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Title: public transportation verses our own and traffic
Post by: BudM on March 22, 2018, 03:14:18 PM
Sure, it is a lot cheaper and better to live here without a car when you only need to do without one two or three months out of the year.
Title: Re: public transportation verses our own and traffic
Post by: Lee2 on March 22, 2018, 03:20:28 PM
Sure, it is a lot cheaper and better to live here without a car when you only need to do without one two or three months out of the year.
No argument from me on that, it also would depend a lot on where a person lives, I am only saying it cost us less to take taxis while in Cebu than own a car, if we lived here full time, then I still do not think we would own a car, I could rent one for the few times we needed one for more than back and forth to the places we go.

BTW I have a friend who lives here 11 months a year and he also does not wish to own a car and feels it is cheaper and safer for him to take taxis but it is sure not as convenient, I have to admit that I miss having my own vehicle when we are here.
Title: Re: public transportation verses our own and traffic
Post by: BudM on March 22, 2018, 03:34:54 PM
Yah, I see where you are coming from but I thought so too.  I went about 3 and a half years relying on public transportation and hired drivers and my wife still uses FX most of the time going back and forth and conducting business.   It catches up with you sooner or later doing without one if you ask me.
Title: Re: public transportation verses our own and traffic
Post by: medic3500 on March 24, 2018, 12:21:42 PM
Been here six years still no car. But I'm in Manila where transportation is abundant. Uber and Grab are my normal go to if we are going anywhere other than the closest SM which is a 7-8 min trike ride. I've done the homework what a car would cost and maintain and I'm still coming up cheaper using public transportation. And the headache is on their driver not me.
Title: Re: public transportation verses our own and traffic
Post by: BudM on March 24, 2018, 07:01:50 PM
I don't think anyone said that public transport is not cheaper.  After a prolonged time, it is just a pain in the butt.  And the driving around here is not as bad as a lot of people make it out to be.  There are certain areas that I avoid driving in during rush hour with Quezon City being one of them.  Just like there are several cities in the US that I refused to drive through during rush hour even on the interstate.  In general, how freaking terrible the traffic is here is all blown up to be worse than it is.
Title: Re: public transportation verses our own and traffic
Post by: medic3500 on March 27, 2018, 06:52:57 PM
I'm in QC and the frustrations are real. Qurino Hwy and Commonwealth the two major roads going into the heart of the city. Both are nightmares 0500-2300 daily.
Title: Re: public transportation verses our own and traffic
Post by: BudM on March 28, 2018, 12:33:57 AM
I'm in QC and the frustrations are real. Qurino Hwy and Commonwealth the two major roads going into the heart of the city. Both are nightmares 0500-2300 daily.

Ahhh, ok.  Not only will I avoid Quezon City during rush hour, I will avoid it all day long daily.  Although I have gone through it on Sunday mornings where I time it for around 7 to 8 heading north and it wasn't too bad.
Title: Re: public transportation verses our own and traffic
Post by: Gray Wolf on March 29, 2018, 01:18:53 AM
I'm in QC and the frustrations are real. Qurino Hwy and Commonwealth the two major roads going into the heart of the city. Both are nightmares 0500-2300 daily.

Our niece attends Adamson University just a few blocks NE of Rizal Park. Many nights she doesn't get home until after midnight due to the traffic. It's often 4-5 hours to get from downtown Manila to the house, a distance of roughly 14 miles (20 kilometers) as the crow flies. We all look forward to her graduation so she can return to more normal hours (and get some much needed sleep). I avoid Quirino Hwy and Commonwealth Ave unless absolutely necessary. Even short tips from the house become major inconveniences when forced to drive either of those routes
Title: Re: public transportation verses our own and traffic
Post by: Lee2 on March 29, 2018, 08:19:50 AM
The price of taxis in Cebu have gone up significantly, we pay around an extra p20 on a p60 trip with all the traffic but we still find it very economical. Now that it is Holy week, traffic has gone down a lot, on Tuesday and yesterday Wednesday, Cebu became a pleasure to travel around in again, so how is traffic where you are on Holy week, today Thursday I suspect there will be no traffic at all and Friday Cebu will no doubt become a Ghost town, past Good Friday's I have walked around Cebu and the air becomes so fresh that it becomes a real pleasure to breath.
Title: Re: public transportation verses our own and traffic
Post by: JoeLP on March 29, 2018, 09:09:04 AM
Living in Northern Samar I use my bike for travel from municipality to municipality in Nothern Samar.  And really, only the west side of Northern Samar.  After that, vans are what I buy rides in to connect to other areas further out.  To get around town, the bike is all I need and I can get pretty much anywhere in a quick time. 
There are still so many here with no private vehicle of any size that getting around is pretty much only slowed down by pedestrians acting like idiots more than heavy traffic. 
Granted, since Duterte did his new setup where every department must use all their money by year's end.....road construction, for the first time since I've been here in 5 years is becoming an issue as there are 6 patches of roadwork that I know of, with at least 1 major bridge all being worked on and I only travel the south side of the city proper.  I've been told there are multiple projects going on on the north side also. 
Title: Re: public transportation verses our own and traffic
Post by: BudM on March 29, 2018, 09:29:14 AM
Sure, it is a lot cheaper and better to live here without a car when you only need to do without one two or three months out of the year.

I did not start this thread.  My post was broken off and is a response to another.
Title: Re: public transportation verses our own and traffic
Post by: Lee2 on March 29, 2018, 09:36:50 AM
I did not start this thread.  My post was broken off and is a response to another.
Yes that is correct, I often break off posts that end up way off topic, the one I took this from was about a Restaurant in Cebu but it was my fault that it ended up also about traffic, my mistake, sorry for any confusion it has caused anyone.
Title: Re: public transportation verses our own and traffic
Post by: BudM on March 29, 2018, 09:41:50 AM
10-4.  No problem.  Just wanted to make sure I wasn't the one starting the thread with a comment out of the wild blue looking to start something.
Title: Re: public transportation verses our own and traffic
Post by: Art, just a re(tired) Fil-Am on March 29, 2018, 10:18:01 AM
Always minimum traffic during Holy Week where we live.
We have our own vehicles, but seldom go out of town on long drives, we hire a vehicle with driver for that.
Title: Re: public transportation verses our own and traffic
Post by: suzukig1 on March 29, 2018, 02:27:42 PM
One reason to own a car is for emergency trips to the hospital.

3 times so far for us.  None life threatening but 2 were scary at the time.

1. Niece, 2 years old, went into convulsions at around 11pm.  Called her doctor and he met everyone at the hospital.  (One reason to have a regular doctor.)

2. Neighbor's mother was experiencing shortness of breath.  My wife drove them to the hospital.  It turned out not to be too severe.  They own a car but it was out at the time.

3. Neighbor kid fell and hit his head.  Lots of blood made it look much worse than it was.  My wife drove him to the hospital to get stitched up.
Title: Re: public transportation verses our own and traffic
Post by: M.C.A. on March 29, 2018, 07:14:23 PM
My first year we tried the public transportation and it was okay at first but it began to get real old fast, the trikes are not comfortable and not much privacy when eating out, I wanted to say more but I'll leave it there, okay another mouth to feed and a stranger or in-law to drag around.  Jeepney's seem always crammed to the max but it's the cheapest form of transportation the trike is not cheap, example 28 pesos for a jeepney ride the same distance with the trike is 300 pesos.

I mainly ride my bike with a basket to the local market and all around the municipality but it feels terrific to get into my old car an 89 Mitsubishi Lancer, 5 speed it beats them all and it cost me 65,000 pesos the only negative in owning a vehicle is the upkeep costs the parts are much more than a motorcycle but you sure can carry a whole lot more people faster and comfortably, it's the best way to get out for the whole family. 

I was given a car sales brochure while at McDonald's last month and still have it, you can purchase a brand new Suzuki vehicle several models and engine sizes for around 700,000 pesos, I've seen a few of these models and they look pretty good.

Now I am looking for another bike a 10 speed this time and Japanese Surplus again for longer trips to the bank or long runs it's a great way to get exercise and get out and for me and a more pleasurable experience, I couldn't imagine waiting for 2-4 hrs in traffic only to travel 15 miles geez I've seen bikes in Manila but I'm sure not all area's have room for one.

Walking is not fun, I did this my first year and it was a real drag along with the animals to many people trike drivers bugging you and if you don't ride the insults in Philippine language or the kids think you want to give away money it seems to draw too much attention and also the dirty roads and incredible heat, I don't recommend walking ever.
Title: Re: public transportation verses our own and traffic
Post by: JoeLP on March 29, 2018, 08:34:47 PM
My first year we tried the public transportation and it was okay at first but it began to get real old fast, the trikes are not comfortable and not much privacy when eating out, I wanted to say more but I'll leave it there, okay another mouth to feed and a stranger or in-law to drag around.  Jeepney's seem always crammed to the max but it's the cheapest form of transportation the trike is not cheap, example 28 pesos for a jeepney ride the same distance with the trike is 300 pesos.

I mainly ride my bike with a basket to the local market and all around the municipality but it feels terrific to get into my old car an 89 Mitsubishi Lancer, 5 speed it beats them all and it cost me 65,000 pesos the only negative in owning a vehicle is the upkeep costs the parts are much more than a motorcycle but you sure can carry a whole lot more people faster and comfortably, it's the best way to get out for the whole family. 

I was given a car sales brochure while at McDonald's last month and still have it, you can purchase a brand new Suzuki vehicle several models and engine sizes for around 700,000 pesos, I've seen a few of these models and they look pretty good.

Now I am looking for another bike a 10 speed this time and Japanese Surplus again for longer trips to the bank or long runs it's a great way to get exercise and get out and for me and a more pleasurable experience, I couldn't imagine waiting for 2-4 hrs in traffic only to travel 15 miles geez I've seen bikes in Manila but I'm sure not all area's have room for one.

Walking is not fun, I did this my first year and it was a real drag along with the animals to many people trike drivers bugging you and if you don't ride the insults in Philippine language or the kids think you want to give away money it seems to draw too much attention and also the dirty roads and incredible heat, I don't recommend walking ever.
I walk most mornings.  But I usually start the walk around 5:45.  Walk about an hour for exercise and just walk the streets in some form or fashion.  The kids are not out in force, and after 5 years most stopped begging as I always say "Waray"(nothing) as I refuse to carry money with me on these walks now days.  The local bums are usually still asleep on whatever business porch they fell asleep on the night before and the people I see are by far more the other people out for exercise than anything.  Some mornings I see young pulis in training from the training grounds that are less than a mile from my house.  Running in formation down the streets.  Other times as I go by the plaza it's got anywhere from 15 up to over 50 running around the track inside it's gates/walls. 
Also, very few vehicles out that time in the morning in Catarman so the pollution is pretty much nil. 
When I first got here I would walk 2-3 times a day and the late morning and afternoon walks would turn out to be full of begging kids, pollution and all the other junk you talked about.  But getting up early at the break of dawn, and in the cooler temps really works out for me much better.
Title: Re: public transportation verses our own and traffic
Post by: BudM on March 29, 2018, 10:34:26 PM
One reason to own a car is for emergency trips to the hospital.

3 times so far for us.  None life threatening but 2 were scary at the time.

1. Niece, 2 years old, went into convulsions at around 11pm.  Called her doctor and he met everyone at the hospital.  (One reason to have a regular doctor.)

2. Neighbor's mother was experiencing shortness of breath.  My wife drove them to the hospital.  It turned out not to be too severe.  They own a car but it was out at the time.

3. Neighbor kid fell and hit his head.  Lots of blood made it look much worse than it was.  My wife drove him to the hospital to get stitched up.

Other reasons I gave in and went and got a vehicle.  Besides it being more convenient for me, my boy is a little less than four and the way he messes with everything and dismantles toys, etc, and runs around outside, I am surprised that he has not cut himself or busted his knee or arm or anything yet.  And if the day comes he does hurt himself that I need to take him to the emergency room, I will have to take his mother too as she near faints if he stubs a toe or jams a finger so I can just imagine.

As far as carrying relatives around as someone else mentioned, they know better.  It just doesn't happen unless I want it to happen.  I do have a few cousins who have families and live down in Laguna and are OFW.  If they have a very early flight out or a very early arrival in the morning, they might stay at my place, after my wife has invited them or they asked.  She checks with me before giving the ok although I know she has pretty much told them I would be ok with it.  Driving in the middle of the night will take me about 15 minutes to or from airport and I have no problem helping them out.  Of course, the ones that stay over for a few hours or overnight, I am ok with and do not mind at all.  The few people I don't have time for, know not to bother asking or even attempt to come around.

So, in my opinion, I need some wheels because as I said earlier, it finally got tiresome the other way.  I also had bikes back in the 70s and 80s but I am pretty sure, in the Metro area, I won't drive without four wheels under me.  Except for the e-bike I take back and forth to the subdivision gate but not outside in traffic.
Title: Re: public transportation verses our own and traffic
Post by: Art, just a re(tired) Fil-Am on March 29, 2018, 11:31:15 PM
I am no one's chauffer except for my wife when I drive her to the supermarket during our weekly grocery shopping. I just drop her off, I go back home to do whatever and pick her up when she's done shopping.
I seldom drive at night or out of town unless it's an emergency.
Our hospital is only a 1/4 mile away and Mercury drug store is just accross the street from where we live.
Title: Re: public transportation verses our own and traffic
Post by: jjcabgou on March 30, 2018, 10:41:06 AM
We have a car, and I cant imagine living here without a vehicle, for many of the reasons others have already mentioned.   I would feel like a prisoner without my own vehicle.   This goes back to other posts regarding life here in the Philippines.    Everybody is different though and some prefer the much simpler life.   
Title: Re: public transportation verses our own and traffic
Post by: BudM on March 30, 2018, 01:04:21 PM
I am with the general conscience of several others on this thread.  It doesn't matter that I have a vehicle.  Other than giving my wife an occasional ride somewhere, I don't chauffeur anyone around.  I might give someone a ride where I am going or maybe decided to help someone out and offer them a ride even though they had all intentions of taking public transportation but there is no two ways about it.  I am not going to be a chauffeur for anyone.
Title: Re: public transportation verses our own and traffic
Post by: Art, just a re(tired) Fil-Am on March 30, 2018, 01:54:32 PM
If I had the money, I would convert a 3/4 ton self contained van or mini-bus like an RV but with an electric motor including a personal mechanic/driver, airconditioning, mini kitchen, toilet, shower, beds for 6 that has a 500 mile range per charge. I would certainly be out and about more often where ever we wanted to go in Luzon. Traffic wouldn't be too much of an issue since we're traveling in comfort.
Title: Re: public transportation verses our own and traffic
Post by: David690 on March 30, 2018, 06:23:03 PM
Personally I wouldn't want to be without my pickup truck.  It's our adventure vehicle for weekend forays outa town.  The wife uses her own car for shopping, errands etc.  On all the numerous stays here before we moved here full-time, we used taxis everywhere.  It's OK until you need one in a hurry or it's busy leaving a mall and the taxi queue is 100 persons long.  I realise that this will, most likely be the last new car I will ever own, so I'm gonna make the most of it.  Driving in traffic in Davao, doesn't freak me out, I'm never in a hurry so if the taxis and jeepneys wanna shove in, be my guest.
Title: Re: public transportation verses our own and traffic
Post by: Gray Wolf on March 31, 2018, 12:00:27 AM
My biggest issue on owning a vehicle is where to keep it when we're not driving. Our current house is in the middle of a poor barangay. You can't get anything larger than a tricycle to the front of the house. I certainly wouldn't want to leave my vehicle sitting out on the nearest street to be picked over, scratched, bumped into by the locals. If we do decide to rent or build another home, it would definitely have to have a carport or garage, otherwise I'm afraid any vehicle I purchase would be beat up, broken into and stripped of it's parts. Don't get me wrong, I want to own a vehicle, and maybe I will one day. But it will have to be somewhere other than Bagong Silang.

No, we don't live in the PH full time. And yes, I do have a brother in law with a nice car who is usually willing to drive me anywhere I want to go. But there are some places and times I'd like to be able to simply jump in my own SUV with my wife and drive away for the day/weekend/week/month without having to take other family in tow. I hate having to schedule day trips days in advance. Sometimes a guy has to just be able to hop in his truck and go.
Title: Re: public transportation verses our own and traffic
Post by: BudM on March 31, 2018, 01:05:23 AM
Is there enough room for one of these?
Title: Re: public transportation verses our own and traffic
Post by: Gray Wolf on March 31, 2018, 02:31:44 AM
Room for the car? Yeah. Room enough for my big ass to fit inside the car? No way, Jose'  :D :D :D
Title: Re: public transportation verses our own and traffic
Post by: FastWalk on March 31, 2018, 01:12:01 PM
Is there enough room for one of these?

that looks cool (i see snow).  can put one on each foot and roller skate.
Title: Re: public transportation verses our own and traffic
Post by: sonnychiba on March 31, 2018, 02:50:53 PM
We have owned a vehicle since we moved here in 2009. In Negros Occidental, there are not any taxis outside of Bacolod City. Even in the city, there are locations where a taxi is not a common find. We live in a subdivision on the South Side of Bacolod, actually a rural area but still in the City Limits.

We would have to walk a half km, catch a trike to the main road and hope for a taxi. We gotta have a vehicle at home. Yes, it costs to operate but we can be at a private hospitals within 15 minutes from our home in our Isuzu MU-X. Even in the city, the Golden Hour is ticking while waiting for a ambulance to arrive.

Our full coverage insurance is P29,000 per year on the MU-X and it is well worth it. We can get in our own vehicle and go wherever we like when we want. We can take road trips to just about any area in the Philippines without flying or taking a bus . We take a road trip about every month and it is part of this great adventure. We do sometimes have to take the RoRo with the MU-X but once we arrive at our destination, we do not have to rely upon local transportation. We drive to where we want to go.

~ Gary ~
Bacolod City

Title: Re: public transportation verses our own and traffic
Post by: JoeLP on March 31, 2018, 07:12:17 PM
Is there enough room for one of these?
A pregnant rollerskate?
Title: Re: public transportation verses our own and traffic
Post by: JoeLP on March 31, 2018, 07:16:47 PM
We have owned a vehicle since we moved here in 2009. In Negros Occidental, there are not any taxis outside of Bacolod City. Even in the city, there are locations where a taxi is not a common find. We live in a subdivision on the South Side of Bacolod, actually a rural area but still in the City Limits.

We would have to walk a half km, catch a trike to the main road and hope for a taxi. We gotta have a vehicle at home. Yes, it costs to operate but we can be at a private hospitals within 15 minutes from our home in our Isuzu MU-X. Even in the city, the Golden Hour is ticking while waiting for a ambulance to arrive.

Our full coverage insurance is P29,000 per year on the MU-X and it is well worth it. We can get in our own vehicle and go wherever we like when we want. We can take road trips to just about any area in the Philippines without flying or taking a bus . We take a road trip about every month and it is part of this great adventure. We do sometimes have to take the RoRo with the MU-X but once we arrive at our destination, we do not have to rely upon local transportation. We drive to where we want to go.

~ Gary ~
Bacolod City
Have you had any need to file a claim on the car?  How did the insurance company respond?  Almost every story I heard the insurance companies here are always looking for a way out(just like the ones in the USA) but can deny payments on simple things like the other vehicle not having insurance and all.  So even full coverage didn't have broadform insurance.
Title: Re: public transportation verses our own and traffic
Post by: BudM on March 31, 2018, 09:59:39 PM
Case against relying on public transportation.

My boy's Yaya left for CamSur this morning in order to spend a few days at home since it is her youngest child's elementary graduation.  I took her to the Alabang bus terminal this morning and arrived there at 5:30am.  On Saturday in the middle of the holiday week, there were a lot of people there.  She was not able to get a seat right away and finally got on a bus and left Alabang at 11:00am.  Well, the bus broke down after 6 hours of the trip right before they got to Lopez, Quezon.  I have just talked to her at 9:45pm Saturday night and they are still setting on the side of the road waiting for a mechanic to get there after breaking down around 5pm.  How ever long it takes for either repairs or to get another bus for transfer, she still has about a 3 hours to go on her trip.

Yeah, I know she doesn't have the options that I have and she will endure it and still be smiling.  But, if anyone thinks I would be happy stuck on the side of the road like that for that long, they don't know me then.
Title: Re: public transportation verses our own and traffic
Post by: sonnychiba on March 31, 2018, 10:38:51 PM
Yes, this year we filed a claim with the insurance company, Malayan Insurance. We had a fender bender accident with no one hurt and it was the fault of the other driver. The other driver could not pay, so we had to pay the P7,500 deductible but the entire front fender was replaced, to a tune of almost P50,000. Our vehicle is a 2017 Isuzu MU-X.

A police blotter was filed, we filed the claim. A Rep came out from the Insurance Company and took photos of the damage.

The only complaint I had was that it took around 2 months to get the fender replaced, as it had to be ordered through Manila. Of course, we could still drive the vehicle in the meantime. I am glad the accident did not involve more damage!

~ Gary ~
Bacolod City