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Hiring Practices
« on: May 26, 2010, 02:57:57 AM »
How does one go about hiring maids, yardman, cooks, physical trainers, etc.? Or to put it another way: Where do you go to find those who want a job? How do you know what the going scale is? What are you obligations (other than paying salary) such as RP Social Security, workman\'s comp, L&I, health insurance. I will be arriving in 2-3 weeks for a 6 month vacation. Just wanting to make sure I do things right. Appreciated and sage advice.

John

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Re: Hiring Practices
« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2010, 04:17:07 AM »
1. Best to hire based on a recommendation
2. There was a pay scale listed here a couple of years ago....I\'ll see if I can find it
     Rates vary around the country but unless a specialised service (documented training) most Filipinos get around P250 (min wage)
     Although that is changing
3. Most employers DON\'T pay SSI, or health  benefits or with-hold taxes or workmens comp
    Personally -
    • I include PhilHealth insurance after 1 months service P100 per month
    • I include SSI after 3 months

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Re: Hiring Practices
« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2010, 04:50:05 AM »
I have had numerous employees as we ran a Sari.

As Dave said hire from recommendations, but as you will be new in the area, who do you trust? Its a difficult thing first time.

The Average worker at the moment pulls in about 8k php if they are in a city area = about 300php per day.

Provincial workers 250 php per day.

As it is short term employment, you should mention this to the employee upon interview, could make it harder to find workers.

I paid Phil Health from start date and SSS from 3 months, employees had to contribute to SSS as well so there was withholding\'s.

They had to produce their documentation.

A barangay clearance is a good document for them to produce and a police clearance as well. Make sure it is current, i.e. no older than 3 months. A form of ID such as a birth certificate is good also for establishing identity.

Now to other issues: Discrimination in the RP does not exist as such, you make the rules they follow them. If you want a 20 - 25 yr old employee, you can have it. If you want them to be single and stay single whilst in your employ, you can specify that as well, remind them to only use cell phones during personal time etc.

The list can be very long.

Wayne  ;D ;D

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Re: Hiring Practices
« Reply #3 on: May 26, 2010, 07:46:47 AM »
Would it be acceptable (and legal) to pay a little more than the going rate AND NOT do the health/SSI stuff? Just seems like for a short term, it makes sense to reduce the paperwork.

Also I get the picture: Recommendations are key. But being new right off the plane, where do you get recommendations?

John

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Re: Hiring Practices
« Reply #4 on: May 26, 2010, 07:55:36 AM »
Why would you NEED recommendations right off the plane?

I wouldn\'t recommend even getting a condo in the first month! Let alone employees!

Relax take your time.......get networking when you get there, look,look and then look some more.
You seem as if you\'re wanting to run a marathon before you have learned to crawl.
Kick back and enjoy yourself the first month or two.

There are ex-pat get togethers so you can get info from them too.

I\'m not Cebu based so can\'t point you in a given direction other that what I have.

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Re: Hiring Practices
« Reply #5 on: May 26, 2010, 08:51:07 AM »
Would it be acceptable (and legal) to pay a little more than the going rate AND NOT do the health/SSI stuff? Just seems like for a short term, it makes sense to reduce the paperwork.

Also I get the picture: Recommendations are key. But being new right off the plane, where do you get recommendations?

John


If you give your employees extra for Philhealth etc. they will just spend it. If they then become ill during your employ, you will then have a moral obligation to pay their expenses. They will not save any money and will be unable to pay for themselves. Philhealth is only P100 a month and very easy to arrange, so it would be better for you to take them to the office, let them do the paperwork and just pay.

Colin

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Re: Hiring Practices
« Reply #6 on: May 26, 2010, 08:55:48 AM »
I think what you are looking for is a contracting agency, you pay them, they provide whatever employees you need. The agency pays the employees and looks after all payroll, phil health and sss.
Wayne  ;D ;D

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Re: Hiring Practices
« Reply #7 on: May 26, 2010, 01:41:20 PM »
You may be right Captainiron but I figured I am there only 6 months and blowing 1-2 months in hotel is not what I had in mind. But I do take your advice that taking some time to settle in makes sense. Main reason for this 6 month visit is to get my old body back in shape (losing 100lbs, and waking up a lot of dead muscles). I need 6 month to do it (30 years ago it could have been done in half the time). So getting settled in to a Condo and setting up a routine is driving most of the planning.

John