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Title: COVID19
Post by: MotorSarge on April 23, 2020, 09:58:52 AM
Is this not the topic/subject tab we should all be posting on for relative Corona Virus issues...good for historical info/later new members.
 
Title: Re: COVID19
Post by: Gray Wolf on May 19, 2020, 03:57:07 AM
Motor Sarge - It makes sense to me. But as sure as I say this I will be wrong  :o :D
Title: Re: COVID19
Post by: MotorSarge on May 19, 2020, 10:15:56 PM
Lol..I understand...tracking ya like SuperBeta!
Speaking of old formats...Drive- in movies theaters the ones that have survive are a huge hit with COVID19 on the scene.
Was nothing like hopping in a trunk to get in and hang a speaker on the ol window.
Title: Re: COVID19
Post by: Gray Wolf on June 06, 2020, 03:38:15 AM
Lol..I understand...tracking ya like SuperBeta!
Speaking of old formats...Drive- in movies theaters the ones that have survive are a huge hit with COVID19 on the scene.
Was nothing like hopping in a trunk to get in and hang a speaker on the ol window.

Been there, done that. But my favorite thing to do was to fill up a cooler with frothy beverages, grab the "cutie of the week" and park on the back row  8)
Title: Re: COVID19
Post by: MotorSarge on June 06, 2020, 07:10:07 AM
Wow.....like from a month ago reply....defiantly cornfused…...maybe some website politics or ya just watching all the waves roll in.?
Title: Re: COVID19
Post by: Gray Wolf on June 15, 2020, 12:56:06 AM
Have been busy with life in the land of the Big PX   8)
Title: Re: COVID19
Post by: MotorSarge on July 14, 2020, 07:03:55 AM
Is this not the topic/subject tab we should all be posting on for relative Corona Virus issues...good for historical info/later new members.
 
Ahh LIF members... be sure to educate your family and/or possible survivors of webpages & business sites you use to make your life functions happen, make sure they know usernames & passwords and locations of hard legal documents. Inform them of locations of offsite properties, cars, boats trailers, storage units...etc. None of us want to leave our love ones in the dark without notice...so don't add more pain, confusion, stress, legality issues and unjust loss because of ignorance that is easily overlooked. The COVID19 just makes this a reassurance of life's instabilities. 
Title: Re: COVID19
Post by: JoeLP on July 15, 2020, 05:10:33 PM
Covid Case Counting: EXPOSED! Shocking Truth WITH CLEAR PROOF

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nuv7NM_NfQs

Well, on the preview the video doesn't appear to be showing.  So he're the link.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nuv7NM_NfQs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nuv7NM_NfQs)

Keep in mind, this junk is going on at the same time as more and more testing is being done at higher rates.  Even further skewing the metrics.  And as more and more are testing positive, less and less are dying.  Linked? 

The further and further we get into(out of?) this covid19 mess the more and more you see the evidence of media intentionally trying to stir fear by way over pushing nonsense to frighten people how can step back and make reality of the fantasy that the media is reporting.

Been saying it everywhere, even here for some time now, covid19 is only "killing more" than the flu is due to cases being attibuted to covid that do not belong to it and that there is no vaccine shot for it.  Soon as the bullsh!t reporting stops and the vaccine is created, it'll be far less harmful than the flu.  Still firmly believe that. Time will show it to be real.
Title: Re: COVID19
Post by: Steve & Myrlita on July 15, 2020, 06:02:29 PM
Just do the 5-7 day regimen of Hydroxychloroquin, Arithimycin, & Zinc Sulfate and you're good to go.
Title: Re: COVID19
Post by: JoeLP on July 15, 2020, 06:04:08 PM
What Is Causing the Spike in COVID-19 Cases?

#Invalid YouTube Link#
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1z664H7EiA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1z664H7EiA)

Key point in the video that drives the continued quarantine and shutdown as over reach.  The point of the temporary shutdown was to give the hospitals a break.  Now with fewer covid19 cases in hospitals and very little beds being used for it, along with all the other advancements made, it's time to reopen.
Title: Re: COVID19
Post by: JoeLP on July 15, 2020, 06:12:05 PM
Just do the 5-7 day regimen of Hydroxychloroquin, Arithimycin, & Zinc Sulfate and you're good to go.
Agree. 
Did everyone notice that the only thorough, proper and clinical testing done on Hydroxychloroquin showed hard evidence that it works?  Done in Detroit with hard testing on everyone from healthcare workers to patients at every level or progression and all results tested and compared show it actually does have a positive effect on helping with covid19.  Man the media pushed a negative agenda on Hydroxychloroquin and even when hard evidence with proper, clinical testing they kept bringing up the wily nily tests that carry little scientific validity.
Any states not opening up their schools will look the largest fools down the road. But the media will try and cover for them with a lot of "what ifs". 
Post script.  I do not think hydroxychloroquin is the end of, be all of fighting covid19.  I do think, based on the results, it's and adequate drug to use in fighting it.  I hope a vaccine or a more power drug at fighting covid19(like the one currently being herald in Israel that can cure the sickness, but isn't really a vaccine) comes out very soon and can at least reduce the deaths between now and when the vaccine is in place and being used worldwide.  I'm just sick of all the bullsh!t that the media is pushing on it.
Title: Re: COVID19
Post by: Hestecrefter on July 15, 2020, 11:48:37 PM

Been saying it everywhere, even here for some time now, covid19 is only "killing more" than the flu is due to cases being attibuted to covid that do not belong to it and that there is no vaccine shot for it.  Soon as the bullsh!t reporting stops and the vaccine is created, it'll be far less harmless than the flu.  Still firmly believe that. Time will show it to be real.

JoeLP, I am taking it that when you say "it'll be far less harmless than the flu" you perhaps intended to convey the meaning "it'll be far less harmful than the flu."  But I want to clarify, to be sure. 
Title: Re: COVID19
Post by: MotorSarge on July 16, 2020, 12:06:09 AM
Agree. 
Did everyone notice that the only thorough, proper and clinical testing done on Hydroxychloroquin showed hard evidence that it works?  Done in Detroit with hard testing on everyone from healthcare workers to patients at every level or progression and all results tested and compared show it actually does have a positive effect on helping with covid19.  Man the media pushed a negative agenda on Hydroxychloroquin and even when hard evidence with proper, clinical testing they kept bringing up the wily nily tests that carry little scientific validity.
Any states not opening up their schools will look the largest fools down the road. But the media will try and cover for them with a lot of "what ifs". 
Post script.  I do not think hydroxychloroquine is the end of, be all of fighting covid19.  I do think, based on the results, it's and adequate drug to use in fighting it.  I hope a vaccine or a more power drug at fighting covid19(like the one currently being herald in Israel that can cure the sickness, but isn't really a vaccine) comes out very soon and can at least reduce the deaths between now and when the vaccine is in place and being used worldwide.  I'm just sick of all the bullsh!t that the media is pushing on it.

I think alot of the negativity about Hydroxy was because Prez Trump supported it and so the far flung left needed to take another swat at him. I took Hydroxy weekly for a good 20 months back in 2003/2004 while in Afghanistan...I'm still here! As far as the media is...there might be some misreporting but I got family in Texas and Florida and the hospitals are overrun with patient's and the death count is around 100 a day.....1 death is too many in my book.

I am very curious about all the bullshit that will break out when the vaccine is available. Who will get it? Who won't? Who gets it first? Is it free?? Will it be a chaotic event or just smooth sailing?

I say the best thing to do is tell all the destructive anarchist it was made in the Trump Laboratory by Trump Supporters 8)


Edit by Steve & Myrlita: Fixed the Quote.
Title: Re: COVID19
Post by: JoeLP on July 16, 2020, 01:20:56 AM
JoeLP, I am taking it that when you say "it'll be far less harmless than the flu" you perhaps intended to convey the meaning "it'll be far less harmful than the flu."  But I want to clarify, to be sure.

Exactly. Thank you for catching that mistake.  I already corrected it.
Title: Re: COVID19
Post by: JoeLP on July 16, 2020, 01:26:31 AM

MotorSarge,
As to what happens when the vaccine comes out...I think a lot of it will depend on who and where it is created.  If in the USA, then it'll be mass produced there and those in the USA will get it long before someone like us living here in the Philippines will get it.  Long being relative.  I think inside a year, most countries, and a vast majority of the first world countries will be getting it and dispersing it.

Then as to who get's it first in each country will depend greatly on the country.  Say Canada would probably be able to set it up so those who need it most get it first as they have a system that can handle it and make that work.  But a country like Sudan or Iran or what have you...it'll be much more political and wouldn't surprise me a  bit if it's the rich and powerful that get if first. 

All this said, I do see a very real possibility that if a first world country develops it first, they'll share their discovery with other countries if they want to foot the bill of setting up all the required production facilities to create the vaccine, or be willing to do something to help get it to those countries quicker on a budget price.
Title: Re: COVID19
Post by: MotorSarge on July 16, 2020, 04:11:40 AM
MotorSarge,
As to what happens when the vaccine comes out...I think a lot of it will depend on who and where it is created.  If in the USA, then it'll be mass produced there and those in the USA will get it long before someone like us living here in the Philippines will get it.  Long being relative.  I think inside a year, most countries, and a vast majority of the first world countries will be getting it and dispersing it.

Then as to who get's it first in each country will depend greatly on the country.  Say Canada would probably be able to set it up so those who need it most get it first as they have a system that can handle it and make that work.  But a country like Sudan or Iran or what have you...it'll be much more political and wouldn't surprise me a  bit if it's the rich and powerful that get if first. 

All this said, I do see a very real possibility that if a first world country develops it first, they'll share their discovery with other countries if they want to foot the bill of setting up all the required production facilities to create the vaccine, or be willing to do something to help get it to those countries quicker on a budget price.

I echo you Joe ;D
Title: Re: COVID19
Post by: JoeLP on July 16, 2020, 01:57:25 PM
‘A Year's Worth of Suicide Attempts in Four Weeks’: The Unintended Consequences of COVID-19 Lockdowns

https://fee.org/articles/a-years-worth-of-suicide-attempts-in-four-weeks-the-unintended-consequences-of-covid-19-lockdowns/?fbclid=IwAR3arrXI8-0TlB6NzxgcrvsOU4ZaIqxrvSFGmUbqLSxlAchoRlCS4iWUpRo

3 States Account for 42 Percent of All COVID-19 Deaths in America. Why?

https://fee.org/articles/3-states-account-for-42-percent-of-all-covid-19-deaths-in-america-why/

Title: Re: COVID19
Post by: MotorSarge on July 16, 2020, 10:27:23 PM
‘A Year's Worth of Suicide Attempts in Four Weeks’: The Unintended Consequences of COVID-19 Lockdowns

https://fee.org/articles/a-years-worth-of-suicide-attempts-in-four-weeks-the-unintended-consequences-of-covid-19-lockdowns/?fbclid=IwAR3arrXI8-0TlB6NzxgcrvsOU4ZaIqxrvSFGmUbqLSxlAchoRlCS4iWUpRo

3 States Account for 42 Percent of All COVID-19 Deaths in America. Why?

https://fee.org/articles/3-states-account-for-42-percent-of-all-covid-19-deaths-in-america-why/

After clicking the link I decided not to.
But as for 3 leading total death states....NY, NJ, Mass and lets add #4&5 while were at it ....Cali & Il!
All led by the same type of incompetent leaders ???.
Title: Re: COVID19
Post by: lost_in_samoa on July 17, 2020, 04:30:34 AM

How a False Hydroxychloroquine Narrative Was Created (https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/07/joseph-mercola/how-a-false-hydroxychloroquine-narrative-was-created-2/)

Title: Re: COVID19
Post by: JoeLP on July 17, 2020, 08:32:46 AM
How a False Hydroxychloroquine Narrative Was Created (https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/07/joseph-mercola/how-a-false-hydroxychloroquine-narrative-was-created-2/)
Good to see a nicely written out and to some point researched article on hydroxychloroquine.  I think most of us with our heads not shoved up our rear ends can sit back and look at the facts and see that hydroxychloroquine isn't evil, bad or the issue.  It's been around for decades and decades.  If a drug is bad, it would have been pulled off the shelves decades ago.  It's not killing anyone, no matter how many democrats you hear on tv saying it's a deadly drug.  The covid19 is killing people, and often they are too far gone to save.  Blaming their deaths on hydroxychloroquine is as dumb as someone dying from a car accident but because they are coughing as they are dying it's blamed on covid19 despite no test being done to prove it.  Fools pushing an agenda.
Title: Re: COVID19
Post by: JoeLP on July 18, 2020, 03:07:32 PM
Oklahoma family says the government is lying about their grandpa's death: He 'didn't die from COVID'.
https://www.theblaze.com/news/oklahoma-family-government-lying-covid-death?utm_content=buffere6a9f&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=fb-glennbeck&fbclid=IwAR3uo_0ameYafuX2t7semJfn3gB_lLwerha8yP1p3nY1JEhi79Es_suahUc (https://www.theblaze.com/news/oklahoma-family-government-lying-covid-death?utm_content=buffere6a9f&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=fb-glennbeck&fbclid=IwAR3uo_0ameYafuX2t7semJfn3gB_lLwerha8yP1p3nY1JEhi79Es_suahUc)

Florida man in his 20s listed among COVID-19 fatalities — but health officer says he died in motorcycle crash
https://www.theblaze.com/news/florida-man-in-his-20s-listed-among-covid-19-fatalities-but-health-officer-says-he-died-in-motorcycle-crash?utm_content=buffercacb1&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=fb-theblaze&fbclid=IwAR3IomgfvtCUdHsY5NFwRJtiJCOqhguEVBrdUcLWIiabzqnkyKvPxqOAEx0 (https://www.theblaze.com/news/florida-man-in-his-20s-listed-among-covid-19-fatalities-but-health-officer-says-he-died-in-motorcycle-crash?utm_content=buffercacb1&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=fb-theblaze&fbclid=IwAR3IomgfvtCUdHsY5NFwRJtiJCOqhguEVBrdUcLWIiabzqnkyKvPxqOAEx0)

How many other non virus related deaths are being blamed on covid19?  10?  100?  1000?  This is as corrupt as all the damn Dem governors who threw infected people into nursing homes and killed so many.  Or the same idiots(Dems/Liberals) telling the police to stand down while buildings are burning and being looted. 

The coming election will be interesting to witness.  America is no longer going to return to what was.  Which way is it going to go?
Title: Re: COVID19
Post by: MotorSarge on July 19, 2020, 02:53:35 AM
Oklahoma family says the government is lying about their grandpa's death: He 'didn't die from COVID'.
https://www.theblaze.com/news/oklahoma-family-government-lying-covid-death?utm_content=buffere6a9f&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=fb-glennbeck&fbclid=IwAR3uo_0ameYafuX2t7semJfn3gB_lLwerha8yP1p3nY1JEhi79Es_suahUc (https://www.theblaze.com/news/oklahoma-family-government-lying-covid-death?utm_content=buffere6a9f&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=fb-glennbeck&fbclid=IwAR3uo_0ameYafuX2t7semJfn3gB_lLwerha8yP1p3nY1JEhi79Es_suahUc)

Florida man in his 20s listed among COVID-19 fatalities — but health officer says he died in motorcycle crash
https://www.theblaze.com/news/florida-man-in-his-20s-listed-among-covid-19-fatalities-but-health-officer-says-he-died-in-motorcycle-crash?utm_content=buffercacb1&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=fb-theblaze&fbclid=IwAR3IomgfvtCUdHsY5NFwRJtiJCOqhguEVBrdUcLWIiabzqnkyKvPxqOAEx0 (https://www.theblaze.com/news/florida-man-in-his-20s-listed-among-covid-19-fatalities-but-health-officer-says-he-died-in-motorcycle-crash?utm_content=buffercacb1&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=fb-theblaze&fbclid=IwAR3IomgfvtCUdHsY5NFwRJtiJCOqhguEVBrdUcLWIiabzqnkyKvPxqOAEx0)

How many other non virus related deaths are being blamed on covid19?  10?  100?  1000?  This is as corrupt as all the damn Dem governors who threw infected people into nursing homes and killed so many.  Or the same idiots(Dems/Liberals) telling the police to stand down while buildings are burning and being looted. 

The coming election will be interesting to witness.  America is no longer going to return to what was.  Which way is it going to go?

Joe, I'm in my late 50s and have four brothers older than me in there 60s and I agree with you 100%. I have been noticing for quite some time now the change in generations that is bringing this on. So I am attaching/adding something I found the other day that just puts my thoughts into words and saved this and gave it the Title of Beyond The Baby Boomers. Once again I did not write this but it is exactly how I would articulate my thoughts.

Beyond the Baby Boomers

The failure of the parents to impose rules on their children has led to a generation of infantilized dependent adults for whom the only tolerable limits are their own self-made safe spaces, according to sociologist Frank Furedi. In his book Why Borders Matter, the emeritus professor from the University of Kent at Canterbury said that the age group sometimes referred to as the snowflake generation, is the result of three to four generations of parents who failed their responsibility to convey past values on to their children. ‘Children develop by reacting against these codes. It is a character-forming and creative process essential to achieving self-sufficiency and intellectual independence. Growing up with this lack of boundaries has meant that young people are confused and have nothing to measure their own values or other standards against. As a result, millennial adult-juveniles are unable to listen to the opinions of others so that they can make their own judgments. Taught not to think for themselves, the Snowflake Generation respond negatively to claims of ‘racism’ or ‘fascism’ as did Pavlov’s dog. The scientist’s dog salivated each time he rang a bell to signal the hound’s food was on its way. The dog continued to salivate when the bell rang even though the food bowl stayed in the cupboard. The unthinking snowflake or zombie apocalypse generation salivate each time they hear them cry, ‘racist’ or ‘fascist’. Asked why they are clueless. Without moral and societal boundaries borders, snowflakes construct their own boundaries in the form of safe spaces in which they can distance themselves from the opinions of people with whom they disagree. This stokes identity politics said Furedi. The professor says, ‘The thing about identity (snowflake) politics is that every expression they use is actually a contradiction. They support diversity but identity politics is completely hostile to the diversity of opinions. So if you argue a narrative other than what they themselves hold dear, that is considered racist, insulting, or hate’. Failure to create standards and rules has also led to two other phenomena: a slowdown in reaching maturity and the separation of parents from adulthood’ when trying to be friends with their children. The whole development process is compromised. You end up in a situation where the transition from childhood to adolescence takes much longer if maturity happens at all. The professor, remembers a man wearing a T-shirt with the slogan ‘I’m done growing up; fathers who listen to the same music as their sons, copy their dialogue, watch the same infantile movies, and wear the same juvenile clothing. Mothers and daughters show roles reversed in which the daughter tells the mother what to wear. ‘There is almost this deliberate effort not to be the father or mother of the child, but their best friend, whom children do not need,’ he remarked. A September 2019 study found that British millennials were the least happy of all age groups, while another August 2019 survey found that nine out of ten British people between the ages of 16 and 29 said they felt they had their lives have no meaning and purpose.
Title: Re: COVID19
Post by: JoeLP on July 19, 2020, 08:33:16 AM
A lot of truth to that Motorsarge.  A lot.

And sadly, I see it all around me.  Pisses me off, more mostly when I see it trying to enter my house.  People telling us we should let our son eat what he wants.  Should be allowed to go where he wants.  Etc, etc.  I was raised, probably as you were, in a generation where we ate what was on our plate, or we didn't eat at all.  That we needed to notify our parents of where we were going, if only to give them some comfort of mind as we would, more than not, be somewhere else playing around rather than at the town park. 

But, there was that structure for kids to check themselves against that is sorely missing now.  The "measuring stick" for them to use, even if they don't always agree with it.  I know I hated that measuring stick more than I admit.  But, it was at least there. 

And I think too many of today's youth are to damn far gone to even have a clue to what we are talking about.
Title: Re: COVID19
Post by: lost_in_samoa on July 19, 2020, 10:21:51 AM
I have been noticing for quite some time now the change in generations that is bringing this on.

And sadly, I see it all around me.  Pisses me off

I am beginning to think that the change y'all are describing is deliberate.  Engineered.

Either on of you ever read Animal Farm (https://archive.org/details/animalfarmgeorgeorwell_201910)?

I look around me,  watch the news, and I am reminded of the "storm trooper" puppies described in that book.

Title: Re: COVID19
Post by: JoeLP on July 19, 2020, 04:49:05 PM
I am beginning to think that the change y'all are describing is deliberate.  Engineered.

Either on of you ever read Animal Farm (https://archive.org/details/animalfarmgeorgeorwell_201910)?

I look around me,  watch the news, and I am reminded of the "storm trooper" puppies described in that book.
I have not read it, but I just bookmarked the link(thank you).   Will try and schedule some time to read it. 
p.s.  It looks like the link you shared is in indonesian.  I'll find an english copy of it.  Probably download it.
Title: Re: COVID19
Post by: lost_in_samoa on July 20, 2020, 04:54:42 AM
It looks like the link you shared is in indonesian.

Oops my bad.  try this (https://archive.org/details/animalfarm00orwe_0).

I was fortunate enough to go to a high school that had this as part of the curriculum.  I remember we spent two weeks in lectures / discussions.  Had an essay exam that was 20% of the grade.



Title: Re: COVID19
Post by: MotorSarge on July 20, 2020, 08:33:22 AM
A lot of truth to that Motorsarge.  A lot.

And sadly, I see it all around me.  Pisses me off, more mostly when I see it trying to enter my house.  People telling us we should let our son eat what he wants.  Should be allowed to go where he wants.  Etc, etc.  I was raised, probably as you were, in a generation where we ate what was on our plate, or we didn't eat at all.  That we needed to notify our parents of where we were going, if only to give them some comfort of mind as we would, more than not, be somewhere else playing around rather than at the town park. 

But, there was that structure for kids to check themselves against that is sorely missing now.  The "measuring stick" for them to use, even if they don't always agree with it.  I know I hated that measuring stick more than I admit.  But, it was at least there. 

And I think too many of today's youth are to damn far gone to even have a clue to what we are talking about.

I cant find the Thumps Up ...but yep.
Title: Re: COVID19
Post by: MotorSarge on July 20, 2020, 08:38:24 AM
I am beginning to think that the change y'all are describing is deliberate.  Engineered.

Either on of you ever read Animal Farm (https://archive.org/details/animalfarmgeorgeorwell_201910)?

I look around me,  watch the news, and I am reminded of the "storm trooper" puppies described in that book.

I have not LIS...can I find it online?...or is it available in hardback? If hardback I'll check it out at my local library. I know I am dating myself but I still like literature, facts and life in hard copy reading material.
Title: Re: COVID19
Post by: MotorSarge on July 20, 2020, 08:45:41 AM
Oops my bad.  try this (https://archive.org/details/animalfarm00orwe_0).

I was fortunate enough to go to a high school that had this as part of the curriculum.  I remember we spent two weeks in lectures / discussions.  Had an essay exam that was 20% of the grade.

Disregard...I opened the link and recognized one of the covers as an assignment read for my son's early college last year.  I will read it this week and give you my follow up.

Thank you.
Title: Re: COVID19
Post by: Hestecrefter on July 20, 2020, 10:51:19 PM
Oops my bad.  try this (https://archive.org/details/animalfarm00orwe_0).

I was fortunate enough to go to a high school that had this as part of the curriculum.  I remember we spent two weeks in lectures / discussions.  Had an essay exam that was 20% of the grade.

I went to that same high school.  :) No more like that anymore, I don't suppose.
Title: Re: COVID19
Post by: Hestecrefter on July 20, 2020, 10:56:42 PM
A lot of truth to that Motorsarge.  A lot.

And sadly, I see it all around me.  Pisses me off, more mostly when I see it trying to enter my house.  People telling us we should let our son eat what he wants.  Should be allowed to go where he wants.  Etc, etc.  I was raised, probably as you were, in a generation where we ate what was on our plate, or we didn't eat at all.  That we needed to notify our parents of where we were going, if only to give them some comfort of mind as we would, more than not, be somewhere else playing around rather than at the town park. 

But, there was that structure for kids to check themselves against that is sorely missing now.  The "measuring stick" for them to use, even if they don't always agree with it.  I know I hated that measuring stick more than I admit.  But, it was at least there. 

And I think too many of today's youth are to damn far gone to even have a clue to what we are talking about.

It sounds like we had the same parents and communities.  Maybe I just found a brother I did not know I had  :)
Title: Re: COVID19
Post by: JoeLP on July 23, 2020, 06:53:29 AM
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Title: Re: COVID19
Post by: MotorSarge on July 23, 2020, 08:28:52 AM
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I put my mask on before replying Mr. Joe :D
We will prevail...but the endgame is unknown...we just got to be positive though all the negative.
I'm still getting ready to traverse to PI...it may be awhile but every world calamity comes to an end sometime 8).
Title: Re: COVID19
Post by: JoeLP on July 23, 2020, 10:13:28 AM
I put my mask on before replying Mr. Joe :D
We will prevail...but the endgame is unknown...we just got to be positive though all the negative.
I'm still getting ready to traverse to PI...it may be awhile but every world calamity comes to an end sometime 8).
I hear you.  This was more about the hysteria over what isn't.  Even if we reach the same level of deaths as the flu does pretty much yearly, was it really that bad?  We actually have vaccines that are given every year for the flu.  And that many still die.  There is no vaccine for this covid19, and it might reach the same level as flu deaths?  And that is if you believe that all the deaths being blamed on covid19 are actually related to it.  Every day more and more stories of deaths that had nothing to do with covid19 are being blamed on it. 

Is covid19 harmful?  Sure.  Is it as harmful as the flu?  When all is said and done, I doubt anyone educated on the matter will believe that.  Just imagine if we prepared for covid19 like we do for the flu each year with vaccines before it came.  How many less dead would we have?  How many stupid governors would have thrown covid19 infected people into nursing homes?  I'm just not that scared of it.  99.9% survival rate.  Just doesn't worry me. 

Again, the "infected rates are going up"(or at least it's what they are claiming) while the death rates are dropping(despite god knows how many deaths are being blamed on it that have nothing to do with it).  Every day more and more comes out to show that it was never as bad as it was made out to be. 
Title: Re: COVID19
Post by: JoeLP on July 26, 2020, 05:48:03 AM
Covid19 a "Once-in-a-century" data fiasco?
https://fee.org/articles/john-ioannidis-warned-covid-19-could-be-a-once-in-a-century-data-fiasco-he-was-right/?fbclid=IwAR3m0lcaSO_LMGt21xgTAHKGBRQck7W4B4zgEc5jd7hXhf8js_lEInwSdxQ (https://fee.org/articles/john-ioannidis-warned-covid-19-could-be-a-once-in-a-century-data-fiasco-he-was-right/?fbclid=IwAR3m0lcaSO_LMGt21xgTAHKGBRQck7W4B4zgEc5jd7hXhf8js_lEInwSdxQ)

More deaths that have nothing to do with covid19 being labeled as death by covid19.

https://www.theblaze.com/news/florida-inaccurate-coronavirus-death-reporting?utm_content=bufferc30b8&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=fb-glennbeck&fbclid=IwAR34BNOVUJixoZ6PLOevCzn_wPVwoxQT9MYxhEHYuriWUuGY-w0n0Oig2XU (https://www.theblaze.com/news/florida-inaccurate-coronavirus-death-reporting?utm_content=bufferc30b8&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=fb-glennbeck&fbclid=IwAR34BNOVUJixoZ6PLOevCzn_wPVwoxQT9MYxhEHYuriWUuGY-w0n0Oig2XU)

Cases are soaring, deaths are falling, despite not all deaths actually belonging to covid19.  Yeah, broken record.  I get it.  Yet so many seem to miss something so easily viewable.  It's like the "programmed idiots" who are on a motorcycle with no helmet, but they sure as hell made sure they have their masks on.  LOL  Laughable really.

(https://external.fceb1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/safe_image.php?d=AQB5rnEC41Bpm0gK&w=584&h=329&url=https%3A%2F%2Fi0.wp.com%2Fwww.powerlineblog.com%2Fed-assets%2F2020%2F07%2FScreen-Shot-2020-07-14-at-11.35.48-AM.png%3Fw%3D1176%26ssl%3D1&_nc_hash=AQCs4yxTUO2GMnLO)
Title: Re: COVID19
Post by: MotorSarge on July 26, 2020, 11:09:26 PM
Covid19 a "Once-in-a-century" data fiasco?
https://fee.org/articles/john-ioannidis-warned-covid-19-could-be-a-once-in-a-century-data-fiasco-he-was-right/?fbclid=IwAR3m0lcaSO_LMGt21xgTAHKGBRQck7W4B4zgEc5jd7hXhf8js_lEInwSdxQ (https://fee.org/articles/john-ioannidis-warned-covid-19-could-be-a-once-in-a-century-data-fiasco-he-was-right/?fbclid=IwAR3m0lcaSO_LMGt21xgTAHKGBRQck7W4B4zgEc5jd7hXhf8js_lEInwSdxQ)

More deaths that have nothing to do with covid19 being labeled as death by covid19.

https://www.theblaze.com/news/florida-inaccurate-coronavirus-death-reporting?utm_content=bufferc30b8&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=fb-glennbeck&fbclid=IwAR34BNOVUJixoZ6PLOevCzn_wPVwoxQT9MYxhEHYuriWUuGY-w0n0Oig2XU (https://www.theblaze.com/news/florida-inaccurate-coronavirus-death-reporting?utm_content=bufferc30b8&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=fb-glennbeck&fbclid=IwAR34BNOVUJixoZ6PLOevCzn_wPVwoxQT9MYxhEHYuriWUuGY-w0n0Oig2XU)

Cases are soaring, deaths are falling, despite not all deaths actually belonging to covid19.  Yeah, broken record.  I get it.  Yet so many seem to miss something so easily viewable.  It's like the "programmed idiots" who are on a motorcycle with no helmet, but they sure as hell made sure they have their masks on.  LOL  Laughable really.

(https://external.fceb1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/safe_image.php?d=AQB5rnEC41Bpm0gK&w=584&h=329&url=https%3A%2F%2Fi0.wp.com%2Fwww.powerlineblog.com%2Fed-assets%2F2020%2F07%2FScreen-Shot-2020-07-14-at-11.35.48-AM.png%3Fw%3D1176%26ssl%3D1&_nc_hash=AQCs4yxTUO2GMnLO)

Lol Joe.....everytime I see the CNN logo I feel I need to have my tonsils removed again & take another hit off the ol either mask :D
At one time they used to actually report news :o
Title: Re: COVID19
Post by: JoeLP on July 27, 2020, 07:56:49 AM
Lol Joe.....everytime I see the CNN logo I feel I need to have my tonsils removed again & take another hit off the ol either mask :D
At one time they used to actually report news :o
It's been 2 decades since they regularly reported news.  Over a decade since they've been honestly reporting news.  They are a damn joke at every level.  A propaganda agency purely.  All the cable news agencies are such now for the most part.  Fox at least does some news without slander or slanting.  But even they are becoming more and more what CNN has been for a decade.  MSNBC is leading CNN in the propaganda BS. 
Fee and other sights are what i depend on now to "see between the lies/slants" that you get from cable news.  But yeah, CNN went from legit news channel 30+ years ago to an absolute joke these days.  From the top of that organization to the bottom.