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Offline bigrod

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SRRV Holders Working in Philippines
« on: August 29, 2014, 12:06:57 PM »
The following is from the BI Facebook page:

The Bureau of Immigration (BI) Board of Commissioners (BOC) issued Board Resolution No. EED-2014-01 last 19 August 2014. Said resolution provides that effective 01 September 2014, Special Retiree Resident Visa (SRRV) holders, who fail to secure Department of Labor and Employment (DOLE) issued Alien Employment Permit (AEP) prior to any employment shall be deemed in violation of Commonwealth Act No. 613, Section 37(a)(7) for being an alien who remains in the Philippines in violation of any limitation or condition under which he/she was admitted as a non-immigrant.

In lieu of deportation charges, SRRV holders violating CA 613, Section 37(a)(7) shall be assessed a P50,000.00 Immigration Certification fee.

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Re: SRRV Holders Working in Philippines
« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2014, 01:19:56 PM »
Oh man.  Glad I am not working or planning to work.  Although, apparently I have to do some work or at least make believe I am doing something instead of relaxing.
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Re: SRRV Holders Working in Philippines
« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2014, 01:31:35 PM »
Just relax Bud and enjoy your retirement, because if you appear or show to be working, you just might get yourself in deep Kim Chi (aka chit) with BI and or with the BIR!  ::)
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Re: SRRV Holders Working in Philippines
« Reply #3 on: August 29, 2014, 01:40:32 PM »
What? Appear to be? On my own house or property?  With no pay?
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Re: SRRV Holders Working in Philippines
« Reply #4 on: August 29, 2014, 01:52:38 PM »
You run errands for your g/f's business don't you and you have a live-in maid right?
They would just assume you are getting paid under the table in some shape or form! :o
« Last Edit: August 29, 2014, 02:15:12 PM by Art, just a re(tired) Fil/Am »
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Re: SRRV Holders Working in Philippines
« Reply #5 on: August 29, 2014, 02:28:27 PM »
agree, anything here belongs to gf or asawa
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Re: SRRV Holders Working in Philippines
« Reply #6 on: August 29, 2014, 03:32:24 PM »
The following is from the BI Facebook page:

The Bureau of Immigration (BI) Board of Commissioners (BOC) issued Board Resolution No. EED-2014-01 last 19 August 2014. Said resolution provides that effective 01 September 2014, Special Retiree Resident Visa (SRRV) holders, who fail to secure Department of Labor and Employment (DOLE) issued Alien Employment Permit (AEP) prior to any employment shall be deemed in violation of Commonwealth Act No. 613, Section 37(a)(7) for being an alien who remains in the Philippines in violation of any limitation or condition under which he/she was admitted as a non-immigrant.

In lieu of deportation charges, SRRV holders violating CA 613, Section 37(a)(7) shall be assessed a P50,000.00 Immigration Certification fee.

Chuck


I has always been my understanding that with my SRRV I could work, but only after getting a Alien Employment Permit. I was told that the Philippine Retirement Authority would assist me in getting that permit if I wanted to work. Concerning the services provided by the PRA to SRRV holders, please refer to line "e" below:

"3. Assistance in Obtaining Basic Government Documents/Requirements

"Our office provides you the assistance in obtaining basic government documents you may need during your stay. These include, but not limited to securing the following:

a. National Bureau of Investigation (NBI) Clearance
b. Driver's License and Motor Vehicle Registration
c. Philippine Tax Exemption
d. Medical Clearance
e. Alien Employment Permit (AEP)"

This appears on this web page: http://www.pra.gov.ph/main/retiree_services?page=1

I suppose that AEPs will not be granted for working in certain professions, for example, for working as an architect.

It appears that they are treating SRRV holders better by only fining them, rather than deporting them.

Benjamin Franklin wrote: "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."

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Re: SRRV Holders Working in Philippines
« Reply #7 on: August 29, 2014, 03:41:45 PM »
You can work in the Philippines as long you have a work permit since you are a SRRV holder, but to be an architect here I believe you need to be legally licensed in the Philippines!

https://www.google.com/search?q=Philippines+architect+licensing+board+requirments&gws_rd=ssl
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Re: SRRV Holders Working in Philippines
« Reply #8 on: August 29, 2014, 04:15:34 PM »
Art, thats probably true about the license, my commercial pilots license is not recognized here
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Re: SRRV Holders Working in Philippines
« Reply #9 on: August 29, 2014, 08:58:12 PM »
An SRRV holder can work but yes they still need to have a permit to work which is supposed to be simple to get when the person has an SRRV which allows them to work.

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http://tinyurl.com/lvplm7b
You can work here…
Upon issuance of the Alien Employment Permit (AEP), to which PRA
can assist you!

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Re: SRRV Holders Working in Philippines
« Reply #10 on: August 30, 2014, 01:56:25 AM »
You run errands for your g/f's business don't you and you have a live-in maid right?
They would just assume you are getting paid under the table in some shape or form! :o


Art, you know, that is like saying that someone could misconstrue you as a possible paid under the table driver in some shape or form since you chauffer your wife to do her weekly grocery shopping.  Oh yeah, that is right.  Your household also has domestic help.  I can easily solve my problem.  When I make my weekly trip to the building next door to the office building, when I stop at the office building, as I leave to continue on to my intended destination, I will no longer be carrying any transactions not belonging to me which need to be conducted at that destination next door and down below.  That will pretty much eliminate so called errands that I do, as far as I know.  In reference to the Kasambahay at the residence (that is the residence not owned by me) where I live, well, I am not the registered household employer. Furthermore, I pick up behind myself and even do a lot of other things instead of just dropping them and saying to myself, “Well, I will just let the maid do it.” 

I had also forgotten to tell you Art.  You have referred to my girlfriend several times since last year to which I had quit acknowledging her existence. The fact is, I no longer have a girlfriend and had not got around to telling you yet.

I was checking over this faq sheet pertaining to the AEP and here is the link.
http://www.ble.dole.gov.ph/faq%20on%20aep.pdf
On question 2 (Who are the foreign nationals required to apply for AEP?)
Answer is:  All foreign nationals who intend to engage in gainful employment in the Philippines.
Guess that blows me out of the water.

Question 5 (What are the requirements of filing application for an AEP?)
Answer down on A (Documentary requirements) one of them is: b. Contract of Employment.
Guess this one blows me out of the water too.

So, if I applied for an AEP in order to cover my azz because someone would supposedly just assume I am taking payoff under the table, I would then have to lie about intending to engage in gainful employment and submit a falsified document which all comes under #11. (What are grounds for denial of an AEP?) showing in the first part that:
 An  application  for  AEP  may  be  denied  for misrepresentation of facts in the application; submission of falsified  documents;  the  foreign  national  has  a  derogatory record;  or  availability  of  a  Filipino  who  is  competent, able and willing to do the job intended for the foreign national.

Well, looks like I won’t be able to go back up to #5 (What are the requirements of filing application for an AEP?) and pay the fees for the initial year and and additional years to cover up to 5 years after application stated below in B.
Permit fee is P8,000 for one year validity or fraction thereof  plus   P3,000.00  for  every  additional  year  of validity or a fraction thereof, which shall not exceed five years, to be paid upon submission of application.

And in closing, coughing up another ₱20k really breaks my heart.

I guess if some nonsense goes down over this which makes it rough on me, then they might as well throw my butt out of the country since even though I try and keep a low profile, I am not about to go underground.
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Re: SRRV Holders Working in Philippines
« Reply #11 on: August 30, 2014, 04:58:50 AM »
Work and gainful employment are the issues here. I have an anomalous situation where I will work for the education department. I have told them they cannot afford my western fees. I would do the work for nothing except then it would be valued at the same price. SO I decided they will pay what they normally pay a consultant.  All this money will be lodged into a bank fund which will be used to grant scholarships (or assist schools). This will be administered by an independent body. In this way I am not seen as in 'gainful employment' and do not need a work permit. (I THINK :-\).

Anyone got advice on this? I will not be replacing any existing Filipino employment as it is a very specialist area.

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Re: SRRV Holders Working in Philippines
« Reply #12 on: August 30, 2014, 10:14:21 AM »
OK Bud,
Now I know! So, NO g/f and NO job! Now that's the way to relax,
except for looking after yourself as a Bachelor, unless you still have
your live-out maid around! Anyway, enjoy your retirement!  ;)
« Last Edit: August 30, 2014, 10:29:23 AM by Art, just a re(tired) Fil/Am »
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Re: SRRV Holders Working in Philippines
« Reply #13 on: August 30, 2014, 10:46:59 AM »
OK Bud,
Now I know! So, NO g/f and NO job! Now that's the way to relax,
except for looking after yourself as a Bachelor, unless you still have
your live-out maid around! Anyway, enjoy your retirement!  ;)

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Re: SRRV Holders Working in Philippines
« Reply #14 on: August 30, 2014, 12:37:37 PM »
I am not about to go underground. I second that notion Bud underground is not a fun lace to be