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Offline Lunkan

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Re: Reliability of Philippine employed?
« Reply #60 on: January 09, 2012, 03:56:57 AM »
It ISN\'T mail order type, kind of \"opposite\" to that. As I believe you guys have noticed, I don\'t think as normal people†  :)† †
A SMALL part of my business idea will be as common solutions for mixed marriages, but NEVER mail order marriages, As far as I know, no one have done something as I think of starting. Actually the suiting part much MORE often can be used between people from SAME country, because most marriages are between people from same country† :)

Btw among my ancestors and siblings we don\'t have any divorces/split except when an aristocrat started our bastard line by making a maid pregnant†  :)†  Such statistics although all are married except me and a brother to my grandfather.
I thought using such knowledge together with some other things, and if I can make so I don\'t need to travel, then I will perhaps try to build an international franchise chain using \"my\" method. The rest is business secrets so far† :)

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Re: Reliability of Philippine employed?
« Reply #61 on: January 09, 2012, 05:21:21 AM »
Again, you missed the point, Lunkan.† Read the entire law...

\"...Section 2. Pursuant thereto, it is hereby declared unlawful:

(a) For a person, natural or juridical, association, club or any other entity to commit, directly or indirectly, any of the following acts:

(1) To establish or carry on a business which has for its purpose the matching of Filipino women for marriage to foreign nationals either on a mail-order basis or through personal introduction;

(2) To advertise, publish, print or distribute or cause the advertisement, publication, printing or distribution of any brochure, flier, or any propaganda material calculated to promote the prohibited acts in the preceding subparagraph;...\"

And here\'s the clincher...

\"...Section 4. Any person found guilty by the court to have violated any of the acts herein prohibited shall suffer an imprisonment of not less than six (6) years and one (1) day but not more than eight (8) years, and a fine of not less than Eight thousand pesos (P8,000) but not more than Twenty thousand pesos (P20,000): Provided, That if the offender is a foreigner, he shall be immediately deported and barred forever from entering the country after serving his sentence and payment of fine.\"

Keep in mind that Philippines laws are meant to protect the Filipino culture and as a foreigner they will show you no mercy.
Louisville, KY USA - Bagong Silang, Caloocan City, PH

Offline graham

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Re: Reliability of Philippine employed?
« Reply #62 on: January 11, 2012, 08:29:50 AM »
Don\'t know if you guys remember this. 2 (I think) Swedish guys
have been, just late last year, jailed for LIFE for the crime of
\"Trafficking in Women\"

They were running an Internet Dating Service

Graham

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Re: Reliability of Philippine employed?
« Reply #63 on: January 11, 2012, 10:33:07 AM »
Graham,

Yes, I remember it well, and that\'s one of the biggest reasons I pointed out the broad stroke the law covers.† I woudn\'t even consider talking with anyone who ran one of those outfits for fear of being named an \"associate\".
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Offline BingColin

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Re: Reliability of Philippine employed?
« Reply #64 on: January 11, 2012, 11:00:30 AM »
Graham,

Yes, I remember it well, and that\'s one of the biggest reasons I pointed out the broad stroke the law covers.† I woudn\'t even consider talking with anyone who ran one of those outfits for fear of being named an \"associate\".


I can never understand the Philippine attitude towards these dating services, I met Bing through one and we have been happily married for 22 years. I have always believed that it would be better if these service were licensed and the money used to make sure they were run correctly. Still, that is the law and we have to abide by it.

Colin

Offline Metz

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Re: Reliability of Philippine employed?
« Reply #65 on: January 11, 2012, 01:57:41 PM »
Dating services fall under the \"monkey business\" category.

There are many things you just can\'t do in the Philippines that a local can do.† The key is to find the niche that the locals do not serve well.† Skilled trades for example.† I have had many people ask me to build metal fences for them and they offered American rates to do it.†

My day job pays more so I did not take the job. Point being that there is plenty of work for a westerner in Phil\'s.†

Just look at automotive shops fr example.† How many automotive shops do computer diagnostic service?† Did you know that you could get all the equipment needed to service most cars for a couple thousand dollars worth of gear you can fit in a large suitcase?

The tool store guy up the road in Pasig is always telling me about a German customer who has a welding shop in Pasig and is wildly successful cause he is known for his high quality work.†

We have a Dutch neighbor who makes those fancy fiberglass figures you see in restaurants.† He owns 2 houses, one is a studio for his sculpting,† He fabricates the fiberglass off site.†

With today\'s economy, the BPO call center business is over saturated.† 10 years ago was the time to get into that.† With the present economic situation, my money is on serving the local market instead of chasing increasingly smaller western markets.

Offline Lunkan

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Re: Reliability of Philippine employed?
« Reply #66 on: January 11, 2012, 05:16:13 PM »
Again, you missed the point, Lunkan.† Read the entire law...

\"...Section 2. Pursuant thereto, it is hereby declared unlawful:

(a) For a person, natural or juridical, association, club or any other entity to commit, directly or indirectly, any of the following acts:

(1) To establish or carry on a business which has for its purpose the matching of Filipino women for marriage to foreign nationals either on a mail-order basis or through personal introduction;
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Oh I didn\'t thought they are so stupid, so they stop BOTH the bad trafficing and the good marriages!!!†
Then they will miss a side idea I had how to try to get more investment capital to the country... (=by try to make investors/entrepreneurs marry and preferingly move there bringing their knowledge too.) And even if the woman move away, as you know much money are sent to Philippines anyway...
Hard to expect things, when they are stupid† :)
OK. Then I have to skip that business idea, because there would promoting be a natural kind of necessary complement.

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Re: Reliability of Philippine employed?
« Reply #67 on: January 11, 2012, 11:38:56 PM »
Bingo!!† You finally got it!† Things are vastly different in the Philippines.† You must do your homework or you could find yourself in hot water too easily.

Having a head full of ideas is great, but until you find what is needed versus what is possible, it\'s simply verbal exercise.
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Offline Lunkan

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Re: Reliability of Philippine employed?
« Reply #68 on: January 13, 2012, 04:12:28 PM »
But that\'s why I HAVE asked MUCH already from the beginning :)

Offline Lunkan

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Re: Reliability of Philippine employed?
« Reply #69 on: January 13, 2012, 09:11:16 PM »
(Now I have read that law several times.
A part of my origin- idea surely break the law, but that\'s just a small part, which was just thought as a natural complement. PERHAPS can my idea be modified to be OK, but it SURELY will need to be very carefuly checked :)
IF I want to use the idea. To use whole the MAIN idea I will need to have a part which LOOK very similar to things, which breaks the law, but it\'s much different, but because of looking so similar it would surely need to get OK from high officials, before I would dare to do the origin main idea.
Perhaps woild an adjusted idea have biger chance to get OK, skip that look alike part, but then would it be much harder to reach a good quality of the main product.
Perhaps I just have to sell the idea together with a belonging book, which is almost ready†  :\'(†  :)†  because I believe it would be the best idea of them I have. In THAT point of view would Thailand be better† :)† for me to settle down in, but as long as I can earn enough of ANY of my ideas, I wouldn\'t chose land after business idea.

Offline OldManBill

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Re: Reliability of Philippine employed?
« Reply #70 on: January 13, 2012, 09:23:12 PM »
I would rather do something online in my home country than to jump through hoops and worry about laws in RP. It would take less of my time and be more profitable in the long run. Either that, or have rental investment in the US. The only business I could see myself in there is if I bought several condos and rented them out. But that has its own headaches.