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Offline coutts00

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Hey Guys,

Anyone know where I can get a 4000 - 6000 sqm building that faces directly onto water. I will also need about 100 employees for 2 years. I am finalizing negotiations in the coming weeks with the Indonesian Army for 2 large hovercraft, I dropped my previous boss, he is a numb skull and went on alone. I have the designer, just need somewhere to build and of course access to a qualified workforce.

Each of these craft will be 18 meters on the beam and 36 meters long, they will carry 20 - 30 tonnes of rice or whatever is required containers, vehicles, dozers etc. And Captain Ron better watch out, we\'ll do sea trials near his boat, but alas we don\'t make a wake, so I can\'t swamp him, maybe if I point the fans at his sails, he can be cruising for a while.

Wayne
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Re: Large warehouse on Water Foreshore required to build to Hovercraft
« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2009, 02:42:17 PM »
I am not an expert and don\'t have specific information for you, but have you checked the Subic Bay Freeport Zone.  There may be some of the old Navy buildings there that are usable for you and the area should a good source of skilled labor.  Just an idea, good luck with the venture.

Scames

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Re: Large warehouse on Water Foreshore required to build to Hovercraft
« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2009, 03:33:12 PM »
Also check out both Cebu City (south shore redevelopement - I think that\'s what it\'s called) and also Toledo on Cebu\'s west coast......labour rates should be lower in Toledo too

I\'ll keep my eyes and ears open

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Re: Large warehouse on Water Foreshore required to build to Hovercraft
« Reply #3 on: January 15, 2009, 10:35:22 PM »
Dave,

We might fly her by your little town on the way for the delivery run to Jakarta if we get the contract, if you hoist ur spinnaker and well blow you some air for the fastest 30 second ride of your life. Otherwise I\'ll just take you out for the sea trials. I looked around Cebu on Google Earth, could not see any suitable size buildings on the foreshore.

Also if any of you guys have brother in laws or sister in laws for that matter or other family who are unemployed Engineers, I need people who know how to use 3d Modeling software in the hydraulic, electrical and mechanical fields. That is assuming I get the contract. The client is flying me to some warm Jakarta weather on his dime for a discussion, when the customer wants to spend his own money he must be serious. Luckily we have a 6 month design phase before we start construction to find a place, BUT once we start rolling, its 2 10 hr shifts 7 days a week, we will house the staff on site if they have to come from far away, company canteen etc and on site nurse, we might even allow family\'s to come as well and offer the nurse for the families etc.

I am a nice guy.

Wayne
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Re: Large warehouse on Water Foreshore required to build to Hovercraft
« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2009, 10:24:58 AM »
Here on the Negros Island, you might try this guy and see what info he has? He\'s a large wooden sail boat builder.

http//:www.tongo-sail-inn.netfirms.com   email tongasailinn@hotmail.com His name is nilgel (might be spelled wrong?), and a super cool guy!

Do you really need a \"building\"? Or a large covered area, (100m long), with a storage building? Might be something to think about in building if, you can\'t find the 1st cabin you want at a price your willing to pay? Renting land for a few years might work?
B-Ray


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Re: Large warehouse on Water Foreshore required to build to Hovercraft
« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2009, 10:43:10 AM »
Take a trip to subic everything you need is there infrastructure is good looks just like a town in America good security many warehouses used by the US navy are sitting empty some with overhead cranes

Also Duty free port so any material imports are duty free as long as they are used in construction of your boats for export

There is a large work force available Korea is building a large ship building factory there

Also check with the Subic Authority you should be able to get tax breaks and incentives for starting a company there

Good luck on your venture


Tom


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Re: Large warehouse on Water Foreshore required to build to Hovercraft
« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2009, 11:16:02 AM »
Take a trip to subic everything you need is there infrastructure is good looks just like a town in America good security many warehouses used by the US navy are sitting empty some with overhead cranes

Also Duty free port so any material imports are duty free as long as they are used in construction of your boats for export

There is a large work force available Korea is building a large ship building factory there

Also check with the Subic Authority you should be able to get tax breaks and incentives for starting a company there

Good luck on your venture


Tom



That was my first thought, Subic seems to be the obvious place, but maybe more expensive than elsewhere.

Colin

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Re: Large warehouse on Water Foreshore required to build to Hovercraft
« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2009, 11:42:57 AM »
Just some general information. Indonesia has had a \"fiskal tax\" of 1 million rupiah for years. This year as of Jan. 1, the government in it infinate wisdom decided that anyone leaving the country without having a tax ID must pay 2.5 million rupiah. That\'s about $225 dollars at todays exchange rate. This is every time you fly out of the country. Just another of the bizzar things happening here in this country. For the last 6 months of 2008 there was a dry up of booze in the country. It was kept sitting in containers on the dock for months. Many foreigners who planned to spend New Years in Indonesia (Bali mostly) canceled their RSVPs. Cost the country millions of dollars. The government also passed a new porno law that no one quite understands. This after a year long publicity campaign to promote tourism. Many of the Dutch who come every year canceled. More millions lost. Bali has about 1/2 the tourist it used to have. Anyone see why I\'m moving to the Philippines next month? You will also learn that a contract is never quite finished. Even after it is all signed and finalized it is quite common to have the details change. Good luck with your project.
Vaughn

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Re: Large warehouse on Water Foreshore required to build to Hovercraft
« Reply #8 on: January 16, 2009, 12:37:25 PM »
Get an Engineering Change Order clause written into the contract, specifying any changes to materials or processes are agreed in writing (along with cost differentials).

Had a 3 year career at Delco Electronics managed the BOM-ECO process, that was a company who could make a silk purse out of a sow\'s ear.......but at a price

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Re: Large warehouse on Water Foreshore required to build to Hovercraft
« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2009, 12:41:07 PM »
Thanks everyone I appreciate it all, we have been looking at Batangas as a potential location, leasing some land, dropping 40 ft containers on it and using them as the office and officers ward room, otherwise the site will be a dry site. I have been in contact with the Philippine trade consul here in Sydney, told them some of the plans, they did not seem to take me seriously and then said I should have it built by Aboitiz. Now I am a largely hater of large Philippine Families i.e. the ones with all of the money and I don\'t want to add to their coffers if I can help it.

As much as I can appreciate the benefits of Subic I am also looking at taking a hectare laying down a concrete pad and building temp buildings from there that could be moved to a different site at a later time if necessary. The idea of Subic leads me to think I will be paying graft for years, this is a lean and mean operation. But of course it will also save me from having to provide housing for workers, its a plus and minus option.

So many things to think about, engines at 125,000 each and thats not php its usd. Getting sheet marine aluminum and square marine tube, finding fantastic aluminum welders, composite fiberglass people with no less than five yrs experience and supervisors I don\'t have to bribe to do work other than their salaries. People who are looking after my interests and not their own.

I have not been keeping track, can someone fill me in on the relationship between the Philippines and Indonesia, is it good, or could it do with a shot in the arm. This could have some political benefit for someone if the Phils builds craft for the Indo Army.

Wayne
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Re: Large warehouse on Water Foreshore required to build to Hovercraft
« Reply #10 on: January 16, 2009, 03:10:07 PM »
I can only tell you this. There are several boat yards here in Jakarta and throughout Indonesia that supply fiberglass boats to the coast guard and navy. My ex-wife\'s uncle is a marine architect who studied and is certified in England. He has a yard here in Jakarta and builds quite large fishing and transport vessels. That is not to say the government does not outsource projects. I never hear of or read in the paper any conflict between Indonesia and RP.
Vaughn

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Re: Large warehouse on Water Foreshore required to build to Hovercraft
« Reply #11 on: January 16, 2009, 11:06:17 PM »
Vaughn,

If you can before your departure, can you contact him and give him my email couttsw@cyberverse.com, I am interested to see if he could handle construction of a craft with a 13 meter beam and 26 meter length. It needs to all be done inside and in temp and humidity controlled environment. We will be doin a lot of Aluminum welding and composite sandwich construction using core from Diab in the US. We will be using a promoted Vinyl Ester Resin of Lloyds Register Compliance. One of the reasons I am looking to Phils is the low labor costs, Construction of this craft in Australia is 1.5 mil for labor and in Phils its 500k, quite a saving.

Wayne
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Re: Large warehouse on Water Foreshore required to build to Hovercraft
« Reply #12 on: January 17, 2009, 10:21:11 AM »
Wayne I wish I could help you with that but when I got divorced it seems I also devorced the family.  :) It was a bit messy and I\'ve had no contact with anyone in the family for years now. Just do a web search and I\'m sure there will be several yards pop up. I\'m down to 30 days here and then off to the Philippines. I do love the boats though. (sailboats)
Vaughn

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Re: Large warehouse on Water Foreshore required to build to Hovercraft
« Reply #13 on: January 20, 2009, 10:37:26 AM »
Have you looked at Batan island ? I use to work for Scat hovercrafts and they were built there. Cheap labour but only a boat ride to singapore. Much easier to ship materials, skilled workforce and less corruption. Crowd i worked for closed now but maybe a alternative place to build considering the technology you need to use.
russ