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Offline geno555

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Sun Protectors
« on: June 16, 2009, 01:54:11 PM »
Colin I don\'t know how I got to the Vicodin post but this is meant for you,

Thank you and I agree with your words, life is too short. I did listen to your concern one time when you mentioned the long rectangular window facing due east and how hot it might become, I had a way of corrected that I thought for my father has a really large glassed in back porch and the 2 am sun makes it hotter than heck in there so I installed what is called sun protectors on the whole window for him they fully open and close to the left all the way for the morning sun, the blades, well not like venetian blinds for this are vertical made of white like canvas material and can be closed all the way to stop all the sun or open part of the way. Works well.

so I made the mistake of thinking I could buy those here but so far no luck, but my architect  says its not a problem for in some of the larger bank buildings and even the us embassy they have what is called window shades cut to size for any window they only turn like from closed to open but at least i can stop all the sun or have a little come in.

I\'m still confused over the R-ratings when it comes to fiberglass insulation for above my ceilings, exactly how many inches thick i should purchase and even more confused by buddy Grizzi statement about the fiberboard, where does that go.?

I have order a giant reverse fan from a chicken house run by San Miguel; don\'t ask me why San Miguel raises chickens? but it is going to be hooked up by my electrician to a thermostat so it won’t run all the time but when it gets 90 degree it kicks on until ambient temperatures drops to 85.

I have no problems at all with the request for 4  110 outlets in the kitchen 4 in the living room one in the master bathroom with a GFD  in case i splash water in it, everything is going to be 220 for the fridge stove and my Marine Equipment,  I am trying to get photo bucket to get a clear copy of one of my contracts for materials I signed for, but Its rather hard to see, but I will try to post it as soon as possible so people can get an idea of how these things work.

My Architect is so good to me, he has 6 projects going on at one time now but manages everyday to come here in person, to my room to talk with me.

Yesterday he was building a small hotel for a Swiss gentlemen who is really nice but his wife, is something else, I mean she was watching the labors so close that she would yak yak them if they didn\'t quite get every ounce of cement out of the bag and go over and shake the bag into the turning mixer herself, the boys finally got tired of her for she would not even supply them with cold water telling them to bring their own.

Well i have a crew of 33 and they get feed at 10 a morning snack of juice, fruit something keni lau (sp)  raw herring squished with vinegar so it looks cook to me, I can eat a little if i put enough hot sauce on it... ;D and rice and at 3 another snack usually of 3 sandwiches of some type of behoan.(sp)

Well all 8 boys quit her yesterday my foreman  called the architect, he is such a good man, he told me if it was alright they begged him to let them work for me, he said don\'t worry about their labor that will come out of my pocket.

Yesterday they took my wife up on what will be the second floor they are getting ready to pour it today or tomorrow. I never saw her eyes so big when they brought her down, she said oh my it is so beautiful up there you can see the mountains on both sides of us, of course at ground level all i can see is coconut and banana trees.

I go to the VA on July 5th. There having an all day Marathon with some specialist they brought in from Saint Lukes, A pulmonary man, naturally, a cardiology vascular specialist , a new Male Psychiatrist, my last one said she thinks i would open up more to a man...wrong...an endocrinologist...and a urologist , and the worse of all an oncologist
Of course I know what they’re going  to tell me so I wasn’t going to waste our  money by wife love her, she has this mistaken idea, that I am somehow indestructible  and will live forever…heck for her I just might piss em all off and do it    ;D

Semper Fi

The Murf





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Re: Sun Protectors
« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2009, 09:37:18 AM »

Thank you and I agree with your words, life is too short. I did listen to your concern one time when you mentioned the long rectangular window facing due east and how hot it might become, I had a way of corrected that I thought for my father has a really large glassed in back porch and the 2 am sun makes it hotter than heck in there so I installed what is called sun protectors on the whole window for him they fully open and close to the left all the way for the morning sun, the blades, well not like venetian blinds for this are vertical made of white like canvas material and can be closed all the way to stop all the sun or open part of the way. Works well.

so I made the mistake of thinking I could buy those here but so far no luck, but my architect  says its not a problem for in some of the larger bank buildings and even the us embassy they have what is called window shades cut to size for any window they only turn like from closed to open but at least i can stop all the sun or have a little come in.

I\'m still confused over the R-ratings when it comes to fiberglass insulation for above my ceilings, exactly how many inches thick i should purchase and even more confused by buddy Grizzi statement about the fiberboard, where does that go.?

I have order a giant reverse fan from a chicken house run by San Miguel; don\'t ask me why San Miguel raises chickens? but it is going to be hooked up by my electrician to a thermostat so it won’t run all the time but when it gets 90 degree it kicks on until ambient temperatures drops to 85.


Hi Murf,

I am reasonably certain that I have seen the vertical type venetian blinds in buildings in Makati, so you should be able to buy them but maybe only in places like Manila or Cebu.

I don’t think there is a lot of point trying to do careful R-value calculation here when everything else is so hit and miss. I have checked the fibreglass insulation that Grizzi referred to at Citi hardware and it only comes in 25mm and 150mm thicknesses. The 150mm would be ideal, but may prove too expensive. The 25mm could be OK providing you also have other means of reducing the temperature. If, for example, you had ample ridge and eve vents to cause a good airflow under the hot roof material, and then place a curtain of the thin foil backed foam a few inches away to form an air channel. This is what I am considering at the moment, but it does depend on cost.

I assume you are planning to use your fan to extract hot air from the loft, but wondering if you could use Tom’s idea of mounting it horizontally in the ceiling to extract hot air from the house. If you mounted it above the stairs it could drag some of the hot air away from those windows. Just an idea.

I don’t see any use for fibreboard, it is very soft and would soak up water. The engineer we are planning to use is the son of the owner of a big hardware store and goes to Manila once a month as a buyer. He told us that there is now a new plastic type ceiling panel that looks good and are easy to keep clean.  I don’t know any more but will post when I find out.

Colin

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Re: Sun Protectors
« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2009, 02:14:33 PM »
Murf,

Here is what I wrote when talking about insulation:

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I used the aluminum barrier with the foam insulation in our current house, and it helps somewhat (even with a painted galvanized roof in place), but I know that keeping our ceilings a good distance from the roofing panels and adding that 200mm fiber insulation, along with venting the attic space should keep temps reasonable in the house.

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Murf here, i ops I have insisted on fiberglass installation  on the marine plywood above the ceilings, but where does this fiber board stuff go?

To which I assumed (yes, I know what happens when I assume... ;D) that they guys doing your construction had delivered some fiber board to your building site and you wanted to know what it was for. Thats why I posted this:

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Now, are you talking fiber board, particle board, or the fiber board that looks like compacted cardboard and its about 1/8\" thick?


So it was just a mistake of making an assumption on my part that caused you confusion....lol.  I actually only posted on the insulation information in Colins post.  Sorry for the confusion.

Colin,

I believe you were right about the insulation...150mm was the largest, but I will make sure when I get there in September on R&R.  I know that 150 would be way more than enough for the PI, and yes, it is expensive, but if it keeps the electric bills down, its going to have a nice payback.  8)
Greg & Almira  ;-)