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Renew ITINs for US Spouses

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BudM:

--- Quote from: suzukig1 on August 17, 2016, 07:02:10 AM ---Dependents.  Your spouse is not considered a dependent.  (I guess there are some U.S. residency requirements when you claim dependents that are not U.S. citizens.)

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In order for me to file U.S. taxes each year to the IRS (married filing jointly) she has to have an ITIN and for IRS purposes ONLY, she is considered a Resident Alien rather than a Non-Resident Alien.  She was issued an ITIN by the IRS even though she has never stepped foot on U.S. soil as she has four passport books and none of them indicate that she has done so.  When I met her, she wanted to stay right here in the Philippines, which was good since that is where I want to live.  She has a travel business and likes to travel and is now after seeing U.S. stuff on TV when I watch, would like to travel there of course when we go on vacation.  I have no intention of ever go back their though for a short vacation though until several things do a complete reversal or show signs of improvement.  Hence, it will probably be at least several years before she ever gets a U.S. entrance stamp in her passport and of course she does not have a U.S. address.

bigrod:
Agree after a second look my asawa is not my dependent for tax purposes, since the return is a joint return.  So should not be effected by this action.  But clarification will definitely be required from IRS.  My asawa's two digit number is "95" so should be a few years before it concerns us, hopefully by that time we will know all the answers.

Chuck

suzukig1:

--- Quote from: BudM on August 17, 2016, 09:45:59 AM ---In order for me to file U.S. taxes each year to the IRS (married filing jointly) she has to have an ITIN and for IRS purposes ONLY, she is considered a Resident Alien rather than a Non-Resident Alien.  She was issued an ITIN by the IRS even though she has never stepped foot on U.S. soil as she has four passport books and none of them indicate that she has done so.  When I met her, she wanted to stay right here in the Philippines, which was good since that is where I want to live.  She has a travel business and likes to travel and is now after seeing U.S. stuff on TV when I watch, would like to travel there of course when we go on vacation.  I have no intention of ever go back their though for a short vacation though until several things do a complete reversal or show signs of improvement.  Hence, it will probably be at least several years before she ever gets a U.S. entrance stamp in her passport and of course she does not have a U.S. address.

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But you quoted the section that applies only to dependents and not spouses.  A spouse is not considered a dependent (even though you may claim an exemption for a spouse).

https://www.irs.gov/uac/six-important-facts-about-dependents-and-exemptions-1

Your spouse is never considered your dependent. On a joint return, you may claim one exemption for yourself and one for your spouse...

suzukig1:

--- Quote from: bigrod on August 17, 2016, 10:16:38 AM ---Agree after a second look my asawa is not my dependent for tax purposes, since the return is a joint return.  So should not be effected by this action.  But clarification will definitely be required from IRS.  My asawa's two digit number is "95" so should be a few years before it concerns us, hopefully by that time we will know all the answers.

Chuck

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There are separate sections; one for spouses and one for dependents.  The first part applies to spouses.

BudM:

--- Quote from: suzukig1 on August 17, 2016, 10:48:32 AM ---But you quoted the section that applies only to dependents and not spouses.  A spouse is not considered a dependent (even though you may claim an exemption for a spouse).

https://www.irs.gov/uac/six-important-facts-about-dependents-and-exemptions-1

Your spouse is never considered your dependent. On a joint return, you may claim one exemption for yourself and one for your spouse...

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Yeah, you are right.  My bag.  But as Chuck says, IRS needs to make sure it is clear.

There is too much confusion on everything we do just about and a lot of times, it is like we are rejects because we want to live somewhere else.  Not saying the IRS but too many government agencies treat our non-US citizen wives like the plague.  Apparently California Driver Licenses office would not though as they are giving a DL to everyone and their grandmother.

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