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Hello Everyone!
« on: October 29, 2022, 04:39:08 AM »
Hello and good morning or good evening which ever fits the time you read this message.  Is everyone still alive and well? I don't see too much posting anymore. I'm hearing through the grapevine that the Philippines is going to start opening back up to the non-vaccinated. Has anyone heard anything different?  I'm not really sure as to how many of you are actually living in the Philippines. I'm living in the Southern US and my Filipina want even consider living back in the Philippines. I think she's Americanized! LOL! She talks about visiting but that's it. I might go over for a month or two visit if they do away with their restrictions. Problem is they could start the PLANDEMIC back up at a moment's notice while I'm there. Who knows! Any info on this topic would be much appreciated!  God Bless and everyone have a wonderful day!

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Re: Hello Everyone!
« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2022, 03:30:57 PM »
Hearing the same things via grapevine here in the Philippines.    But if you enter unvaccinated they may make you quarantine for 5 days. 
The pandemic really hurt the Phils being tourism is a big source of income/GNP.  I doubt they'll be quick to return to that hell. 
I think you'll be fine traveling here.
My second wife moved as an 18 year old to Chicago.  Always talked favorably of her Philippines.  25 years later we went to visit her old stomping grounds and that was it.  As far as I know, she still has zero desire ever to return.  Her grand memories now lessened. 
Your filipina's reaction does not surprise me.
« Last Edit: November 02, 2022, 06:53:55 AM by JoeLP »
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Re: Hello Everyone!
« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2022, 09:23:06 PM »

Well, I try to stop by the LIP site a few times a week to see what is going on and yes it has been very quiet here.
Yep, heard/read the same of the PI opening back up, which is a good thing and I think the plandemic put a hurting on the whole world, too sad.
Yes many Filipinas get westernized..what a shame in my opinion.
In the next 1-2 years we are going to start our half a year here and half their routine for life or the next conspiracy theory, NWO, etc..Ha ha.

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Re: Hello Everyone!
« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2022, 09:56:49 PM »
I can visit but I can't live in the Philippines. I worked to long and hard to give up what little conveniences I still have.  I'm 64 now and tried living there back in 2002 and I could only put up with the nonsense for 9 months.  Wonderful people but they need to catch up with the rest of the world in doing business. Just my opinion only!

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Re: Hello Everyone!
« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2022, 11:56:14 PM »
I'm hearing through the grapevine that the Philippines is going to start opening back up to the non-vaccinated. Has anyone heard anything different? 

Who knows, it changes every five minutes anyway! ;) Then again, do you really want some variation of Rona running rampage again? I think they'd have to be really feeling it to allow that.

But there are other issues preventing people from returning - flights for example, are a lot thinner on the ground. PA doesn't even fly from LHR to MNL any more. Many other flights have just been shut down too - I recently heard for example that Thai Airways from Perth to BKK is no more. I mean that was a really popular route back in the day (pre-Rona). This all means flights are very expensive - if you can get them. And then, what kind of hassles are you going to get on arrival. I recently watched a report from one guy who'd been trying to *leave* Philippines, and he nearly didn't get out - had to jump through all kinds of hoops. I don't want some "jobsworth" giving me grief because you were supposed to apply for the XYZ/arrival/departure/e-visa/blah-de-blah less that 72 hours before travel etc. No thanks! :)

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I'm not really sure as to how many of you are actually living in the Philippines. I'm living in the Southern US and my Filipina want even consider living back in the Philippines. I think she's Americanized! LOL! She talks about visiting but that's it. I might go over for a month or two visit if they do away with their restrictions. Problem is they could start the PLANDEMIC back up at a moment's notice while I'm there. Who knows! Any info on this topic would be much appreciated!  God Bless and everyone have a wonderful day!

Interesting one that. First, yes, many filipinas don't want to go home for more than a visit - and that's because they *know* the reality of living in the Philippines far better - they often lived it for 30 years or more before moving to the West - they fully understand the pros and cons (yes, there are cons), and also the pros and cons of the West.

For myself, having been travelling to the Philippines since 2011 (and Thailand and Malaysia extensively before that, since 2003), I am also reasonably familiar with the pros and cons. As I get older I must admit to becoming more enamoured with the many advantages of living in the West. But yes, on those long dark Winter evenings, I'm back experiencing those hot Kata beach nights down in Phuket, or floating out in the Sulu sea, or diving the crystal clear waters off Perhentian - at least in my mind - and some raven-haired, almond-eyed beauty, with perfect honey skin, and a megawatt smile, is passing me an ice-cold beer, and this is as close to heaven as you'll get this side of the fence. Been there, got the t-shirt(s), and those memories will keep me toasty when I'm supping on my chemo-cocktail, and counting down the days to the big departure from terminal 0 - hopefully my e-visa is all in order at St.Peter's gate, or I'll be slumming downstairs in the steamy economy class seats, rather than reclining in Singapore first class lounge... ;)

BTW, I'm not sure all foreigners "living" in Philippines actually are living. There's a good bunch of them who are surviving, and mainly there because it's cheap (compared to say UK or USA). I don't call drinking beer all day, watching Sky Sports on cable, and never emerging from your compound living. But there are many in places I've rocked up in who do precisely that. Whatever floats your boat I guess. There are some though who have made a life there - and you can see them getting antsy - the novelty of that beach side rental places diminishes over time - when you're woken up by a cockerel at 4.00am every morning, and have to fight off seemingly wild dogs every time you want to go any where. And WTF is the neighbour burning now - coconut husks again?? ;) Yeah, all is not always perfect in paradise...

Having said all that I love visiting Philippines, but have to say I'm a Manila guy - grown to love the place, but only because I've also spent a lot of time out on the islands...my typical trip now is say two weeks in Manila and maybe a week exploring somewhere else...next trip we'll probably go for a month (like we did last time) and combine a good stint in Manila, and a week island hopping and doing some diving perhaps...that works for me, it might not work for anyone else though...

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Re: Hello Everyone!
« Reply #5 on: November 02, 2022, 03:44:13 AM »
Hi All,

A lot of interesting points have been raised in this short discussion.

In my humble opinion, there are pros and cons in every country, place, situation. We all have to find the right fit and situation that keeps us somewhat happy and content.

I moved from Canada to the Philippines for many reasons, and now, 6 years later, I do not regret my decision.

Of course, coming from a vastly different culture, I may see things in a slightly different light than others here. But, and this is the key thing now in my life, it was my decision to come here and live out my life, and being a guest here I have to accept how things are.

We cannot judge others for how and what they do, since we do not know what led them to this point in their lives.

Accept what is, be happy in your life, and smile, that's not a bad life.

These are just my thoughts, my way of seeing things. If people agree or disagree or see things otherwise, that is their way.

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Re: Hello Everyone!
« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2022, 06:34:15 PM »
In my humble opinion, there are pros and cons in every country, place, situation. We all have to find the right fit and situation that keeps us somewhat happy and content.

I couldn't agree more.

"that keeps us somewhat happy and content"

I think that's the thing though - my experience is there are a lot of foreigners in PH who aren't happy and content - not all - but I've met quite a few.

Of course, this is not some kind of scientific study, purely anecdotal, but what I've seen is a lot of foreigners moving to PH because they see it as a "cheap paradise", burn their bridges, or who are simply trapped and can never return due to financial constraints, and then realize they are surrounded by "issues". A bunker mentality then exists where they don't want to venture out from their compound and deal with the day-to-day reality of living in PH, and I think that's sad because then they really are missing out on the pros of living in PH. 

On the other hand I do see plenty of westerners who avail themselves of everything PH has to offer, and long may it continue...

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« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2022, 09:48:21 AM »
I think there are more than a few foreigners like me living here in the Philippines.  I like the "compound life". 
To be clear, it's not a permanent thing, but when I'm in that mood, I'm happy.  I might be busy going out and doing things every day for a month.  Going to the events my wife's catering business is working at, then visiting her at work where she manages the public market in our municipality.  Then head to the local resorts and enjoy a day there with the family.  I do actually do those things.  But, starting when all the f---ing worthless lockdowns started happening, I went compound life.  Also, even before that, I'd take a month here or a month there and just hang around the house/compound all day every day except for my morning walks to keep getting my exercise.  But, to hell with wearing a worthless mask.  Screw getting an vaccine that are now proven to be worth about jack(why else would the W.H.O. and the CDC inside of weeks of each other state to treat those with the vaccine and those without the same.  Same with those who wear masks and don't to be treated the same.  Simple, both can still catch and transmit covid.  There is no difference). 
So, because the local security is bi-polar, I usually stayed in the compound 'cept early morning walks(before the sun rises as the police stay in their station all night out here in the boondocks and won't bother people walking that early, and most of us early walkers were not wearing those worthless masks at that time).  No point in going out into a place where things that didn't matter were enforced.   And the locals, god bless them, became really good at getting vaccine cards without ever taking the damn shot.  My in-laws included.  I only know a few who actually got them done personally.  Hell, most days if you drove by the covered tennis courts near the pulis station, it was empty.  Noone was getting the pointless vaccine.  Always made me laugh. 
But, since the government finally pulled their heads out of there backsides, and have lifted, for the most part, any vaccine checks or mask mandates, I get out more.  But not much.  Compound life doesn't bother me.  I have my son and wife in our home in the compound.  The wife's 2 aunts and uncle as well as 2 of her cousins and sisters as well as about 10 little ones to interact with.  The neighbors come in and go as they want during the day.  And I still go to the mall with wife for shopping and to the market also.  But, I also not have a nice treadmill so I can do my walks in aircon.  Chill out and watch my sports. 
Compound life is not a bad thing.  Even those with the means to go out and enjoy life in the area will be happy to just stay home in the compound.  Has nothing to do with being trapped. 
Sadly, the neighboring municipality is losing all their foreigners.  When I got here there were over 30 of them living in a subdivision called paradise valley.  Now only about 5 are left.  Talking about a fast drop in the last 10 years.  But, when they were all there, I saw a lot of the same thing.  Most were just hanging around their homes.  They may switch what home they'd meet at, but screw getting out and doing stuff.  And when they did, it was usually a "group trip" to Cebu City or some resort in Leyte or Bohol.  The local resorts were mostly abandoned from their plans.  They'd travel out to shop with their wives from time to time, but, a very large part of their time was just sitting around their homes.  Money wasn't a matter to them as almost every single one that has left have "upgraded" their livings to Angeles City or Olongapo and I think one moved to Tagatay(or some place just outside it, wife still talks to the wife from that couple). 
There are a lot of foreigners living the "compound life" because it's what they want, not due to lack of funds.
That said, there is one foreigner from a municipality on the other side of mine that I think is stuck due to funds.  The few times I see him in town, and we get a chance to talk, I think he's very much on a budget that he's careful not to mess with and how little he leaves his compound/area I think shows he's "counting his pennies".  So, I don't disagree with you that there are such people here.  I just haven't seen a lot of them in my experience here. 
What I have seen a lot of, and I mean a LOT of, are men in/near retirement age who just do not get around as much as they might when they were younger, that managed to find a pretty little/young native beauty and I actually love it.  Both are adults, both made their decisions, and she's usually guiding/"pulling" him along through a mall/shopping center, etc.  He's having fun to some extent in his life living here with her, and most likely, she's going to be doing well not too far down the road with a nice paid off home with land and a nice bump her her living standards.  Win/win. 
Compound life is not always bad or and unwanted thing among foreigners.  This was much longer than I wanted to make it, I'm just too tired after a late night last night and am too lazy to go over it and edit it. 
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