copies of our (British) marriage certificate. One they passed onto the PSA/NSO in Manila, where it took around 6 months for the marriage to be seen as recorded on their database. The other they used to issue a name change in my wife's (Philippines) passport.

It took around 9 or 10 weeks, but well worth waiting for.  We were married in the beautiful Embassy gardens, next to the "emergency fire fighting water containment area". aka, but not officially, the swimming pool. LOL!

When we were next in the Philippines, we got a copy of the NSO marriage entry, complete with red ribbon.


Peter

[David690]

Did you really think that you could legally get married again in the PHL without getting a divorce as long as there was no PSA (formerly NSO) record of a previous marriage?  (i.e. the marriage would be legal in the PHL)

I am not questioning anything to do with divorce at all.  Let me be more clear for you.  I always understood that for a marriage that takes place with a foreigner outside of the Philippines, the marriage certificate had to be authenticated by the Philippines authorities and duly stamped by the NSO complete with the red sticker.  This article suggests that such a marriage, providing that it meets the legal requirements of the country where the marriage takes place, will be automatically recognised by the Philippines.

[suzukig1]

I am not questioning anything to do with divorce at all.  Let me be more clear for you.  I always understood that for a marriage that takes place with a foreigner outside of the Philippines, the marriage certificate had to be authenticated by the Philippines authorities and duly stamped by the NSO complete with the red sticker.  This article suggests that such a marriage, providing that it meets the legal requirements of the country where the marriage takes place, will be automatically recognised by the Philippines.

Not automatically recognized in the sense that you need a PSA (NSO) marriage certificate for many things in the PHL e.g. to get a 13A visa, getting a PHL passport changed to the married name, etc.

You have to comply with all laws in the PHL as if you are married but you can't get a lot of things done, especially government related things, without recognition from the PSA (NSO).

[David690]

Not automatically recognized in the sense that you need a PSA (NSO) marriage certificate for many things in the PHL e.g. to get a 13A visa, getting a PHL passport changed to the married name, etc.

You have to comply with all laws in the PHL as if you are married but you can't get a lot of things done, especially government related things, without recognition from the PSA (NSO).

In other words, it is recognised as lawful, but that it needs to be authenticated in order to use the marriage certificate for all the things you mentioned.