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« on: August 12, 2021, 09:14:57 PM »
I know this has been mentioned before but here are your forum Administrators:

Big Rod
D Williams
Gerlie
Rufus
Steve & Myrlita

Gerlie rarely posts but she is instrumental in handling the business end of the forum as liason between us and the hosting service making sure the forum is updated regularly and paying the bills.
These other gentlemen run the day to day moderation and act as referees on occasion.
You'll notice that I am not listed as a Moderator nor Admin. I'm simply a Senior Member. Questions about how the forum is run should be directed to the people listed above.

The latest round of conflict has left it's mark on me. I'll check in when I can and post when I feel the urge. I continue to monitor posts so I can stay in touch with all of you and sometimes to research questions for people outside of the forum. Still kicking, sipping on some good Kentucky bourbon from time to time, and as always a friend to all of you. Take care and be nice to each other

Jack
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« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2021, 08:03:50 PM »
Thank you Jack. Enjoy the bourbon.
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« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2021, 09:53:43 PM »
Thank you Jack. Enjoy the bourbon.

This should do nicely  8)
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« Reply #3 on: August 29, 2021, 09:26:16 AM »
Ouch.... this may get my membership revoked or question unposted. Jack...Since yer just a seasoned Senior Member and not anyone with any website financial details...etc....I've got a question at the end....so send to those hard working ADMINS.

I received a personal email a few days back from a LITP member requesting monetary help since they are down in the rice field.
I'm quite sure other members may have received the same likewise.
Would that member please show us the LITP members of your inadequacies and maybe some of us can support your hardship sine you are an ADNIN member?

Question: Are the LITP ADMINS going to project a transparent cost of the annual website fees, dues owed and dues paid annually?

can donate to an official cause. know this has been mentioned before but here are your forum Administrators:

Big Rod
D Williams
Gerlie
Rufus
Steve & Myrlita

Gerlie rarely posts but she is instrumental in handling the business end of the forum as liason between us and the hosting service making sure the forum is updated regularly and paying the bills.
These other gentlemen run the day to day moderation and act as referees on occasion.
You'll notice that I am not listed as a Moderator nor Admin. I'm simply a Senior Member. Questions about how the forum is run should be directed to the people listed above.

The latest round of conflict has left it's mark on me. I'll check in when I can and post when I feel the urge. I continue to monitor posts so I can stay in touch with all of you and sometimes to research questions for people outside of the forum. Still kicking, sipping on some good Kentucky bourbon from time to time, and as always a friend to all of you. Take care and be nice to each other

Jack
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« Reply #4 on: August 29, 2021, 03:53:44 PM »
Ouch.... this may get my membership revoked or question unposted. Jack...Since yer just a seasoned Senior Member and not anyone with any website financial details...etc....I've got a question at the end....so send to those hard working ADMINS.

I received a personal email a few days back from a LITP member requesting monetary help since they are down in the rice field.
I'm quite sure other members may have received the same likewise.
Would that member please show us the LITP members of your inadequacies and maybe some of us can support your hardship sine you are an ADNIN member?

Question: Are the LITP ADMINS going to project a transparent cost of the annual website fees, dues owed and dues paid annually?

If you need info concerning the needs/reason the request was made ask the individual by PM. Annual website fee is approx php 17K.  The forum has no dues! The donation button is functional at all times and members can donate anytime, so we do not have to scramble in Jun-Jul to get the funds together!

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« Reply #5 on: August 29, 2021, 08:12:42 PM »
If you need info concerning the needs/reason the request was made ask the individual by PM. Annual website fee is approx php 17K.  The forum has no dues! The donation button is functional at all times and members can donate anytime, so we do not have to scramble in Jun-Jul to get the funds together!

Chuck
Bigrod,
I have no problem with the current setup.  I think, for now, it's the right way to go. 
That said, I'd LOVE for there to be more transparency.  Maybe one thread where everything a donation is made, it is shown on that thread.  I can see very easily some being worried that the person in charge of the money somehow end up losing some of it.  So, having a thread where every time someone donates a 1000 php being shown and added to previous donations would be a good thing to let everyone know how much has been raised and at the same time, while leaving the donors anonymous, would show them recognition that the money has been received and added to the total amount donated.  I can be checked at any time by anyone on the site. 
I just have a gut feeling that this could lead to more donations throughout the year.  Keep the "June/July" rushes from being the "hassle" that they seem to be now.
Just a thought.
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« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2021, 10:42:08 AM »
Bigrod,

It's not about the setup....its about the situation at hand of someone controlling the memberships monetary funds (you just don't end up losing some of it) when they are in dire straits and emailing/requesting members for donations of monies needing to survive hard times. So since someone has stated knowledge of what has been the costs yearly to operate the LITP...I would suspect they also have knowledge of the monies donated for the year? Where is this recorded? We don't need a monthly or yearly tally by name and paid record.....break this this down into active membership dues to suffice the cost of operating the page annually.  In the eyes of the GOV/Public world this would have hints of Embezzlement all over it for such...... and last but not least maybe we need to incorporate a GOFUNDMEACCOUNT link for members in such need....I'll be the first to donate to such a cause.

Bigrod,
I have no problem with the current setup.  I think, for now, it's the right way to go. 
That said, I'd LOVE for there to be more transparency.  Maybe one thread where everything a donation is made, it is shown on that thread.  I can see very easily some being worried that the person in charge of the money somehow end up losing some of it.  So, having a thread where every time someone donates a 1000 php being shown and added to previous donations would be a good thing to let everyone know how much has been raised and at the same time, while leaving the donors anonymous, would show them recognition that the money has been received and added to the total amount donated.  I can be checked at any time by anyone on the site. 
I just have a gut feeling that this could lead to more donations throughout the year.  Keep the "June/July" rushes from being the "hassle" that they seem to be now.
Just a thought.
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« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2021, 11:30:38 AM »
Bigrod,

It's not about the setup....its about the situation at hand of someone controlling the memberships monetary funds (you just don't end up losing some of it) when they are in dire straits and emailing/requesting members for donations of monies needing to survive hard times. So since someone has stated knowledge of what has been the costs yearly to operate the LITP...I would suspect they also have knowledge of the monies donated for the year? Where is this recorded? We don't need a monthly or yearly tally by name and paid record.....break this this down into active membership dues to suffice the cost of operating the page annually.  In the eyes of the GOV/Public world this would have hints of Embezzlement all over it for such...... and last but not least maybe we need to incorporate a GOFUNDMEACCOUNT link for members in such need....I'll be the first to donate to such a cause.

To begin with as stated before there are not any membership dues! I personally do not propose that dues should be started.  Jack was provided with updates to the donations which he advised me of.  As far as I know no donation funds were lost! Are you insinuating funds were misappropriated or stolen? Members were advised by post where the donation amounts stood at periodically during the fund raising period, maybe you missed that! You can set up a GOFUNDMEACCOUNT for needy members if you so desire.  The Admins/Mods/etc are volunteers that have a life besides LITP. I would request from Gerlie that she post any donations received during the year so that members are aware of the status of donations.

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« Reply #8 on: August 30, 2021, 04:52:20 PM »
Bigrod,

It's not about the setup....its about the situation at hand of someone controlling the memberships monetary funds (you just don't end up losing some of it) when they are in dire straits and emailing/requesting members for donations of monies needing to survive hard times. So since someone has stated knowledge of what has been the costs yearly to operate the LITP...I would suspect they also have knowledge of the monies donated for the year? Where is this recorded? We don't need a monthly or yearly tally by name and paid record.....break this this down into active membership dues to suffice the cost of operating the page annually.  In the eyes of the GOV/Public world this would have hints of Embezzlement all over it for such...... and last but not least maybe we need to incorporate a GOFUNDMEACCOUNT link for members in such need....I'll be the first to donate to such a cause.
I think Bigrod already touched on some of this.  That said, I stand by the no membership fees.  Any time you get into trying to set something like that up it'll take more work and money spent and raise the costs of the site.  This site just isn't big enough to handle it.  As I previously stated, I think the current setup is the best one. 
All I was seeking was more accountability.  Did someone steal or lose any of the money donated?  I have no idea.  Maybe, maybe not, and as far as I'm concerned, if it happened, it was in the past, and it should stay there.  I'm more about setting up a system that pretty much demands accountability.  Something as simple as one thread on the site that was about nothing but the financial state of the site.  No one could post to it but those at the highest level of administrator.  Every time a donation is made it is listed.  Again, keep the names off.  That said, if someone in say October came across some extra money and wanted to donate 1000php, they would see that amount added pretty soon to that thread showing evidence that their payment did go through, and that it was now added to the "income account"(if you will) and there is evidence for all to see.  Again, accountability for everyone and peace of mind for those who donate.  It confirms to them that their donation was received and everyone sees the added amount to the "income total" on that thread.  Thus, adding peace of mind to those on here to enjoy the site and can see the money coming in and accounted for. 
Again, no names.  Just accountability.  Peace of mind. 
And yes, I understand that this isn't a fool proof setup.  If two people anonymously donate the same amount, and the person who is in charge of that shows only one being received, who'd know any different.  I get it.  But the above system would add more accountability than it has now.  And if someone donates 1500 or 500 php and it doesn't show, they'd have the right to start asking hard questions. 
Also, money donated to the site should be for the site, not the people on it.  If you feel that a member needs money, a "gofundme" page could do what you desire.  And it'd keep the whole page and the funding of it much cleaner.
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« Reply #9 on: August 31, 2021, 02:49:31 AM »
No money has been misplaced, stolen, reappropriated or otherwise gone unaccounted for. Every piso donated to the forum went to paying for the hosting service. I can say that with complete certainty. I saw all the receipts.

Joe made a good suggestion that we start a new sticky topic with an ongoing status of the forum funding. I see a lot of value in that if properly attended.

I got a PM too. I made a donation to my kapatid Gerlie, from her kuya Jack, just as I might do for a relative or old friend, on a case by case basis. I advised against posting a request on the forum as that is against the rules. But I must admit that I also stated that it was within her privileges as a member to send a PM to any other member, concerning any subject, privately. Not what I would do, but technically within the rules.

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« Reply #10 on: August 31, 2021, 07:38:04 AM »
Okay....I am now content on the confidence of the last 3 replies from you longevity members...research done & I don't need to elaborate. :)
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« Reply #11 on: August 31, 2021, 08:10:18 AM »
In regards to posting donations the name should be posted along with amount. This way the member knows his donation is accounted for.

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« Reply #12 on: August 31, 2021, 11:57:40 PM »
In regards to posting donations the name should be posted along with amount. This way the member knows his donation is accounted for.

Chuck

Here are copies of the receipts for donations received. I removed the email addresses due to concerns for privacy. Also attached is a copy of the receipt for the web hosting payment.
If anyone made a payment and it's not listed, please send me a copy of your receipt.
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« Reply #13 on: September 01, 2021, 04:38:38 AM »
Lol...great work.......But?......Thought you were getting out of this business??.....Yep... I understand...we can not ever let the LITPs die from lack of leadership... :)

Here are copies of the receipts for donations received. I removed the email addresses due to concerns for privacy. Also attached is a copy of the receipt for the web hosting payment.
If anyone made a payment and it's not listed, please send me a copy of your receipt.
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« Reply #14 on: September 01, 2021, 09:55:11 AM »
Lol...great work.......But?......Thought you were getting out of this business??...

But does this provide the info everyone needed? It was easier for me to provide
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