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suzukig1:
Important note: It is the airlines that police the onward/return ticket rule.  So check with your airline regarding their policy.

According to immigration the return/onward ticket does not have to be within 21 days of arrival.

Below is an email I sent to immigration and their response.



Return/Onward Ticket Timeframe
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Gary Suzuki
   Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 3:14 AM
To: binoc_immigration@hotmail.ph
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I am a U.S. citizen staying in the Philippines as a temporary visitor.
 My wife and I take vacation trips out of the Philippines about every
6 months.

Is there a time limit on the return/onward ticket?  Some people have
said that the return or onward ticket has to be within 21 days of
arrival without a visa or within 59 days of arrival if you have a 59
day visa.

Can my return or onward ticket be for a flight 6, 8 or 10 months after
my arrival date as long as I keep my stay valid by getting extensions?

Thank you.


   
Bureau of Immigration National Operations Center
<binoc_immigration@hotmail.ph>   Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 5:33 PM
To: Gary Suzuki
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Sir,
 
Good day! As a temporary visitor visa holder, you need to present a return ticket but not necessarily within 21 days or 59 days. Furthermore, if you are accompanied by your Filipina wife you will be admitted as Balikbayan and a one way ticket is allowed.
 
Thank you.
 
Should you have other immigration-related queries, please do not hesitate to call the BI Helpdesk Hotline at (632) 524-3824 or (632) 524-3769, visit our website at www.immigration.gov.ph or like us on Facebook: officialbureauofimmigration and follow us on Twitter: immigrationPH.

Big Jim:

--- Quote from: suzukig1 on June 16, 2013, 05:54:58 PM ---Important note: It is the airlines that police the onward/return ticket rule.  So check with your airline regarding their policy.

According to immigration the return/onward ticket does not have to be within 21 days of arrival.

Below is an email I sent to immigration and their response.



Return/Onward Ticket Timeframe
   Inbox

   
Gary Suzuki
   Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 3:14 AM
To: binoc_immigration@hotmail.ph
Reply | Reply to all | Forward | Print | Delete | Show original

I am a U.S. citizen staying in the Philippines as a temporary visitor.
 My wife and I take vacation trips out of the Philippines about every
6 months.

Is there a time limit on the return/onward ticket?  Some people have
said that the return or onward ticket has to be within 21 days of
arrival without a visa or within 59 days of arrival if you have a 59
day visa.

Can my return or onward ticket be for a flight 6, 8 or 10 months after
my arrival date as long as I keep my stay valid by getting extensions?

Thank you.


   
Bureau of Immigration National Operations Center
<binoc_immigration@hotmail.ph>   Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 5:33 PM
To: Gary Suzuki
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Sir,
 
Good day! As a temporary visitor visa holder, you need to present a return ticket but not necessarily within 21 days or 59 days. Furthermore, if you are accompanied by your Filipina wife you will be admitted as Balikbayan and a one way ticket is allowed.
 
Thank you.
 
Should you have other immigration-related queries, please do not hesitate to call the BI Helpdesk Hotline at (632) 524-3824 or (632) 524-3769, visit our website at www.immigration.gov.ph or like us on Facebook: officialbureauofimmigration and follow us on Twitter: immigrationPH.

--- End quote ---

 
Thankyou for confirming 2 things for me.
 
The date is irrelevant.
 
No onward tickets are required for Balikbayan spouse. This point has been quite ambiguous since last year when there was a policy change. The head of the bureau of immigration announced that no onward ticket was required for Balibayans as they were former Filipinos. But he failed to mention the requirements of the spouse.

suzukig1:
I'll post this point again:

Important note: It is the airlines that police the onward/return ticket rule.  So check with your airline regarding their policy.

It doesn't matter what the immigration policy is if your airline thinks it's something different they can still deny you a boarding pass.  So you need to check with your airline.

Lee2:
I have found bringing written proof helps, so a copy of an email from the BI or a copy of the law to show them at the very least would make them negligent if you show them the proof and they still refuse to allow you on the flight. The next step would then be to insist on a supervisor and show it to them and if they still refuse then I would think that might make a good lawsuit, that you proved to them they were wrong with an email from the BI to you and they still refused you to board. I hope someone tests it with Delta one day soon as they continually give me a problem until I show them the printed BB law and even then last time I had to show them a printed email from the BI to me and then they allowed me to board.

BudM:

--- Quote from: Lee on June 21, 2013, 10:29:22 PM ---I have found bringing written proof helps, so a copy of an email from the BI or a copy of the law to show them at the very least would make them negligent if you show them the proof and they still refuse to allow you on the flight. The next step would then be to insist on a supervisor and show it to them and if they still refuse then I would think that might make a good lawsuit, that you proved to them they were wrong with an email from the BI to you and they still refused you to board. I hope someone tests it with Delta one day soon as they continually give me a problem until I show them the printed BB law and even then last time I had to show them a printed email from the BI to me and then they allowed me to board.

--- End quote ---

Delta is nothing but a pain in the a _ _ as you have been saying all along.  I just used them for the first time all the way.  I had a one-way to NAIA.  I had an official confirmation on a flight out of Clark on Tiger within 21 days to Hong Kong.  To start out, I was able to get a flight out of  the old Stewart AFB turned commercial in the Hudson Valley of NY instead of having to go to NYC.  Was able to get the same flight at same price out of Detroit.  Everything was good until I checked in at the Detroit terminal desk for the flight.  The young lady at the counter kept asking me why I didn't have ticket number for the onward flight.  I told her that Tiger said the official confirmation was it and since they were ticket-less, there would be no ticket or number.  She wasn't happy with that and started to get what I considered personal and wanted to know among things as to how long I was going to Hong Kong for if I planned to return to Manila and when.  I told her that I didn't know since I was just traveling and I was going to do what I want when I can and feel like it.  She was still questioning me so I was about to ask her what business it was of Delta's when all they had to do was worry about me having a way out of Manila in order to take them off the hook for me but then another young lady who apparently was overhearing what was going on stopped her and looked at the confirmation and told her everything was alright.  So, the first one then said everything would be fine.  I then asked her if she was done with me and if I was in the clear.  She said yes so I then went and took a seat to await boarding.

It came time to load up.  The lines were moving along fine at a steady pace but then here comes me along handing a third young lady my boarding pass and passport.  She was looking at the one-way, which clearly said at the top that for international an onward was required, and looked back at me and stopped everything.  I handed her my Tiger confirmation and she decided she had to stop the movement of the line by moving to the side and start punching stuff in a computer console from my ticket.  So, I was waiting and waiting along with everyone at a sudden standstill waiting and waiting.  Now, she wanted to ask me questions.  I said to her that if she would check with the first young lady who was nearby, she would find that everything was alright with my ticket.  No.  She had to do some more punching and did not want to ask the other anything apparently.  I said to her to let me step aside so she could get the line moving again and I would wait.  That wasn't going to work apparently and she kept me right there.  I said for her to ask the other one and she could explain to her. No, still not concerned with asking.  Then here comes the second one who had told the first one originally that my confirmation was fine.  As she was going by, I said to her in a low voice that they got me again.  The third one heard this and told me to just calm down and wait.  So, I told her to just ask the first one what is going on with the ticket instead of holding all these other people up.  Now, she did.  The first one explained it all to her and then the third one said, "Oh, okay" and told me that I could go on my way.

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