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It’s Your Money => Building in the Philippines => Topic started by: Randor on January 20, 2010, 11:42:35 AM

Title: Barefoot Well Diggers
Post by: Randor on January 20, 2010, 11:42:35 AM
Greetings from Iloilo.

We are getting ready to start on our perimeter fence.
But first we need a well. Here is a report on our well
as of this morning, 20 Jan 2010 --

Four skinny young local boys -- in bare feet and using
primitive tools and equipment -- dug our well by hand.
Two days ago, they struck water at 15 feet. Yesterday
afternoon, with 23 feet of depth and 7 feet of water, we
decided it was deep enough.

This morning, we witnessed an amazing feat -- as the
four skinny barefoot boys, using bamboo poles & rope,
began installing the well casings. See atch --

#1 -- Looking down into the well -- diameter nearly 4 ft,
        depth 23 ft.
#2 -- Hooking up the ropes to carry the well casing
#3 -- Carrying the well casing to the well
#4 -- Muscling it onto bamboo poles above the well

(These last three photos will go in next post...)

#5 -- Standing bare-footed on bamboo poles above
        well, skinny boy lifts 450-lb with his shoulder
#6 -- Bamboo poles removed from under well casing,
         it is now ready to be lowered
#7 -- Primitive bamboo tripod \'crane\' deftly lowers the
well casing to bottom of the well.

Then one boy goes down, removes the ropes from the
well casing now on the bottom under 7 ft of water. Only
15 more well casings to go -- each weighs 450 lbs!

Tropical regards,

Rand D.

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Title: Re: Barefoot Well Diggers
Post by: Randor on January 20, 2010, 11:46:54 AM
The last 3 photos...

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Title: Re: Barefoot Well Diggers
Post by: friendlysaint on January 20, 2010, 12:14:09 PM
Amazing isnt it wat this boys can do with their bare feet. Hope all works well for your new fencing.

Cheers
Andrew
Oton, Iloilo
Title: Re: Barefoot Well Diggers
Post by: aerosick on January 20, 2010, 12:23:00 PM
Really amazing! The dirt piled up looks rocky and clay colored. How hard and/or firm is the well dirt wall before putting down the casing?

Billy
Title: Re: Barefoot Well Diggers
Post by: Randor on January 20, 2010, 12:27:47 PM
Amazing isnt it wat this boys can do with their bare feet. Hope all works well for your new fencing.

Cheers
Andrew
Oton, Iloilo

Hey Andrew, you\'re just a few minutes down the road from us.
Forgive, my chronic forgetfulness, but... have we met?

Rand D.
Title: Re: Barefoot Well Diggers
Post by: Randor on January 20, 2010, 12:40:49 PM
Really amazing! The dirt piled up looks rocky and clay colored. How hard and/or firm is the well dirt wall before putting down the casing?

Billy

Billy, the well\'s clay walls seem very firm, but digging was not that difficult. At 15 feet they hit a gray sand material which may be volcanic sand. I know almost nothing about soils, but my friend Bob Hammerslag [] is quite knowledgeable about soils. His website has lots of info, including info on his well. His building site is about 3 km from ours.

Regards, RD
Title: Re: Barefoot Well Diggers
Post by: friendlysaint on January 20, 2010, 02:31:12 PM
Hi Rand

Nah.............. i dont think we have met yet but would not mind meeting over a couple of cold migs. Gotta get release from my commanding officer n 2 little monsters first. ;D ;D

Which part of Iloilo are you in?

Andrew
Title: Re: Barefoot Well Diggers
Post by: RUFUS on January 21, 2010, 12:10:19 AM
Whats it cost to drill a deep well over there?
Title: Re: Barefoot Well Diggers
Post by: Randor on January 21, 2010, 10:58:22 AM
A well at that depth seems to me, (well drilling experience, Alaska/California), more like ground water then potable drinking/cooking water? Ground water is at 1± meter here and our subdivision well is 60\' deep.

Once you pump it for a few hours, you\'ll know the recovery rate with 7\' of water.

Once the well pumps CLEAR after a few hours, you can then test, (at the source), it for human use.

If you don\'t test it, figure on buying bottled water, or take your chances!

BTW, DON\"T have ANY, (neighbors/yours), septic system near your water source........PERIOD, even 40 meters is to close, IMO!!! 
B-Ray

B-Ray,

I know absolutely nothing about wells, but we only drink bottled mineral water. Here we pay P15 per 5-gal bottle. The well is to supply water for flushing toilets and taking showers.

My friend had a well dug (3 km from here) -- his depth is the same. His water tested ok, but he also does not plan to drink it. Bottled mineral water only for drinking.

Regards, Rand D.
Title: Re: Barefoot Well Diggers
Post by: Randor on January 21, 2010, 11:05:18 AM
Whats it cost to drill a deep well over there?

Rufus,

I have no idea about drilling a well here. All the wells here, those of both expats and locals, are dug wells.
The locals often drink the water, but all the the expats I\'ve met do not.


Regards, Rand D.
Title: Re: Barefoot Well Diggers
Post by: Randor on January 23, 2010, 06:11:49 PM
Oh another way to get pure water from your well.......... not many will really understand this........... build like a moon-shine distillery! But, ya might as well make moon-shine and really enjoy the end product! ROTLMAO!!!   
B-Ray

Hey B-Ray,

Would you happen to be from Kentucky or maybe Tennessee? I\'m from WVa & Ohio -- my Ky & Tenn friends always like to talk about \"makin\' shine.\" I even tasted it a time or two. To me, it was like a mixture of vodka and high-octane jet fuel... hehehe.

Regards, Randor
Title: Re: Barefoot Well Diggers
Post by: fred on January 25, 2010, 03:48:24 PM
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I read somewhere that if you put the water in a clear container and put it on the roof for a number of hours then the heat and UV rays will kill the bacteria. Don\'t quote me, and do it at your own risk  Grin

Colin

It was me that mentioned it here.. CNN did a piece on it somewhere in Africa and had US scientists check it out.. The previously bad water  got an all clear after being left for around 8 hours in hot sun..
Title: Re: Barefoot Well Diggers
Post by: paulgee on January 26, 2010, 04:52:03 AM
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I read somewhere that if you put the water in a clear container and put it on the roof for a number of hours then the heat and UV rays will kill the bacteria. Don\'t quote me, and do it at your own risk  Grin

Colin

It was me that mentioned it here.. CNN did a piece on it somewhere in Africa and had US scientists check it out.. The previously bad water  got an all clear after being left for around 8 hours in hot sun..

I also read that cunning plan somewhere Colin. I remember the only problem mentioned with that might be if there were any solids in the water.

Paul

There ya go, there is a mine of information here, or should that be a well  ;D ;D ;D ;D

Colin
Title: Re: Barefoot Well Diggers
Post by: fred on January 26, 2010, 08:14:11 PM
Apples and oranges aside..This was water that had been contaminated by very very dodgy open running surface sewers..
Title: Re: Barefoot Well Diggers
Post by: Knowdafish on April 08, 2010, 10:55:38 PM
Quote
I read somewhere that if you put the water in a clear container and put it on the roof for a number of hours then the heat and UV rays will kill the bacteria. Don\'t quote me, and do it at your own risk  Grin

Colin


It was me that mentioned it here.. CNN did a piece on it somewhere in Africa and had US scientists check it out.. The previously bad water  got an all clear after being left for around 8 hours in hot sun..


A slow sand water filter is more practical and been proven as a cheap way to filter water

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slow_sand_filter
Title: Re: Barefoot Well Diggers
Post by: Knowdafish on April 30, 2010, 05:19:28 PM
Granted, a sand filter is a good start, but NOT for the end product for human use!!
B-Ray

Au contraire! A Sand filter, if constructed and used correctly, will make most water, (as long as it isn\'t contaminated with heavy metals or chemicals) even if it is heavily laden with bacteria, safe for human use and construction! The beneficial bacteria that colonize the sand bed actually eat the bad bacteria! Read up on it.  ;D
Title: Re: Barefoot Well Diggers
Post by: RUFUS on May 01, 2010, 08:25:20 AM
Agreed...
A sand filter would be perfect to keep out most of the tropical water cooties that would make water unsafe to drink, but if you live downstream from a chemical plant best to stick with bottled water.
Title: Re: Barefoot Well Diggers
Post by: coutts00 on May 01, 2010, 12:35:48 PM
Agreed...
A sand filter would be perfect to keep out most of the tropical water cooties that would make water unsafe to drink, but if you live downstream from a chemical plant best to stick with bottled water.

RUFUS,

Do not take my name in vain....

Da\' Couttie.
Title: Re: Barefoot Well Diggers
Post by: c_a_p_t_a_i_n_r_o_n on May 01, 2010, 01:30:11 PM
I don\'t think a simply sand filter will eliminate Da\'Couttie........in a way that\'s not a bad thing  ;)
Title: Re: Barefoot Well Diggers
Post by: RUFUS on May 02, 2010, 12:50:40 AM
Agreed...
A sand filter would be perfect to keep out most of the tropical water cooties that would make water unsafe to drink, but if you live downstream from a chemical plant best to stick with bottled water.


RUFUS,

Do not take my name in vain....

Da\' Couttie.

Da\' Couttie?
Not Da\' Cooter? ;D ;D ;D
(http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii269/rufusoffroad/th_500x_cooter_final.jpg) (http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii269/rufusoffroad/500x_cooter_final.jpg)
Title: Re: Barefoot Well Diggers
Post by: Randor on May 20, 2010, 06:39:15 PM
20 May 2010 Update --

Well, the barefoot well-diggers have been gone for 4 months. So far our well water has been used only for construction. Even after the house is finished the well water will be used for flushing toilets and taking showers. I will have the water tested, but of coursetest or not we\'d never consider drinking it.

We now pay P12 for 18-liter (5-gal) bottles of drinking water.

Even with no appreciable rain since last October, our well still has not run dry. I know nothing about wells, but don\'t think this describes a well of so-called \"surface water.\" If it depended on surface water, it would\'ve surely gone dry months ago -- but what do I know?... hehehe.

Regards to all, Randor
Title: Re: Barefoot Well Diggers
Post by: rdjlazo@yahoo.com on May 21, 2010, 05:28:47 AM
The major material used  in water filtration is charcoal. The best charcoal
used in diferent filtration such as chemicals, water and minerals is
coconut shell charcoal. So if you are near a place where they grow coconuts
then there must be alot of coco shells in your neighborhood.
The process of making coco charcoal must be an easy process.
Best of luck,
Rudy
Title: Re: Barefoot Well Diggers
Post by: Knowdafish on July 22, 2010, 02:59:16 PM
The major material used  in water filtration is charcoal. The best charcoal
used in different filtration such as chemicals, water and minerals is
coconut shell charcoal. So if you are near a place where they grow coconuts
then there must be a lot of coco shells in your neighborhood.
The process of making coco charcoal must be an easy process.
Best of luck,
Rudy


Coconut shell carbon is indeed the best, but to get the most out of it, and be what is used for high quality filtration, it must be \"activated\". This is way beyond burning coconut shells in a fire pit!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Activated_carbon
Title: Re: Barefoot Well Diggers
Post by: rdjlazo@yahoo.com on July 23, 2010, 12:54:38 AM
I came accross some people from Mindanao who export coco charcoal for processing into activated charcoal
we are talking about. It might be a good idea to study a community that produce a lot of copra
and if there is enough coco shells to turn into coco charcoal that can have some commerical use
or value for export or be sold to exporter of this charcoal. Or maybe find a co that procesesses
this charcoal locally.
Just thought,
Rudy