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Title: Just got back from PARADISE.
Post by: daddymac on July 30, 2008, 06:00:31 AM
I just got back from a 14 day stay in the province of Ilocos Norte. It was great. First thing I did was take off my watch and when I felt tired I slept and when not I was up. Had a typhoon hit while I was there but I didn\'t know about it till the asawa told me because I didn\'t watch any news or TV. saw only 4 white people besides myself. I knew two of them were Americans because I talked with them. The only problem I had was the damn alarm clock but I solved that and ate the damn rooster( just a joke). Went to the market in Loaog a couple of times, it was about a hour and a half from our town of only 2 hundred people( mostly kids) I guess we know what they do for passing the time. Went(http://[img][img])[/img][/img] to check out the house the wife was building for the past 10 years and two hundred thousand dollars later. I will be going back in about six months and stay for about four months and will move there for good in two years. The province is the only place to live. Manila was still like it was back in 1970. Will be going to Subic, Cebu when I get back next time. I\'m retired and ready to leave now. No worries and no pressure there. When I move there all I have to worry about is paying for electricity and food. All of you who want to move there , take a trip ( 3 weeks) at the minimum and enjoy the culture and people.
Steve

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Title: Re: Just got back from PARADISE.
Post by: Gray Wolf on July 30, 2008, 06:41:26 AM
Steve,

Super!  Looks like we\'ll be somewhat close when I make the Big Move.  We plan to settle in Ilocos Sur just north of Vigan.  From the looks of that baboy, you and I are kindred spirits!   ;D ;D

When we visit next time, perhaps we can meet up for a day and share a bit of lechon baboy, as well as a few hundred cold San Mig\'s or Red Horse\'s.   ::)   ;D ;D ;D

Glad to see that someone else has sense enough to avoid the big cities.  I enjoy visiting Manila,  only because the family is there.  If it weren\'t for them living there, I wouldn\'t step one foot into those streets.  When I get to choose my homesite, it won\'t be anywhere near that smog filled, crowded place.  I prefer the somewhat cleaner air and the warm hospitality of the provinces, too.

And before anyone jumps on me for saying something negative, don\'t get me wrong.  I know that Manila has it\'s place as the capital city and it\'s a nice place to visit, once.  But for me, it just isn\'t where I would choose to live full time.  As long as I have family there, I\'ll visit for short periods of time, but I will be very happy to once again hit the road for the northern end of Luzon, to once again walk clean beaches and breath fresh air. 

Hope to look you up some day soon, buddy!          I\'m jealous!!!   ;D ;D ;D

 
Title: Re: Just got back from PARADISE.
Post by: GregW on July 30, 2008, 10:26:13 AM
Jack wrote;
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And before anyone jumps on me for saying something negative, don\'t get me wrong.  I know that Manila has it\'s place 

Aw, shoot.  I was just gettin\' ready to pounce.   ;D

As far as Manila, well...  You now Jack, I wouldn\'t want to live in Washington DC either.  Or NYC or LA.  So I don\'t view it as negative at all.  You just don\'t like super large cities and neither do I.   :)



Title: Re: Just got back from PARADISE.
Post by: John Amend-All on July 30, 2008, 11:03:00 AM
Hi Steve and welcome

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I just got back from a 14 day stay in the province of Ilocos Norte. It was great. First thing I did was take off my watch and when I felt tired I slept and when not I was up. Had a typhoon hit while I was there but I didn\'t know about it till the asawa told me because I didn\'t watch any news or TV. saw only 4 white people besides myself. I knew two of them were Americans because I talked with them. The only problem I had was the damn alarm clock but I solved that and ate the damn rooster( just a joke). Went to the market in Loaog a couple of times, it was about a hour and a half from our town of only 2 hundred people( mostly kids) I guess we know what they do for passing the time. Went[/img][/img] to check out the house the wife was building for the past 10 years and two hundred thousand dollars later. I will be going back in about six months and stay for about four months and will move there for good in two years. The province is the only place to live. Manila was still like it was back in 1970. Will be going to Subic, Cebu when I get back next time. I\'m retired and ready to leave now. No worries and no pressure there. When I move there all I have to worry about is paying for electricity and food. All of you who want to move there , take a trip ( 3 weeks) at the minimum and enjoy the culture and people.
Steve

I am from Isabela, not so far from you. I looked up Banna on Google Earth and you certainly will be away from it all! Do you have Google Earth on your system and if so, could you give us the position of your place? We have a thread all about that.

Just a thought, now that we have the makings of a LinP3 community in the north, why don\'t you, The Old Grey Wolf and me get together somewhere mutually convenient, such as Pagudpud beach resort, a great little seaside town in Ilocos Norte.

Agree with the posts about cities, except for one thing - Manila is a great place to get stuff! Sometimes I just miss things, like cheese, out here in the sticks and I know its a long journey to get it.

John
Title: Re: Just got back from PARADISE.
Post by: grizzi on July 30, 2008, 08:29:31 PM
Hey...thats my first move every time I visit our house in the RP...off comes the watch...and it doesn\'t go back on until I head back to work... 8)  Just thinking about it makes me miss the RP so much more.
Title: Re: Just got back from PARADISE.
Post by: on July 30, 2008, 11:40:52 PM
We also just got back and are making the big move in Feb of 2011. We spent our last 4 days in Manila and, although I would hate to have to drive there, did enjoy the Mall of Asia and Robinsons.  :) 
Title: Re: Just got back from PARADISE.
Post by: on July 31, 2008, 07:54:34 AM
Hey...thats my first move every time I visit our house in the RP...off comes the watch...and it doesn\'t go back on until I head back to work... 8)  Just thinking about it makes me miss the RP so much more.

That is an interesting thought. In the UK, I wore my wedding ring permanently and my watch was the first thing I put on in the morning. Here in the Philippines I only put both of them on when I leave the house, but feel undressed if I forget  ;D

Colin
Title: Re: Just got back from PARADISE.
Post by: BigBird on July 31, 2008, 11:10:32 PM
I don’t own a watch but I did turn off that friggin’ blackberry device before I even departed!  No worries….be happy……6 weeks with an open agenda! 

Wedding ring never comes off my finger or I might loose the finger it is worn upon.  And every time we left the local area around the house I had to ALWAYS wear my ring with the ‘black stone’ to protect me.

Our pig was not as big but I bet just as good and fun!

(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e172/bigbird_000/IMG_3653.jpg)


(First shot at image on this site)
Title: Re: Just got back from PARADISE.
Post by: Beatle on August 01, 2008, 12:09:16 AM
 

       When Salve and I got married in 1991 in Quezon City, we spent the whole ten days I was there going around Quezon City and Manila and NEVER left the city.  Now, at the time I was living in Hawaii and in my mind I thought if this is what the Philippines is like , if we want to see her family we will fly them to Hawaii and I didn\'t think about the Philippines after that except that Salve would tell me about her childhood home in San Jose,Camarines Sur,Bicol. Well we finally got on the internet in the late 90\'s and I searched \" Philippines \"  Wow! here we were surrounded by beautiful countryside and beaches in \'91 and never got to see any of it. Well, today we own her childhood home and we are finishing paying off another home in Canlubang,Laguna and we plan on moving to the RP in this coming March. But as soon as we go though immigration when we land in Manila we will have a van waiting for us (with the motor running ) Thats how fast I want to get out of Manila. I didn\'t lose any thing there so I have no reason to spend any time there.

                Ray
Title: Re: Just got back from PARADISE.
Post by: Beatle on August 01, 2008, 12:16:20 AM


       About the rings/watches , the last time we were in the RP SAlve would not let me wear any , she was afraid  I would get mugged and have them stolen.

    Ray
Title: Re: Just got back from PARADISE.
Post by: donstruan on August 01, 2008, 01:21:48 AM
My wife wants nothing to do with Manila, and I don\'t blame her since she spent all her life in Bukidnon and CDO City, but there are certain things I love about Manila. Maybe some of you know what I\'m talking about, so I\'ll list them here. Unfortunately, or fortunately (he he), if we retire there it would be in CDO City where her family is from.

Restaurants: There are so many more restaurants and of better quality in Manila than the provinces. Sometimes it\'s nice to eat at a luxurious restaurant like Manila Hotel or Shangri-La, and this can\'t be found in other places. Sometimes I like eating at one of the many fast food places that the malls in Manila offer. Just so many to choose from! In fact, try as I might, I could not find any good sisig in CDO- they make it different than Manila.
Of course you can\'t beat the seafood of the provinces or the location of the seafood restaurants when compared to Manila, so thats one thing against Manila.

Massage and spas: The provinces aren\'t even close to the type of service offered in Manila. Because of the competition, the massage and spa providers in Manila are unmatched. After I took my wife to a random spa in the Mall of Asia, she finally understood what a good massage and facial was.

The vibe: I was born and raised in NYC, and the nightlife is definitely out of my system, but there is a certain vibe that Manila offers. With my change in lifestyle, there is no longer a desire to hang out at night, but I still like doing things once in a while and this is impossible in the provinces. You won\'t find me in a bar, nightclub, disco, parlor, etc... but there are still many things to do when the sun goes down.

The beauty: This last part is the best reason for me not to stay in Manila.  ;D The beauty of the filipinas in Manila is unsurpassed. You will not find the same kind of beauties anywhere else in the country or world. Some may have attitudes, and some may feel entitled, but boy are they hot!!!

I could live in Makati, Bohol, or Capiz- it doesn\'t matter so much. The only thing that matters is if I\'m in the Philippines!!!     
Title: Re: Just got back from PARADISE.
Post by: BigBird on August 01, 2008, 02:45:51 AM
When in the city of Manila or Cebu things were expensive!  When in Surigao the choices were limited, but much easier on the wallet.  But when we rounded that bend by our lot on the last road going home things were really cheap and it was a really slow life.  It was nice to eat a Big Mac and take a hot shower and have a cold drink!  Issolation does come into play at times too.  Maybe if they ever get electric in our area (that of my wife\'s family estate) we might actually build on that big lot we bought!  So close to paradise but still so far away too.....
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e172/bigbird_000/bendbeforerplace.jpg)

Did not have to worry about robbery.  It was the witches and warlocks I had to be sure I was protected from when away from the house.

But in Manila the wife did remove all her jewelery.  Once she forgot and was really paranoid as we walked back to the Motel.  She removed it as we walked.
Title: Re: Just got back from PARADISE.
Post by: Beatle on August 01, 2008, 03:50:11 AM
When in the city of Manila or Cebu things were expensive!  When in Surigao the choices were limited, but much easier on the wallet.  But when we rounded that bend by our lot on the last road going home things were really cheap and it was a really slow life.  It was nice to eat a Big Mac and take a hot shower and have a cold drink!  Issolation does come into play at times too.  Maybe if they ever get electric in our area (that of my wife\'s family estate) we might actually build on that big lot we bought!  So close to paradise but still so far away too.....

[url]http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e172/bigbird_000/bendbeforerplace.jpg[/url] ([url]http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e172/bigbird_000/bendbeforerplace.jpg[/url])

Did not have to worry about robbery.  It was the witches and warlocks I had to be sure I was protected from when away from the house.

But in Manila the wife did remove all her jewelery.  Once she forgot and was really paranoid as we walked back to the Motel.  She removed it as we walked.


      Beautiful Lot!!!!!!          How far are you from the nearest town?
Title: Re: Just got back from PARADISE.
Post by: BigBird on August 01, 2008, 04:29:10 AM
It is 7K into Loreto and the port.

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Title: Re: Just got back from PARADISE.
Post by: on August 02, 2008, 01:47:08 AM
I guess it just comes down to different strokes for different folks. We\'re not looking to live in Manila but we do want to be within a couple of hours drive. We have friends in Angeles and Alabang and looked in those areas, along with Cavite. Unfortunately Alabang and the place in Cavite (Porto Rufino?) were quite a bit out of our price range. I remember Laguna as being nice but haven\'t been there in years. Still have a couple of years before making the big move so still time to decide.
Title: Re: Just got back from PARADISE.
Post by: BigBird on August 02, 2008, 02:40:40 AM
I also have 3 - 5 years to decide on the spot.  Family will be a big factor to the wife and no body lives in or near any real major city.  So might just have to go native and hope for the best.  With the cost of housing in her home area it will be easy to pick up and move if I would start to go crazy.

Housing is affordable in that area.  They are nice estates and all landscaped to resemble nature.  Fresh catch was 80 piso a kilo if you have no luck yourself that day.

All my friends here have nice salt water aquariums.  And there we ate for pennies that which they pay hundreds for here!

I guess any place can grow on you over time........

But that 4.5 hour one way ride on the boat to the wet market and stores is hard on the aft section after about 2 hours into the journey!  But great sights of ocean and island along the way......  And then back with most of the day lost to just travel.  Packed like sardines in the bottom of the boat!  Of course, I stay up top in the open air!  If it goes under I want to be able to at least jump.



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Title: Re: Just got back from PARADISE.
Post by: Gray Wolf on August 02, 2008, 06:43:51 AM
BigBird,

From one fellow Kentuckian to another (I live in Louisville  :) ),  check out the info on \"clickable photos\".  It will enhance your images and allow all of us to see better, higher resolution images without overloading the server.

The first and main informative post is from grizzi:

http://livinginthephilippines.com/forum/index.php?topic=206.msg2581#msg2581

The second is my effort to refine the instructions for \"Generate HTML Code\":

http://livinginthephilippines.com/forum/index.php?topic=206.msg9773#msg9773

The PhotoBucket accounts are free and easy to use.  Also, you can save the full size digital images and PhotoBucket will automatically rescale them to the perfect Forum size.  No need to guess at what size is best. 

You can then redo your posts and include the high res images for all of us to see.  One other advantage with this method is that you don\'t have to scroll across the page to see the photos.  We simply click on them and they open to a large image for better viewing. 

Also, if you use Mozilla Firefox as your browser, something we all recommend, when you view an image it opens in a new tab allowing you to keep open all the photos in a collection when viewing, making the photo essay more enjoyable. 

Welcome to the group, neighbor!   :) :)
Title: Re: Just got back from PARADISE.
Post by: imtheredrum on August 10, 2008, 03:25:31 PM
Have been to the PI twice, 3 months in 2006 and 3 months in 2008 just got back to the US in mid July.  My first trip I spent 6 weeks in Luzon... did the manila thing for a week and rented a car (cheap) drove up the coast and took in all the beautiful resorts and enjoyed all.  Vigan and Baguio are top on the list of places to visit for sure. My fiance is from Mindanao and was likewise thrilled with the coast.  2nd half of the trip was in Mindanao... rented a motorcycle and traveled from Iligan, Naawan, CDO, and up the cost to Medina, Gingoog City, the caves, Jurassic Park, Butuan.  pent several days days in each place...  My honey and friends took good care of me and I felt save at every location. Yes it is wise not to flash jewelry or money and it was fun trying to communicate (just learning visayan and Tagalog) and sharing smiles and laughs withe friends and strangers alike.  I gave and received respect and smiles at every stop.

My second trip I was on a mission... find a place to live... city life is needed from time to time for various reasons from supplies to lifting an occasional elbow...LOL.  After all my travels I fell in love with the clean quaint local of Bohol.  I purchased some land. Just big enough to have a garden, and an alarm clock lol.. I will be 1 hour high speed ferry to Cebu with hourly boats in between and a 40 minute drive to Tagbilarin.

I will return this Sept/Oct on a one way ticket. Wedding is all set up and we will stay at her place in Gingoog City temporarily as we will start to build near Tubigon in the spring.

All said these posts are full of good information.  Be aware of your surroundings as you would in any big city and be smart, polite, and respectful... what you give you will receive.  I find the people very very friendly and always willing to help. Try to get help in NYC...lol.  My family has always looked after me and always made sure I was safe.  I can\'t think of a nicer place to live... and can\'t wait to get back... wish you all the best.... Jeff
Title: Re: Just got back from PARADISE.
Post by: Beatle on August 11, 2008, 05:03:45 AM

    Jeff,
              Great first post!  I too have been to the RP twice and plan on moving there in March of \'09, we will be in San Jose , Bicol  and Canlubang,Laguna. Have a blessed move.

    Ray
Title: Re: Just got back from PARADISE.
Post by: imtheredrum on August 11, 2008, 05:20:42 AM
Hey Beatle,

Forgot to mention San Jose... beautiful place and area... close enough to what ever tickles your fancy.  I have to admit, it was a hard decision to pass on the PI Riviera of Northern Luzon.... after weighing the all aspects, I opted for a nice clean quiet place but still within reach of the nightlife if needed.... besides installing an alarm clock in the yard, I am sending all fishing tackle ahead so it will be there waiting for me...LOL... not big on hand lines  :D

Good luck with your plans... God bless you and yours... My door will be easy to open (well after this spring  :D) if you are ever near the Tubigan area site seeing or whatever...

Jeff & Ritz
Title: Re: Just got back from PARADISE.
Post by: Beatle on August 11, 2008, 05:49:26 AM


      Jeff & Ritz,

                        Thank you for the invitation, I would truly like to meet you both and see that part of the Islands. If you have the chance and a picture
there is a photo section of this form, it would be great to see a picture of the both of you.

     Ray
Title: Re: Just got back from PARADISE.
Post by: lifes2short on September 27, 2008, 03:04:22 AM
Hi Jeff & Ritz,

Quick question since you\'re familiar with Gingoog area. Been there in passing going to the BIR office, so somewhat familiar with the immediate locale. We are looking at a property in Consuelo Magsaysay, about 20 minutes north of Gingoog, was wondering if you or Ritz can tell us about the town, what its like, the local going price per square meter for a local person vice Kano. We\'ll be there next month for a much needed R&R.

Thanks for any info,

Joy
Title: Re: Just got back from PARADISE.
Post by: imtheredrum on September 27, 2008, 08:59:33 AM
I will as my asawa about it, her sister lives up there... small town and rural seems clean and quiet... close to Medina... Duka bay... beautiful resort.  Medina\'s land is more expensive because of the developments along the beaches.

I would ask her now but I am in the us on a trip to settle some finances and ship all of our things back to Gingoog.. I get back in country on the 7th of Oct.
Title: Re: Just got back from PARADISE.
Post by: imtheredrum on October 01, 2008, 08:58:17 PM
Hi Jeff & Ritz,

Quick question since you\'re familiar with Gingoog area. Been there in passing going to the BIR office, so somewhat familiar with the immediate locale. We are looking at a property in Consuelo Magsaysay, about 20 minutes north of Gingoog, was wondering if you or Ritz can tell us about the town, what its like, the local going price per square meter for a local person vice Kano. We\'ll be there next month for a much needed R&R.

Thanks for any info,

Joy

The land in Consuelo near the beach is 1 million pesos per hector... roughly 235,000 per 1000 sq. meters... but the price drops by about 30% if you are not near the water areas.  If you let me know how much land you want, I will have my sister in law look into it as if she were going to buy... not for a foreigner... just let me know how much you want and near the water or what?
Title: Re: Just got back from PARADISE.
Post by: lifes2short on October 02, 2008, 06:37:45 AM

The land in Consuelo near the beach is 1 million pesos per hector... roughly 235,000 per 1000 sq. meters... but the price drops by about 30% if you are not near the water areas.  If you let me know how much land you want, I will have my sister in law look into it as if she were going to buy... not for a foreigner... just let me know how much you want and near the water or what?


Thanks for the info. I think we\'ll hold off and see how this economy is going to turn out. :(

Congratulations on your upcoming wedding! Wishing you & Ritz a blissful life together!

Joy