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Getting Prepared For The Philippines => Sports and Leisure => Topic started by: pennisi.ada on June 21, 2012, 10:52:30 PM

Title: Motorcycles in the Philippines
Post by: pennisi.ada on June 21, 2012, 10:52:30 PM
Dear Sir/Madame,

As students of MIEX Master in International Management (University of Bologna) , my team and I are carrying out a Project Work to analyze the characteristics of the ASEAN Motorcycle Market.

The aim of our research is to determine how the market in the mentioned countries is segmented, and how this segmentation is going to change over a 10-year period, to draw a profile of customers of 2 wheel vehicles equal or over to 250 cc, in the AESEAN countries. Moreover, to determine when the customers switch from 250 cc motorbikes to equal or over 500 cc motorbikes. Furthermore, to research the development of racing activities in the proposed countries, both in off-road and on-road segments.
Consequently, as fundamental part of our research, we would like to interview a Representative of your Motorcycle riders through the questionnaire you find above.

We kindly ask you to return the completed questionnaire within a week upon receipt date of the email. Please remind that your contribution is essential for the completion of our project.

In case of any doubts, please do not hesitate to contact me at pennisi.ada@tiscali.it

Thanks for your collaboration.

Your Faithfully,
Ada Pennisi

Survey Link:
http://kwiksurveys.com?u=MotorcycleInAESEAN
Title: Re: Motorcycles in the Philippines
Post by: Gray Wolf on June 21, 2012, 10:59:29 PM
Dear Ada,

That\'s not how our Forum works.  If you wish to ask specific questons, and receive specific answers, then post your questions here for all to see.  That way when answers are given we are all privy to the information.

This is a privately owned Forum with very strict posting guidelines.  Perhaps you should first read our rules before proceeding.

LinPC Forum Administrator
Title: Re: Motorcycles in the Philippines
Post by: paulgee on June 21, 2012, 11:54:06 PM
As an aside to the question posed: in the Philippines isn\'t there some compelling reason why most people ride fairly low powered bikes, generally under 200cc? Is it a tax reason or import restrictions? Whatever it is I guess it renders this type of questionnaire fairly useless for this country.

Paul
Title: Re: Motorcycles in the Philippines
Post by: on June 22, 2012, 12:03:30 AM
As an aside to the question posed: in the Philippines isn\'t there some compelling reason why most people ride fairly low powered bikes, generally under 200cc? Is it a tax reason or import restrictions? Whatever it is I guess it renders this type of questionnaire fairly useless for this country.

Paul

A good guess Paul would be pure economics. The purchase cost of low end/lower powered bikes combined with fuel efficiency just makes sense in a developing nation. Otherwise you would see more power in many more tricycle and motorela applications for hauling and weight considerations. Philippinos will get by with as little as they can to make things work.  ;D ;D ;D 8)
Title: Re: Motorcycles in the Philippines
Post by: brett4gam on June 23, 2012, 03:30:02 PM
PaulGee

Simply a matter of affordability, the average worker here earns about 3,000 to 5,000 peso/month (5,000 peso US$ around $115) so they simply can\'t afford it.  The people here that own their own private vehicle are financially much better off.

Strange they find the money to modify the exhaust of the small bikes to make them sound like a much bigger bike.

Brett.
Title: Re: Motorcycles in the Philippines
Post by: OldManBill on June 24, 2012, 08:46:56 PM
Its a bit like teenagers here in the US, Brett. I remember my mother telling me that when she was a teenager, some would drill a hole in their mufflers and put a penny inside to make it \"pop\". Now we have mufflers that I call \"killme\'s\" because they are so loud it makes you want to pull the teenager from his car and kill him.
Title: Re: Motorcycles in the Philippines
Post by: Gray Wolf on June 25, 2012, 05:58:31 AM
To All:

It appears that Ms Pennisi was merely interested in getting people to fill out her off-Forum survey.  She also posted the same info on the LinP3 group, but has shown little interest in answering my question to her here or there.

If any of you wish to continue posting about motorcycles, please continue.  But don\'t expect any response from the OP.

Thanks!   :)
Title: Re: Motorcycles in the Philippines
Post by: Steve & Myrlita on June 25, 2012, 08:22:58 AM
To All:

It appears that Ms Pennisi was merely interested in getting people to fill out her off-Forum survey.  She also posted the same info on the LinP3 group, but has shown little interest in answering my question to her here or there.

If any of you wish to continue posting about motorcycles, please continue.  But don\'t expect any response from the OP.

Thanks!   :)
Don\'t you just hate that?
Title: Re: Motorcycles in the Philippines
Post by: Gray Wolf on June 25, 2012, 10:01:36 AM
Don\'t you just hate that?

Yep, I do!   ;D
Title: Re: Motorcycles in the Philippines
Post by: OldManBill on June 25, 2012, 01:20:41 PM
So, whats the price of a Harley in the RP?  ;)  No rice burners for me. lol
Title: Re: Motorcycles in the Philippines
Post by: Gray Wolf on June 25, 2012, 11:46:17 PM
So, whats the price of a Harley in the RP?  ;)  No rice burners for me. lol


Same prices as in the US, unfortunately.  I know of no Harley-Davidson dealers, per se, but there are a few places and people who sell gently used Harleys.  Here are a few that will keep you busy (and drooling) for a while:

http://www.sulit.com.ph/index.php/classifieds+directory/q/harley+davidson+for+sale (http://www.sulit.com.ph/index.php/classifieds+directory/q/harley+davidson+for+sale)

http://www.motorcyclephilippines.com/classifieds/g7-harley-davidson.html (http://www.motorcyclephilippines.com/classifieds/g7-harley-davidson.html)

http://www.ayosdito.ph/Philippines/Motorcycles-1040/harley%20davidson-for-sale (http://www.ayosdito.ph/Philippines/Motorcycles-1040/harley%20davidson-for-sale)

http://www.olx.com.ph/q/harley/c-379 (http://www.olx.com.ph/q/harley/c-379)

http://ph.88db.com/q-HARLEY+DAVIDSON+BIG+BIKE+FOR+SALE/1/ (http://ph.88db.com/q-HARLEY+DAVIDSON+BIG+BIKE+FOR+SALE/1/)

http://harleydavidsonphilippines.com/2.html (http://harleydavidsonphilippines.com/2.html)

Title: Re: Motorcycles in the Philippines
Post by: BudM on June 26, 2012, 04:40:57 PM
Now I know the price on bikes has gone up since the last one I bought, what most Harley riders refer to as a rice burner, back in \'78 new for $1,800.00.  It makes me wonder though how quick the guy figures he will sell that one in the first link for 4m pesos.
Title: Re: Motorcycles in the Philippines
Post by: Metz on June 26, 2012, 08:46:41 PM
Harley dealer is in Makati, I think.  I like my air conditioning too much and they won\'t let anything on the expressway with less than 400cc.

Title: Re: Motorcycles in the Philippines
Post by: Gray Wolf on June 27, 2012, 01:52:20 AM
Now I know the price on bikes has gone up since the last one I bought, what most Harley riders refer to as a rice burner, back in \'78 new for $1,800.00.  It makes me wonder though how quick the guy figures he will sell that one in the first link for 4m pesos.

Wow!  Yeah, I see that one!  Maybe he meant $9,400 and not $94,000.  I\'d offer him about $5000 for it, but it\'s not my style.  Momma and I like big cruisers, like the Heritage Softtail.   ;) 
Title: Re: Motorcycles in the Philippines
Post by: BudM on June 27, 2012, 05:01:50 AM
Yeah, more than likely he must have wound up with one zero too many.  I haven\'t ridden since about \'87.  I was never stopped by FHP (Florida troopers) the whole time I have been here except twice back then by the same trooper in the same spot 6 days apart.  Nailed me for loud mufflers which they were stock and nothing was wrong with them.  Wasn\'t about to go out and spend 250 bucks a piece for new stock mufflers so I parked it.  Then got rid of it a year later. 

Been thinking about maybe getting another one.  Of course, if I do, it won\'t be initially when I am in Paranaque.  If I can get out in the province within time I probably will.  I think during within the first year of the city, I should be able to talk my way out from under the wing of my head of security so that I will be able to tool around with it if I do get to some where that i can ride it.
Title: Re: Motorcycles in the Philippines
Post by: OldManBill on June 27, 2012, 10:59:44 AM
A custom Harley Fat Boy is more my style. So, is it as difficult to import a bike to the RP as it is importing a car?
Title: Re: Motorcycles in the Philippines
Post by: Gray Wolf on June 27, 2012, 09:32:39 PM
A custom Harley Fat Boy is more my style. So, is it as difficult to import a bike to the RP as it is importing a car?

Worse!  There are engine size limitations and the crocodiles who inhabit Philippines Customs will not give you a break.  They routinely charge customs duties equal to the full price of the motorcycle when it was on the showroom floor.  Buy one in country.
Title: Re: Motorcycles in the Philippines
Post by: OldManBill on June 27, 2012, 11:08:09 PM
Ah, are large bikes available there? I would rather be dead than ride a vespa or a dirtbike disguised as a motorcycle.  ;)
Title: Re: Motorcycles in the Philippines
Post by: Gray Wolf on June 28, 2012, 12:04:37 AM
Ah, are large bikes available there? I would rather be dead than ride a vespa or a dirtbike disguised as a motorcycle.  ;)

OMB,

Yes, simply scroll down (or up) to my post with links to Harley-Davidsons for sale.  

No charge for the advice   ---   this time    ;)   ;D
Title: Re: Motorcycles in the Philippines
Post by: Metz on June 28, 2012, 07:38:22 PM
K servico has 1000cc Kawasaki Ninja for sale 500k pesos new
Title: Re: Motorcycles in the Philippines
Post by: gbrown6usa on July 28, 2012, 11:32:18 AM
I must say I am very impressed.  In most forums I have been on if anyone mentions \"Harley\'s vs foreign\" the fight is on.  Glad to see we have some restraint here.
Title: Re: Motorcycles in the Philippines
Post by: Art, just a re(tired) Fil-Am on July 28, 2012, 11:53:59 AM
Quote from: \"gbrown6usa\" post=46732
I must say I am very impressed.  In most forums I have been on if anyone mentions \"Harley\'s vs foreign\" the fight is on.  Glad to see we have some restraint here.

Nice avatar pic of your Harley! Here\'s a few of my favorite pics I wished I had when I was younger.
The fastest bike I\'ve ever been on was on a Kawasaki 1100. I\'m too old for any of that now, especially here in the Philippines with all the crazy undisciplined drivers on the freeways!  :blink:    

[attachment=35]Bike3.jpg[/attachment]

[attachment=36]Bike2.jpg[/attachment]
Title: Re: Motorcycles in the Philippines
Post by: Gray Wolf on July 28, 2012, 11:16:43 PM
Quote from: \"gbrown6usa\" post=46732
I must say I am very impressed.  In most forums I have been on if anyone mentions \"Harley\'s vs foreign\" the fight is on.  Glad to see we have some restraint here.


No fight here!  I\'ll be looking for a Harley when I finally settle in.  By the way, here\'s a pic of Gloria on our last Harley-Davidson Heritage Softtail in Panama City, FL a few years back.  We had to give it up due to a Chapter 13 bankruptcy.  She loved that motorcycle and is insistent on us getting another when we retire.  

[attachment=37]GloonHarley-Davidson.jpg[/attachment]
Title: Re: Motorcycles in the Philippines
Post by: Lee2 on July 29, 2012, 02:29:04 AM
Neat photo Jack, I am not so sure about riding a Harley in the Philippines or what the price might be but I am going to guess pretty expensive. Below was one of my toys in my younger years.


[attachment=39]Cars009.jpg[/attachment]
Title: Re: Motorcycles in the Philippines
Post by: paulgee on July 29, 2012, 04:32:24 AM
Nice combination Jack! I hope you find a bike worthy to take the place of that one. I don\'t think I will be riding a bike in the Philippines, not worth the risk, but it seems the perfect weather there for riding during the dry season. Maybe though ....

Mr Lee, one of my dreams during my younger days was to own an \'Easy Rider\' bike. Whilst I ended up owning the Easy Rider video I never got beyond a Honda 250 before marriage and responsible stuff put an end to 2 wheeled aspirations.

Paul
Title: Re: Motorcycles in the Philippines
Post by: Lee2 on July 29, 2012, 05:12:31 AM
Quote from: \"paulgee\" post=46745
Nice combination Jack! I hope you find a bike worthy to take the place of that one. I don\'t think I will be riding a bike in the Philippines, not worth the risk, but it seems the perfect weather there for riding during the dry season. Maybe though ....

Mr Lee, one of my dreams during my younger days was to own an \'Easy Rider\' bike. Whilst I ended up owning the Easy Rider video I never got beyond a Honda 250 before marriage and responsible stuff put an end to 2 wheeled aspirations.

Paul


Paul, I had a Honda 350 that I basically did the same thing to that I had done to that Harley Sportster and I rode the Honda to work all the time and only rode the Harley when I knew I was going to be close by to watch it.

I also had a Kawasaki 500 after I sold the Honda and it was fun as long as I leaned forward on it or it ended up on just the back wheel if I was sitting up. The Harley was neat but I think I got the most use out of the Honda, so if I were to buy another bike to use in the Philippines and I seriously doubt I ever would in Cebu City because of how dangerous I feel the drivers in the Philippines seem to be, then I would look for something like the Honda and not something like the Harley, but that is just my personal opinion and I did have a lot of great years riding all of them.
Title: Re: Motorcycles in the Philippines
Post by: Gray Wolf on July 29, 2012, 06:30:37 AM
I\'ll own another motorcycle, one way (one brand) or another.  Only because I don\'t plan to live anywhere near Manila or any big city.  All of my riding will be outside of the city, going to the beach, visiting a restaurant or two or simply for pleasure.  

To ride in Manila or Cebu you need solid body armor and a large savings account for your injuries. ;)  :lol:
Title: Re: Motorcycles in the Philippines
Post by: Art, just a re(tired) Fil-Am on July 29, 2012, 09:51:23 AM
Quote from: \"Mr. Lee\" post=46744
I am not so sure about riding a Harley in the Philippines or what the price might be but I am going to guess pretty expensive.
Below was one of my toys in my younger years.
[attachment=39]Cars009.jpg[/attachment]

And I thought that was Tom Jone or Engelbert Humperdinck on that Harley!  :silly:  :silly:  :silly:
Title: Re: Motorcycles in the Philippines
Post by: paulgee on July 29, 2012, 05:27:05 PM
Quote from: \"Art2ro\" post=46749
Quote from: \"Mr. Lee\" post=46744
I am not so sure about riding a Harley in the Philippines or what the price might be but I am going to guess pretty expensive.
Below was one of my toys in my younger years.
[attachment=39]Cars009.jpg[/attachment]

And I thought that was Tom Jone or Engelbert Humperdinck on that Harley!  :silly:  :silly:  :silly:


Yeah, I recognise him now - it\'s Tom Humperdinck!

Talking of bikes reminds me of one of an abiding memory of the first visit I made to the Philippines. Mrs Gees brother has a tricycle for work purposes, and he took us round locally on it. I remember particularly being sat on the back of it late at night riding round the town, and how warm the temperature, just ideal for riding. I compared this with the UK, where hardly any evening is ever close to being warm. On such moments do we develop fond memories and affections for places.

However, it was pretty dangerous for the unknowing riding round at night there, hardly anyone using lights, dangerously unmade roads and random folk wearing dark clothes as they roam the roads. Happy memories though.

Paul
Title: Re: Motorcycles in the Philippines
Post by: gbrown6usa on July 29, 2012, 07:39:48 PM
Thanks but it\'s not a Harley, it\'s a Honda VTX1300. water cooled and shaft driven and over 35000 miles her by yours truely.  I just installed a 240 tire kit before I moved over here.   I had a Suzuki M109 (best bike I ever owned) Wrecked it at about 70mph.  When I woke up I found out I had retired.  So here I am.

This bike is now a dresser, I have thought about bringing it over and selling it.  That is if we are still here after Dec 21st LOL.
Title: Re: Motorcycles in the Philippines
Post by: gbrown6usa on July 29, 2012, 08:13:33 PM
A pic of the widowmaker, may she rust in peace.(http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc11/badrice1/Gordons-new-109.jpg)