Philippines Insider" The Ultimate Philippines Travel Guide for Tourists and Expats

Author Topic: RP bureaucracy & rip offs?? A UK story.  (Read 2974 times)

  • Guest
RP bureaucracy & rip offs?? A UK story.
« on: April 11, 2008, 11:25:34 AM »
I have read many posts on different groups complaining about having to get this paperwork or that form for BI or being charged extra P500 for express or to help process the application. How it is all corruption & poorly organized being passed from window to window then back to the 1st window.

Well you may want to compare that to the story below & in turn relate that to how things are in Oz or US etc. Any of it sound familiar?  ::)

Dear Minister,

I\'m in the process of renewing my passport but I am a total loss to understand or believe the hoops I am being asked to jump through.

How is it that Bert Smith of T.V. Rentals Basingstoke has my address and telephone number and knows that I bought a satellite dish from them back in 1994, and yet, the Government is still asking me where I was born and on what date?

How come that nice West African immigrant chappy who comes round every Thursday night with his DVD rentals van can tell me every film or video I have had out since he started his business up eleven years ago, yet you still want me to remind you of my last three jobs, two of which were with contractors working for the government?

How come the T.V. detector van can tell if my T.V. is on, what channel I am watching and whether I have paid my license or not, and yet if I win the government run lottery they have no idea I have won or where I am and will keep the bloody money to themselves if I fail to claim in good time.
Do you people do this by hand?

You have my birth date on numerous files you hold on me, including the one with all the income tax forms I\'ve filed for the past 30-odd years. It\'s on my health insurance card, my driver\'s license, on the last four passports I\'ve had, on all those stupid customs declaration forms I\'ve had to fill out before being allowed off the planes and boats over the last 30 years, and all those insufferable census forms that are done every ten years and the electoral registration forms I have to complete, by law, every time our lords and masters are up for re-election.

Would somebody please take note, once and for all, I was born in Maidenhead on the 4th of March 1957, my mother\'s name is Mary, her maiden name was Reynolds, my father\'s name is Robert, and I\'d be absolutely astounded if that ever changed between now and the day I die!

I apologize Minister. I\'m obviously not myself this morning. But between you and me, I have simply had enough! You mail the application to my house, then you ask me for my address.
What is going on? Do you have a gang of Neanderthals working there? Look at my damn picture. Do I look like Bin Laden? I don\'t want to activate the Fifth Reich for God\'s sake! I just want to go and park my weary backside on a sunny, sandy beach for a couple of week\'s well-earned rest away from all this crap.

Well, I have to go now, because I have to go to back to Salisbury and get another copy of my birth certificate because you lost the last one. AND to the tune of 60 quid! What a racket THAT is!! Would it be so complicated to have all the services in the same spot to assist in the issuance of a new passport the same day? But nooooo, that\'d be too damn easy and maybe make sense. You\'d rather have us running all over the place like chickens with our heads cut off, then find some tosser to confirm that it\'s really me on the goddamn picture - you know... the one where we\'re not allowed to smile in case we look as if we are enjoying the process!
Hey, you know why we can\'t smile? \'Cause we\'re totally jacked off!

I served in the armed forces for more than 25 years including over ten years at the Ministry of Defence in London. I have had security clearances  which allowed me to sit in the Cabinet Office, five seats away from the Prime Minister while he was being briefed on the first Gulf War and I have been doing volunteer work for the British Red Cross ever since I left the Services. However, I have to get someone \'important\' to verify who I am -- you know, someone like my doctor...
who, before he got his medical degree 6 months ago WAS LIVING IN PAKISTAN...

Yours sincerely,
An Irate British Citizen.

Offline coutts00

  • Sr Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 1,470
Re: RP bureaucracy & rip offs?? A UK story.
« Reply #1 on: April 11, 2008, 03:32:21 PM »

The Australian passport form is similar, I have to prove who I am although I have my current passport and the two that were issued before it. I have my extract of birth, the original one the doc is 47 yrs old, and yet I have to have someone who has known me for 2 yrs sign the form to say who I am, yet a personal friend in the US, the Australian Trade Commissioner is not allowed to sign it as he is attached to the same bloody government who can\'t figure out who I am.

This is the same government that has me report my whereabouts every couple of months as I spent time in the Australian Army doing things that shouldn\'t be spoken about, so they have decided they need to know where I am on a regular basis in case I need to do it again. Now that I am without a leg and one needs two legs for this sort of work, doesn\'t phase them, I still have to tell them where I am.

And if you think any of this is stupid, how about the fact that when I had my kids over last year, I tried to get them their Australian Citizenship, they are US citizens. Well we all went down to the Australian Embassy in Manila, well the bloody guard would not let me go up to see the consular staff at my own embassy, I had to process the papers through the normal channels, however the normal channels only deal with Australians trying to get Filipino kids their citizenship, so I needed to see the consular staff, no luck, it was a wasted trip, bloody bureaucracy. I turns out the guard downstairs is Filipino, he is worried about getting yelled at if he lets an Australian go up to the Australian Embassy to see his own Embassy Staff. Another fine example of Business Outsourcing at its best.

Wayne  ;D ;D

  • Guest
Re: RP bureaucracy & rip offs?? A UK story.
« Reply #2 on: April 11, 2008, 05:38:23 PM »
Not that it annoyed you of course ::) ;D I had a similar stupid one in Dubai Airport a few years ago. Dee & I had a 5 hour lay over from Kuwait to UK and I wanted to go out & have a drink with friends I knew there. So I asked if it was possible, \"yes sir came the reply. Go to that desk over there & hand in your passport, they will give you a receipt to claim it back on your return\". Fantastic, how civilized.  8) So off Dee & I went to the desk, where I handed them mine & Dee\'s passports......\"oh SHE can\'t go\", came the response...\"errrrr WHAT!\" ....\"She\'s Filipina\".......\"err SHE is my WIFE\"....\"doesn\'t matter she may not come back\".....\"errr she\'s my WIFE\"  >:( You get the point. Well after shouting loud enough for most of the airport to stop to see what was happening, I got to see a manager who said that if I booked one of the hotel rooms via the airport, they could issue a temp visa & we could both go. So for some figure of around P1,000 we got to go out but what a farce. Dee would clearly return to the airport because of a stupid temp hotel visa rather than because she was my wife.  ???

Offline graham

  • Sr Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 628
Re: RP bureaucracy & rip offs?? A UK story.
« Reply #3 on: April 11, 2008, 07:54:18 PM »
    You know what really got up my nose, was the fact that before the Australian Embassy was in the place it is now and you have make your pitch downstairs, in 1990 I was trying to get my (then) wife to Australia on a Spouse visa. I had to stand in line behind about 50 Filipinos making useless applications for visas that most would not get!!. In nearby Roxas Blvde the American embassy had a line for American citizens only, after all it\'s their Embassy isn\'t it??