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Re: COVID19
« Reply #15 on: July 16, 2020, 04:11:40 AM »
MotorSarge,
As to what happens when the vaccine comes out...I think a lot of it will depend on who and where it is created.  If in the USA, then it'll be mass produced there and those in the USA will get it long before someone like us living here in the Philippines will get it.  Long being relative.  I think inside a year, most countries, and a vast majority of the first world countries will be getting it and dispersing it.

Then as to who get's it first in each country will depend greatly on the country.  Say Canada would probably be able to set it up so those who need it most get it first as they have a system that can handle it and make that work.  But a country like Sudan or Iran or what have you...it'll be much more political and wouldn't surprise me a  bit if it's the rich and powerful that get if first. 

All this said, I do see a very real possibility that if a first world country develops it first, they'll share their discovery with other countries if they want to foot the bill of setting up all the required production facilities to create the vaccine, or be willing to do something to help get it to those countries quicker on a budget price.

I echo you Joe ;D
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Re: COVID19
« Reply #16 on: July 16, 2020, 01:57:25 PM »
« Last Edit: July 16, 2020, 03:29:25 PM by JoeLP »
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Re: COVID19
« Reply #17 on: July 16, 2020, 10:27:23 PM »
‘A Year's Worth of Suicide Attempts in Four Weeks’: The Unintended Consequences of COVID-19 Lockdowns

https://fee.org/articles/a-years-worth-of-suicide-attempts-in-four-weeks-the-unintended-consequences-of-covid-19-lockdowns/?fbclid=IwAR3arrXI8-0TlB6NzxgcrvsOU4ZaIqxrvSFGmUbqLSxlAchoRlCS4iWUpRo

3 States Account for 42 Percent of All COVID-19 Deaths in America. Why?

https://fee.org/articles/3-states-account-for-42-percent-of-all-covid-19-deaths-in-america-why/

After clicking the link I decided not to.
But as for 3 leading total death states....NY, NJ, Mass and lets add #4&5 while were at it ....Cali & Il!
All led by the same type of incompetent leaders ???.
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Re: COVID19
« Reply #18 on: July 17, 2020, 04:30:34 AM »

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« Reply #19 on: July 17, 2020, 08:32:46 AM »
How a False Hydroxychloroquine Narrative Was Created
Good to see a nicely written out and to some point researched article on hydroxychloroquine.  I think most of us with our heads not shoved up our rear ends can sit back and look at the facts and see that hydroxychloroquine isn't evil, bad or the issue.  It's been around for decades and decades.  If a drug is bad, it would have been pulled off the shelves decades ago.  It's not killing anyone, no matter how many democrats you hear on tv saying it's a deadly drug.  The covid19 is killing people, and often they are too far gone to save.  Blaming their deaths on hydroxychloroquine is as dumb as someone dying from a car accident but because they are coughing as they are dying it's blamed on covid19 despite no test being done to prove it.  Fools pushing an agenda.
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« Reply #20 on: July 18, 2020, 03:07:32 PM »
Oklahoma family says the government is lying about their grandpa's death: He 'didn't die from COVID'.
https://www.theblaze.com/news/oklahoma-family-government-lying-covid-death?utm_content=buffere6a9f&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=fb-glennbeck&fbclid=IwAR3uo_0ameYafuX2t7semJfn3gB_lLwerha8yP1p3nY1JEhi79Es_suahUc

Florida man in his 20s listed among COVID-19 fatalities — but health officer says he died in motorcycle crash
https://www.theblaze.com/news/florida-man-in-his-20s-listed-among-covid-19-fatalities-but-health-officer-says-he-died-in-motorcycle-crash?utm_content=buffercacb1&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=fb-theblaze&fbclid=IwAR3IomgfvtCUdHsY5NFwRJtiJCOqhguEVBrdUcLWIiabzqnkyKvPxqOAEx0

How many other non virus related deaths are being blamed on covid19?  10?  100?  1000?  This is as corrupt as all the damn Dem governors who threw infected people into nursing homes and killed so many.  Or the same idiots(Dems/Liberals) telling the police to stand down while buildings are burning and being looted. 

The coming election will be interesting to witness.  America is no longer going to return to what was.  Which way is it going to go?
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« Reply #21 on: July 19, 2020, 02:53:35 AM »
Oklahoma family says the government is lying about their grandpa's death: He 'didn't die from COVID'.
https://www.theblaze.com/news/oklahoma-family-government-lying-covid-death?utm_content=buffere6a9f&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=fb-glennbeck&fbclid=IwAR3uo_0ameYafuX2t7semJfn3gB_lLwerha8yP1p3nY1JEhi79Es_suahUc

Florida man in his 20s listed among COVID-19 fatalities — but health officer says he died in motorcycle crash
https://www.theblaze.com/news/florida-man-in-his-20s-listed-among-covid-19-fatalities-but-health-officer-says-he-died-in-motorcycle-crash?utm_content=buffercacb1&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=fb-theblaze&fbclid=IwAR3IomgfvtCUdHsY5NFwRJtiJCOqhguEVBrdUcLWIiabzqnkyKvPxqOAEx0

How many other non virus related deaths are being blamed on covid19?  10?  100?  1000?  This is as corrupt as all the damn Dem governors who threw infected people into nursing homes and killed so many.  Or the same idiots(Dems/Liberals) telling the police to stand down while buildings are burning and being looted. 

The coming election will be interesting to witness.  America is no longer going to return to what was.  Which way is it going to go?

Joe, I'm in my late 50s and have four brothers older than me in there 60s and I agree with you 100%. I have been noticing for quite some time now the change in generations that is bringing this on. So I am attaching/adding something I found the other day that just puts my thoughts into words and saved this and gave it the Title of Beyond The Baby Boomers. Once again I did not write this but it is exactly how I would articulate my thoughts.

Beyond the Baby Boomers

The failure of the parents to impose rules on their children has led to a generation of infantilized dependent adults for whom the only tolerable limits are their own self-made safe spaces, according to sociologist Frank Furedi. In his book Why Borders Matter, the emeritus professor from the University of Kent at Canterbury said that the age group sometimes referred to as the snowflake generation, is the result of three to four generations of parents who failed their responsibility to convey past values on to their children. ‘Children develop by reacting against these codes. It is a character-forming and creative process essential to achieving self-sufficiency and intellectual independence. Growing up with this lack of boundaries has meant that young people are confused and have nothing to measure their own values or other standards against. As a result, millennial adult-juveniles are unable to listen to the opinions of others so that they can make their own judgments. Taught not to think for themselves, the Snowflake Generation respond negatively to claims of ‘racism’ or ‘fascism’ as did Pavlov’s dog. The scientist’s dog salivated each time he rang a bell to signal the hound’s food was on its way. The dog continued to salivate when the bell rang even though the food bowl stayed in the cupboard. The unthinking snowflake or zombie apocalypse generation salivate each time they hear them cry, ‘racist’ or ‘fascist’. Asked why they are clueless. Without moral and societal boundaries borders, snowflakes construct their own boundaries in the form of safe spaces in which they can distance themselves from the opinions of people with whom they disagree. This stokes identity politics said Furedi. The professor says, ‘The thing about identity (snowflake) politics is that every expression they use is actually a contradiction. They support diversity but identity politics is completely hostile to the diversity of opinions. So if you argue a narrative other than what they themselves hold dear, that is considered racist, insulting, or hate’. Failure to create standards and rules has also led to two other phenomena: a slowdown in reaching maturity and the separation of parents from adulthood’ when trying to be friends with their children. The whole development process is compromised. You end up in a situation where the transition from childhood to adolescence takes much longer if maturity happens at all. The professor, remembers a man wearing a T-shirt with the slogan ‘I’m done growing up; fathers who listen to the same music as their sons, copy their dialogue, watch the same infantile movies, and wear the same juvenile clothing. Mothers and daughters show roles reversed in which the daughter tells the mother what to wear. ‘There is almost this deliberate effort not to be the father or mother of the child, but their best friend, whom children do not need,’ he remarked. A September 2019 study found that British millennials were the least happy of all age groups, while another August 2019 survey found that nine out of ten British people between the ages of 16 and 29 said they felt they had their lives have no meaning and purpose.
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« Reply #22 on: July 19, 2020, 08:33:16 AM »
A lot of truth to that Motorsarge.  A lot.

And sadly, I see it all around me.  Pisses me off, more mostly when I see it trying to enter my house.  People telling us we should let our son eat what he wants.  Should be allowed to go where he wants.  Etc, etc.  I was raised, probably as you were, in a generation where we ate what was on our plate, or we didn't eat at all.  That we needed to notify our parents of where we were going, if only to give them some comfort of mind as we would, more than not, be somewhere else playing around rather than at the town park. 

But, there was that structure for kids to check themselves against that is sorely missing now.  The "measuring stick" for them to use, even if they don't always agree with it.  I know I hated that measuring stick more than I admit.  But, it was at least there. 

And I think too many of today's youth are to damn far gone to even have a clue to what we are talking about.
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« Reply #23 on: July 19, 2020, 10:21:51 AM »
I have been noticing for quite some time now the change in generations that is bringing this on.

And sadly, I see it all around me.  Pisses me off

I am beginning to think that the change y'all are describing is deliberate.  Engineered.

Either on of you ever read Animal Farm?

I look around me,  watch the news, and I am reminded of the "storm trooper" puppies described in that book.


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« Reply #24 on: July 19, 2020, 04:49:05 PM »
I am beginning to think that the change y'all are describing is deliberate.  Engineered.

Either on of you ever read Animal Farm?

I look around me,  watch the news, and I am reminded of the "storm trooper" puppies described in that book.
I have not read it, but I just bookmarked the link(thank you).   Will try and schedule some time to read it. 
p.s.  It looks like the link you shared is in indonesian.  I'll find an english copy of it.  Probably download it.
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« Reply #25 on: July 20, 2020, 04:54:42 AM »
It looks like the link you shared is in indonesian.

Oops my bad.  try this.

I was fortunate enough to go to a high school that had this as part of the curriculum.  I remember we spent two weeks in lectures / discussions.  Had an essay exam that was 20% of the grade.




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« Reply #26 on: July 20, 2020, 08:33:22 AM »
A lot of truth to that Motorsarge.  A lot.

And sadly, I see it all around me.  Pisses me off, more mostly when I see it trying to enter my house.  People telling us we should let our son eat what he wants.  Should be allowed to go where he wants.  Etc, etc.  I was raised, probably as you were, in a generation where we ate what was on our plate, or we didn't eat at all.  That we needed to notify our parents of where we were going, if only to give them some comfort of mind as we would, more than not, be somewhere else playing around rather than at the town park. 

But, there was that structure for kids to check themselves against that is sorely missing now.  The "measuring stick" for them to use, even if they don't always agree with it.  I know I hated that measuring stick more than I admit.  But, it was at least there. 

And I think too many of today's youth are to damn far gone to even have a clue to what we are talking about.

I cant find the Thumps Up ...but yep.
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« Reply #27 on: July 20, 2020, 08:38:24 AM »
I am beginning to think that the change y'all are describing is deliberate.  Engineered.

Either on of you ever read Animal Farm?

I look around me,  watch the news, and I am reminded of the "storm trooper" puppies described in that book.

I have not LIS...can I find it online?...or is it available in hardback? If hardback I'll check it out at my local library. I know I am dating myself but I still like literature, facts and life in hard copy reading material.
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« Reply #28 on: July 20, 2020, 08:45:41 AM »
Oops my bad.  try this.

I was fortunate enough to go to a high school that had this as part of the curriculum.  I remember we spent two weeks in lectures / discussions.  Had an essay exam that was 20% of the grade.

Disregard...I opened the link and recognized one of the covers as an assignment read for my son's early college last year.  I will read it this week and give you my follow up.

Thank you.
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« Reply #29 on: July 20, 2020, 10:51:19 PM »
Oops my bad.  try this.

I was fortunate enough to go to a high school that had this as part of the curriculum.  I remember we spent two weeks in lectures / discussions.  Had an essay exam that was 20% of the grade.

I went to that same high school.  :) No more like that anymore, I don't suppose.